Turning Pro at 13

[dad4]

Anyone else willing to take their daughter away from school and college to become a pro at 16 and make $20k a year?

First, you need to assume your child is destined to make 500K per year in WNT endorsements.

I don't think the parents are doing all this because they think she's got a chance to be a Thorns bench player.

(They're still nuts. But it's Brazil nuts, not peanuts.)

 

[Chalklines]

Anyone else willing to take their daughter away from school and college to become a pro at 16 and make $20k a year?

Whats her payout from the Thorns and Nike?

All that circulated is her Nike contract was worth north of $300k for 4 years. She making at least $75k a year from them plus what ever the Thorns are paying her. Min salary at $17k. Thats not including any other endorsement deals or when she makes the USWNT which at min is an extra $62k a year.

So for now shes bringing in at least $92k a year and receiving the best training possible at no cost.

 

[Bethsoccer]

Holy Cow !!! I thought NWSL pay more than this.



How Much Do NWSL Players Make — 2020 NWSL Compensation Guidelines

• Salary Cap: Increased from $421,500 to $650,000
• Maximum Salary: Increased from $46,200 to $50,000
• Minimum Salary: Increased from $16,538 to $20,000

 

[watfly]

Anyone else willing to take their daughter away from school and college to become a pro at 16 and make $20k a year?

Impossible to answer since none of our kids are OM.

 

[MR.D]

Holy Cow !!! I thought NWSL pay more than this.



How Much Do NWSL Players Make — 2020 NWSL Compensation Guidelines

• Salary Cap: Increased from $421,500 to $650,000
• Maximum Salary: Increased from $46,200 to $50,000
• Minimum Salary: Increased from $16,538 to $20,000

What's the salary in Europe look like?

 

[Bethsoccer]

Info from sportmob.com.

The female footballers' salary in France is 4,000 euros per month, which is 48,000 euros per year, or USD 53,000, on average. In England, the situation is almost the same, and a top female footballer earns around £35,000 a year (USD 43,000).

 

[Bethsoccer]

Some hope.

Highest Paid Female Footballers 2021:

1. Carli Lloyd - $518,000
2. Sam Kerr - $500,000
3. Alex Morgan - $450,000
4. Megan Rapinoe - $447,000
5. Julie Ertz - $430,000
6. Ada Hegerberg - $425,000
7. Marta - $400,000
8. Amandine Henry - $394,500
9. Wendie Renard - $392,000
10. Christine Sinclair - $380,000

 

[Squishy]

Some hope.

Highest Paid Female Footballers 2021:

1. Carli Lloyd - $518,000
2. Sam Kerr - $500,000
3. Alex Morgan - $450,000
4. Megan Rapinoe - $447,000
5. Julie Ertz - $430,000
6. Ada Hegerberg - $425,000
7. Marta - $400,000
8. Amandine Henry - $394,500
9. Wendie Renard - $392,000
10. Christine Sinclair - $380,000

What are the realistic odds of being on that list? How long is the average career of a female soccer player? The median salary for an anesthesiologist in the US is $396,000. How long is the career of a physician? I think the academic path is the better, don't you?

 

[MSK357]

What are the realistic odds of being on that list? How long is the average career of a female soccer player? The median salary for an anesthesiologist in the US is $396,000. How long is the career of a physician? I think the academic path is the better, don't you?

If money is your child's goal in life, then a career in soccer is probably not the best route to go unless they can supplement it. Either way I am hoping the bulk of my kids wealth isn't generated by an employers salary. In this digital age the path to $$$ is no longer traditional.

 

[OCsoccerdad7777]

Anyone else willing to take their daughter away from school and college to become a pro at 16 and make $20k a year?

If my kid has the potential/drive and I had money to back her, 100% all day.
If I didn't have the money but kid has potential/drive, then probably lean towards college but not for sure.

Every situation/answer is different for each kid/family.

 

[notintheface]

Olivia is good. I don't know if she's good enough to start in the NWSL, but she is good.

She is also, I fear, going to wind up being the answer to a "whatever happened to..." question.

 

[LASTMAN14]

Read the article put out by ESPN. Below are the last two paragraphs. Found them absurd. This is not about fairness between the sexes, but ones own self interests led by a parent. This parental pursuit has also denied OM some basic aspects of life as a child. And, yes she has stated her ambitions, but anyone who has followed and knows this player understands everything they have done is not the right way to do it for her best interests.

“Immergut found Moultrie's argument -- that the player's career would be damaged if not allowed to play -- more compelling.”

"Plaintiff has presented persuasive evidence that each day that passes with the Age Rule in place represents a missed opportunity for her potential professional soccer career. Accordingly, this Court finds that the merits clearly favor Plaintiff's position and that she will be irreparably harmed if this Court does not grant the TRO. Furthermore, the balance of equities and the public interest strongly favor affording girls in the United States the same opportunities as boys."

 

[Jose has returned]

First, you need to assume your child is destined to make 500K per year in WNT endorsements.

I don't think the parents are doing all this because they think she's got a chance to be a Thorns bench player.

(They're still nuts. But it's Brazil nuts, not peanuts.)

Deez nuts?

