Turning Pro at 13

why does the African-American community continue to support black criminals that were shot and killed by police when A) They were criminals their entire lives and B) They refused to comply with police and died because of it.
Because... if a white person does the exact same thing, they are less likely to get shot or killed. A white "thug" is also less likely be confronted by the police in the first place because they are less likely to be assumed to be doing wrong. If you pull over every black man in the country, you're going to find more black criminals. If whites were confronted by police at the same rates as blacks, they would be filling the prisons as well.
 
Because... if a white person does the exact same thing, they are less likely to get shot or killed. A white "thug" is also less likely be confronted by the police in the first place because they are less likely to be assumed to be doing wrong. If you pull over every black man in the country, you're going to find more black criminals. If whites were confronted by police at the same rates as blacks, they would be filling the prisons as well.
And that, Mr. Focomoso, is a truth so obvious it’s sad you have to explain it.
 
What in the hell happened to this thread?

The real news about a 13-year-old girl giving up any chance at amateur or college soccer so her parents could stroke their egos was over in a week. This thread then became a dump for people with axes to grind.
 
LOL! Love the RIP picture. So how is this Olivia Moultrie doing so far this season at the pro level? I am wondering if other youth players will follow. I believe the salaries are close to $19k for the women's league so not sure why one would want to go pro other than love for the game.
 
LOL! Love the RIP picture. So how is this Olivia Moultrie doing so far this season at the pro level? I am wondering if other youth players will follow. I believe the salaries are close to $19k for the women's league so not sure why one would want to go pro other than love for the game.

She isn’t a pro. She got money to appear in a commercial. At this point she couldn’t even compete at the D1 level. This is all a marketing ploy by Nike that is pretty much a Hail Mary. If she succeeds then great they get some publicity. If not they didn’t invest much and they generated some buzz.

I hope that she succeeds.
 
She is playing in the DA with the Portland Thorns U16/17 team. I would think she would at least want to try her hand in the WPSL this season - they don’t have an age restriction as I know 15 and 16 year olds that have been rostered. It is unfortunate that she gave up her college scholarship and left so Cal to play on a lower ranked team in the DA. Not sure that provides a better training atmosphere than Beach in the Southwest division
 
She is playing in the DA with the Portland Thorns U16/17 team. I would think she would at least want to try her hand in the WPSL this season - they don’t have an age restriction as I know 15 and 16 year olds that have been rostered. It is unfortunate that she gave up her college scholarship and left so Cal to play on a lower ranked team in the DA. Not sure that provides a better training atmosphere than Beach in the Southwest division

Marketing. Beach has some excellent coaches so it is definitely confusing. It will really suck for her if LAFC gets an NWSL team.
 
Yes, every parent has to guide their child in the way they think is best but for mine, I would never have chosen this path

They had enough money to build a practice field in their back yard and hire an every-day personal coach, so what was left?

I hope for the girl's sake that they didn't just do this for publicity to boost their home-based business.
 
13yr old is old news...i don't care nor need to follow her month to month progress. Nike will guarantee she gets a shot at the USWNT, even if not deserved by her play. That book is already written. Frankly, the kids I know would never consider a home-schooled girl with a private coach on salary since 6yrs old, a $100K practice field in her yard, and parents who promote/manage her full-time, an inspiring role model. Crystal Dunn/Carli Lloyd she is not.

As for the other topic in this thread. Despite the awful history of how it became so, USA now at least deserves credit for being the Diversity Experiment of the World. No other country on this planet (Canada not even close) has such a diverse group of citizens (and non-citizens) living together and progressing together. And, I do think most Americans are interested in trying to make things better for all. Since the majority of Americans don't even have a passport, it's unlikely they have personal experience with the homogeny in other countries around the globe.

In the daily headlines I read about the worst racists in this country, but when I'm sitting on the soccer sideline, I know this is the only place in the world where kids and adults with family lineages from all over the world enjoy playing together and supporting one another. And that should count for something.
 
