Ask Dom to remove your BS from this thread bro. Of course, youth soccer has nothing to do with politics and pay for play. Coach Unicorn is not happy
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kickingandscreaming
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I completely get it. The Kitchen is The Kitchen for a reason. I reported both posts yesterday.Ask Dom to remove your BS from this thread bro. Of course, youth soccer has nothing to do with politics and pay for play. Coach Unicorn is not happy
I love you bro. You have a good heart, and it was an honest mistake. You triggered coach and that can happen. I pissed these guys off back in the day and that's why Dom created "The Kitchen."
If they're too embarrassed to play D2 or D3, that says a lot about why they were playing to begin with. I'd say "not all... but most".
Sorry, but the majority of these kids should have “lowered” their expectations and gone to D2/D3 or NAIA schools in the first place. Parents and coaches need to have a realistic talk with D1 or bust dreamers who don’t have the ability. Plenty of great non-D1 schools and programs exist.
Many D3 programs actually play a better style of soccer than most D1 programs. We have a a lot of friends who DD's play both D1 and D3 and I watch many of their games. This has given me the opportunity to watch schools like Emory, Wesleyan (CT) and John's Hopkins play and they do it with style, unlike some Big 10 schools I have seen.
There are some great D2 schools out there. I'd say the top 50 schools in D2 can beat the bottom 100 in D3. Better to be top 10 on a D2 than bottom 10 on a D1.
Good luck to everyone out there that might have a kid looking for a spot. Find a school you like regardless of level. For 98% of the players out there this is that last stop anyways.
Good luck to everyone out there that might have a kid looking for a spot. Find a school you like regardless of level. For 98% of the players out there this is that last stop anyways.
dk_b
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I really enjoyed watching my kids' D3 games and my other kid's D1 games. The main difference between the two levels is the overall size and speed - that does not mean that there are not fast D3 players (there are) or that there are no big D3 players (there are) but, in general, the players at D1 are faster and bigger. And because of that the pace of the decision-making is different. You can see players logging occasional (and minimal) D1 mins because of athleticism who have great skill and might thrive in D3 and you see the occasional D3 player who grabs your eye and you could imagine on a D1 roster.
The soccer itself? Just like it always is across platforms (elite club, college, pro . . .) . . . some really good (crisp passing, interesting strategy, commitment to possession) and some that is really difficult to watch (physical for no purpose, everything is long, no passing sequences beyond 2 and the occasion 3 pass, etc.). I do think that kids who love the game more than the hype can find the right spot. Those who love the hype (that is, the label) more than the game will struggle to find contentment.
A major D1 coach told a camp full of kids the same thing. And said some of the best coaches are at the level as well.
two players through the college experience. one at D1 and the other D3. The player at
the D3 school had a great experience, good
coach, lifelong friends, played every game, competitive soccer, won their conference. The D1 player -horrible coaches, unexpected coach changes that ruined experiences, abusive environments, difficult team mates that caused a lot of grief in many ways, lying coaches with broken promises. Definitely learned a lot. Find a healthy environment at a good school with a sane, kind, and stable
coach. It doesn’t matter what level it is.
the D3 school had a great experience, good
coach, lifelong friends, played every game, competitive soccer, won their conference. The D1 player -horrible coaches, unexpected coach changes that ruined experiences, abusive environments, difficult team mates that caused a lot of grief in many ways, lying coaches with broken promises. Definitely learned a lot. Find a healthy environment at a good school with a sane, kind, and stable
coach. It doesn’t matter what level it is.
Per my observations from years of watching D1 soccer and now D3, yes the play is much quicker and athletic ability is different between the two divisions. However, IQ is IQ at any level and skill (footwork) remains that no matter where it is showcased. From the eye test I see less apt decision making at D1. So, the players at D1 may be athletic and can manage with the pace but not the execution. Which leads me to conclude that player selection/recruitment at D1 is still poor.
I think "D1" is a big selling point to the parents ego and to some kids (not your kid, I know she's a top player). We need to teach a healthy lifestyle for the girls. I know two families whose dd played D2 and NAIA and both graduating on time and made lifetime friends. The parents would post a few games once or twice a year and the next thing we know, here comes grad night. Very happy kids in healthy enviorments. D1 is not that great and all the horror stories come from D1. I'm sure there are some smaller school horror but it's very small %. I have heard some success stories, but most are crazy transfer portal stories, bad coach, liar coach, yeller coach, no coach, then a new coach who brings his favorites and then reality sets in. It's like working for a company for 6 months and then a new manager comes in. The new manager comes in and tells your kid, "get lost, you won't play, ever." This kid has 35% of $$$ and new coach made some promises and well, you guys all know how the game is played. I think it's an abuse of power and flat out wrong. I think a coach should be banned from bringing another player from his old team for at least one year but maybe two. Thanks for sharing bro.
While I understand why some players and parents shoot for "D1" college teams. It's odd to me that if you're able play at that level why you wouldn't be shooting for playing professionally as opposed to D1. It's like having a chance at gold but targeting silver.
whatithink
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That was the path surely, D1 > Draft > Pro. Of course, there were only 250 or so players in the draft, so around 2% of D1 players make the draft.
So just because you can make D1 doesn't mean that you are in the top 2% of them that are considered as potential pros.
All that said, the draft is no more and players are debuting on pro teams at 14, and signing contracts at 13.
I always thought that the lure of D1 was scholarships for playing, which the D2/3 schools cannot give (they can academic obviously). So its a financial thing along with bragging rights etc.
With how expensive college is, with college debt at 1.77 Trillion, getting money to play college soccer is still a huge deal. This can be any level.
whatithink
GOLD
Yes, it can be expensive. Depending on your choices, it can be very expensive, but also very reasonably priced. As with everything, it depends.
For example, here in AZ, if your kid gets a 4.0 GPA, they get tuition paid in the 3 public colleges for all 4 years. If they live at home, then they have no additional accommodation and food cost, so they can get a college degree basically for free. There are commuter colleges in CA which would be the same. Then you have WUE for out of state, assuming it aligns with your desired major, which could work out "OK" from a cost perspective.
If they choose out of state, or have to go to a prestigious private school, or get a crap GPA, or choose to live away from home, then that costs buck$$$$. Those are choices though.