 

[whatithink]

Read the article put out by ESPN. Below are the last two paragraphs. Found them absurd. This is not about fairness between the sexes, but ones own self interests led by a parent. This parental pursuit has also denied OM some basic aspects of life as a child. And, yes she has stated her ambitions, but anyone who has followed and knows this player understands everything they have done is not the right way to do it for her best interests.

“Immergut found Moultrie's argument -- that the player's career would be damaged if not allowed to play -- more compelling.”

"Plaintiff has presented persuasive evidence that each day that passes with the Age Rule in place represents a missed opportunity for her potential professional soccer career. Accordingly, this Court finds that the merits clearly favor Plaintiff's position and that she will be irreparably harmed if this Court does not grant the TRO. Furthermore, the balance of equities and the public interest strongly favor affording girls in the United States the same opportunities as boys."

Why do you find them absurd? I read the article below (linked) which gave quite a bit of information (I didn't have/know).

I do think there should be equitable treatment of boys/girls, so if the boys can then why not the girls? Girls mature (physically) earlier than boys, so if boys are making prof debuts at 16 or even 15 in leagues around the world, up to and including the elite leagues, why would a girl not be capable of the same?

The age restriction doesn't actually make sense from a playing or competitive perspective, which is basically what the judge is saying.

It may be moot if the players and league agree to insert it in the collective bargaining agreement, per the article.

National Women’s Soccer League must let 15-year-old Olivia Moultrie compete, judge rules

U.S District Judge Karin J. Immergut Monday granted a temporary restraining order, requiring the National Women's Soccer League to lift its 18-year-old minimum age rule for players while it negotiates a contract with the players association.

www.oregonlive.com

 

[LASTMAN14]

Why do you find them absurd? I read the article below (linked) which gave quite a bit of information (I didn't have/know).

I do think there should be equitable treatment of boys/girls, so if the boys can then why not the girls? Girls mature (physically) earlier than boys, so if boys are making prof debuts at 16 or even 15 in leagues around the world, up to and including the elite leagues, why would a girl not be capable of the same?

The age restriction doesn't actually make sense from a playing or competitive perspective, which is basically what the judge is saying.

It may be moot if the players and league agree to insert it in the collective bargaining agreement, per the article.

National Women’s Soccer League must let 15-year-old Olivia Moultrie compete, judge rules

U.S District Judge Karin J. Immergut Monday granted a temporary restraining order, requiring the National Women's Soccer League to lift its 18-year-old minimum age rule for players while it negotiates a contract with the players association.

www.oregonlive.com

My point is not about the equity. This case is not about this. It’s just being used as a means. Which I stated. Rather who is driving this and why. A parent.

 

[whatithink]

My point is not about the equity. This case is not about this. It’s just being used as a means. Which I stated. Rather who is driving this and why. A parent.

OK, I don't have any insight into the Parent in this instance, so you may be 100% correct that this is being driven by the Dad, cited as the guardian.

That said, obviously, as a minor, the case has to be driven by an adult / parent / guardian.

Either way, the case does highlight an inequity that seems to exist for no particular reason.

I'm sure the players will be 100% on board with removing this restriction as part of their collective agreement in the name of equity and all that.

 

[SoccerFan4Life]

I don’t know how Nike is giving such a huge endorsement on a player that most have never heard of. Outside of a small circle of youth soccer fanatics, I doubt that her name has a strong following.
Instagram has her with 130k followers and we all know that IG followers are inflated. Mallory Pugh has over 500k followers as a comparison.

 

[Soccerfan2]

I don’t know how Nike is giving such a huge endorsement on a player that most have never heard of. Outside of a small circle of youth soccer fanatics, I doubt that her name has a strong following.
Instagram has her with 130k followers and we all know that IG followers are inflated. Mallory Pugh has over 500k followers as a comparison.

This is a few hundred thousand dollars. A small endorsement by Nike standards. She popped up when there was already a lot of conversation about the WNT and women’s soccer in general. Viewed like that it doesn’t seem like such a huge stretch, just a little experiment.

 

[longbeachstrongbeach]

I don’t know how Nike is giving such a huge endorsement on a player that most have never heard of. Outside of a small circle of youth soccer fanatics, I doubt that her name has a strong following.
Instagram has her with 130k followers and we all know that IG followers are inflated. Mallory Pugh has over 500k followers as a comparison.

Maybe she is really good?

 

[GT45]

What are the realistic odds of being on that list? How long is the average career of a female soccer player? The median salary for an anesthesiologist in the US is $396,000. How long is the career of a physician? I think the academic path is the better, don't you?

If your only goal is money, sure. Some people value quality of life and enjoyment more than the almighty dollar though. So if one wants to pursue their passion, they should.

 

[MacDre]

I respect the hustle of the Moultries. There were big announcements yesterday at practice for my kids team. Thanks team OM!

Unfortunately, I think OM is going to have a serious problem getting playing time. For example, look at how much time my kids friend has played since she was promoted to the first team: https://www.ligafemenil.mx/cancha/j...dWIiOiAxMTE4MH0=/maria-ximena-santeliz-arvizu

Hopefully OM’s victory will force NWSL to implement a youth division for aspiring professional and college players like she did in liga mx yesterday. Thanks again OM.

Liga MX Femenil announces changes

The league will allow foreign players, establish a U17 division, and look to increase business partnerships in a bold new vision laid out by President Mikel Arriola.

www.google.com

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