Tournament fees?

[Grace T.]

How about not having guest!? Play with your team and develop your players. Ok, if you are unexpectedly short a player and are in a pinch, I get it. Or,I’ll even give you the “bring in a guest in an attempt to recruit the player” as a semi acceptable strategy. But guesting is getting out of hand. Kids flying in from out of state, teams that are made up almost entirely of guest players, coaches bringing in ringers to win games knowing perfectly well the kid has no intention of joining the team, while Johnny, who works his ass off and comes to practice every day watches from the bench. Laughable and desperate.
Oh, and if they are needed, they don’t pay, if they aren’t needed and are using the system to play in games and not pay club fees, charge them double.

The flying out thing mainly takes place at the olders levels for the showcases…the guest player wants to get a look or get the prestige of participating at a certain showcases. The receiving coach wants the team which might otherwise not be to be competitive. The ones who get shafted are the home team players that get less play time and less looks. This is the most egregious but probably also the most rare of situations.

The most common though is not a club to club guest but a team bringing down from the same clubs higher team a player to play in the lower levels just to win. Have seen this happen all the time and it just helps the bigger clubs at the expense of the smaller ones that eventually cap out on team level.

 

[crush]

The flying out thing mainly takes place at the olders levels for the showcases…the guest player wants to get a look or get the prestige of participating at a certain showcases. The receiving coach wants the team which might otherwise not be to be competitive. The ones who get shafted are the home team players that get less play time and less looks. This is the most egregious but probably also the most rare of situations.

The most common though is not a club to club guest but a team bringing down from the same clubs higher team a player to play in the lower levels just to win. Have seen this happen all the time and it just helps the bigger clubs at the expense of the smaller ones that eventually cap out on team level.

100%. "Team" is gone in soccer. It's all about: The League, The Doc, The Club, The Coach, The TM, The Parent and then if anything is left, The Player is finally attended to. This was not the case 10 years ago. Whatever happen to, "Team first?"

 

[Socal-Soccer-Dad]

What is a reasonable fee to pay as a guest to play in surf cup? This would be an individual player’s portion of the tournament fee and coach’s cost ( assume coach is not from San Diego so would presumably need to cover a player’s share of coach’s hotel, meals and other costs). But NOT including player’s own transportation, hotel, meals etc. I’m assuming 16 players per team.

Would be intrested to hear what others have been charged or would think is reasonable.
Thanks!

Not at Surf Cup specifically but I've seen teams really needing a player (kids out sick or couldn't make it last minute or something) and in that case, guest players would play for free.

If it's within the club and a kid is "playing up" on a flight and it's pre-planned to do so, I think either the guest player covers just a portion of the tournament fee or some portion of the coach's accommodations too but I think mainly the tournament fee.
Even in this case, I've seen in some instances the guest player playing for free.