13yr old is old news...i don't care nor need to follow her month to month progress. Nike will guarantee she gets a shot at the USWNT, even if not deserved by her play. That book is already written. Frankly, the kids I know would never consider a home-schooled girl with a private coach on salary since 6yrs old, a $100K practice field in her yard, and parents who promote/manage her full-time, an inspiring role model. Crystal Dunn/Carli Lloyd she is not.

As for the other topic in this thread. Despite the awful history of how it became so, USA now at least deserves credit for being the Diversity Experiment of the World. No other country on this planet (Canada not even close) has such a diverse group of citizens (and non-citizens) living together and progressing together. And, I do think most Americans are interested in trying to make things better for all. Since the majority of Americans don't even have a passport, it's unlikely they have personal experience with the homogeny in other countries around the globe.

In the daily headlines I read about the worst racists in this country, but when I'm sitting on the soccer sideline, I know this is the only place in the world where kids and adults with family lineages from all over the world enjoy playing together and supporting one another. And that should count for something.

I have yet to meet a close minded Canadian. I meet close minded Americans every day. Most European countries are no cup of tea when it comes to immigration. Believe it or not a lot of the liberal European democracies are actually Constitutional Monarchies. I would choose the USA over anywhere (especially Hawaii) but we are far from an idyllic place. My wife’s grandmother who is 94 has a sign in her guest bathroom that reminds me of that every time I go to her house.

The sign reads “Coloreds only.” It is a stark reminder of how far we have come yet how much farther we have yet to go.
 
We have a long way to go, but we are very diverse. Unfortunately we are also very segregated. At least soccer brings kids form different neighborhoods together.
 
We have a long way to go, but we are very diverse. Unfortunately we are also very segregated. At least soccer brings kids form different neighborhoods together.

Sports in general bring us together as Americans. I know that there is very little I agree with @Sheriff Joe on but we can both cheer for the Dodgers/Angels.

My best friend’s dad used to be the CEO of Matson Shipping my dad was a Marine. Two very different backgrounds but we were teammates in college and have been best friends since we were both 19.

Sports are awesome for bringing us all together.
 
13yr old is old news...i don't care nor need to follow her month to month progress. Nike will guarantee she gets a shot at the USWNT, even if not deserved by her play. That book is already written. Frankly, the kids I know would never consider a home-schooled girl with a private coach on salary since 6yrs old, a $100K practice field in her yard, and parents who promote/manage her full-time, an inspiring role model. Crystal Dunn/Carli Lloyd she is not.

As for the other topic in this thread. Despite the awful history of how it became so, USA now at least deserves credit for being the Diversity Experiment of the World. No other country on this planet (Canada not even close) has such a diverse group of citizens (and non-citizens) living together and progressing together. And, I do think most Americans are interested in trying to make things better for all. Since the majority of Americans don't even have a passport, it's unlikely they have personal experience with the homogeny in other countries around the globe.

In the daily headlines I read about the worst racists in this country, but when I'm sitting on the soccer sideline, I know this is the only place in the world where kids and adults with family lineages from all over the world enjoy playing together and supporting one another. And that should count for something.

Agreed and hoping we can all start to align on our own culture so we can thrive and unify to make progress. The fighting, arguing, name calling, hate, agendas, etc... just tired of it. We need to align on something and there’s going to need to be give and take. Appreciate the post.
 
Here's some curve balls for argument sake.

Are we being more critical because she's not a boy? Why arnt we trashing all the boys in Europe for signing with professional clubs and academys at a young age?

Personally I think OM path looks screwed up from the outside because here in the states we really don't have a proven blueprint for our male/female players. She's a trailblazer right now just like Pulisic was.
 
Yes, it is different because she is not a boy - the end game for men’s soccer is a multi -million $ contract so that pursuit makes sense. The end game for women’s soccer is poverty level income
 
Yes, it is different because she is not a boy - the end game for men’s soccer is a multi -million $ contract so that pursuit makes sense. The end game for women’s soccer is poverty level income

I would tend to agree with this, 43, but honestly... I'm not aware of a single soccer player (in the U.S.) that's chasing it for the money. I think the sport still has some "purity" left in that respect.
 
Yes, of course but to give up a free college education before going pro makes no sense- there is not a financial benefit to that. You can follow your passion for the game while you get a free college education
 
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