Tournament fees?

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What is a reasonable fee to pay as a guest to play in surf cup? This would be an individual player’s portion of the tournament fee and coach’s cost ( assume coach is not from San Diego so would presumably need to cover a player’s share of coach’s hotel, meals and other costs). But NOT including player’s own transportation, hotel, meals etc. I’m assuming 16 players per team.

Would be intrested to hear what others have been charged or would think is reasonable.
Thanks!
 
BBJ said:
What is a reasonable fee to pay as a guest to play in surf cup? This would be an individual player’s portion of the tournament fee and coach’s cost ( assume coach is not from San Diego so would presumably need to cover a player’s share of coach’s hotel, meals and other costs). But NOT including player’s own transportation, hotel, meals etc. I’m assuming 16 players per team.

Would be intrested to hear what others have been charged or would think is reasonable.
Thanks!
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As some mentioned that guest players shouldn't be paying is a complete nonsense.
Only way for someone not paying would be that team is short and desperatly seeking a guest player to even make it to the event.
In all other instances every player should be sharing team fee.
In a example of a Surf Cup, which is very expensive tournament, sharing your posrtion of the team fee is only fair.
 
Eagle33 said:
As some mentioned that guest players shouldn't be paying is a complete nonsense.
Only way for someone not paying would be that team is short and desperatly seeking a guest player to even make it to the event.
In all other instances every player should be sharing team fee.
In a example of a Surf Cup, which is very expensive tournament, sharing your posrtion of the team fee is only fair.
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When my dd was 6th grader, she was "loaned" out to other clubs for her goals. If you save goals or scores goals as a guest, no pay to play....lol!!!
 
A guest player should always offer to pay. Some clubs will already have it budgeted and won't accept funds. Some run a little thinner and will appreciate it.
$50 is the minimum to offer if a small/medium local tournament.
$100 for a larger tournament. (Surf Cup, etc).

If its an event with college scouts and a team flyer/program is handed out- Guest player should also be included in this.

I dont think a guest should have to kick in for coach expenses.
 
timbuck said:
A guest player should always offer to pay.
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What if the guest player has no money to offer? What if both parents lost their jobs or are just super poor and can;t afford the hotels, dinners, team fees, coaches per diem and tournament fees? I see it like this. If a club is short handed or short on goals and invites any "guest" then it should be free. If parents have money, then of course they should pay to play like the rest. Like Eagle said, it was way cheaper 6 years ago and the teams my kid guested for had plenty of money to cover the the weekend games and team dinners.
 
Maybe the etiquette changes at the older age groups, but I’ve never asked a guest player for tournament fees nor have I ever been asked to pay for DD to guest play with another team. These tournaments are already budgeted based on the number of active players on the teams roster.

Guests are guests for a reason. It may be to try and recruit or it may to help win the tournament or it’s to help with subs being short handed. But if someone asked me to pay for my DD to guest, I’d say no thanks. We are guest playing to help that team out and for your kid to get some touches. We have no skin in the game.

My comments are based off the the 5 years of club experience as a parent and team manager. I’m sure others probably know better who have been around longer as this is our first year at 11 v 11.
 
I saw it go both ways -- from nothing, including the loan of a uniform to assessment of a 1/nth share of the total costs, including coach's travel and perdiem.
 
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TeamDadJokes said:
Maybe the etiquette changes at the older age groups, but I’ve never asked a guest player for tournament fees nor have I ever been asked to pay for DD to guest play with another team. These tournaments are already budgeted based on the number of active players on the teams roster.

Guests are guests for a reason. It may be to try and recruit or it may to help win the tournament or it’s to help with subs being short handed. But if someone asked me to pay for my DD to guest, I’d say no thanks. We are guest playing to help that team out and for your kid to get some touches. We have no skin in the game.

My comments are based off the the 5 years of club experience as a parent and team manager. I’m sure others probably know better who have been around longer as this is our first year at 11 v 11.
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There is a cost difference between youngers and olders.
As you said, if the team shorthanded or just wants to win and needs a player, thats that.
Question was about Surf Cup. For this particular tournament players ussually looking to guest, not teams loooking for players.
 
Eagle33 said:
There is a cost difference between youngers and olders.
As you said, if the team shorthanded or just wants to win and needs a player, thats that.
Question was about Surf Cup. For this particular tournament players ussually looking to guest, not teams loooking for players.
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Great catch Eagle. If you put your kid on the guest list to be picked up by another club then you need to pay to play 100%. I guess I read into this post wrong. My kid only guested at Surf Thanksgiving and not Surf Cup. Does that count? Her teams were always playing in Surf Cup with no guest.
 
the fun ones are when the team charges some guest players and not others…DD on an 08 (U13 last year)team, two 08 guest players paid an arbitrary $250/ea and two 09s didn’t pay a dime…this for president‘s cup regionals
 
I am a little bit confused with this so called "guest". Why a team wants to invite more players? If a team already has 1-2 player on the bench, it should be enough.
Is it really that important to win? I thought the goal of "pay to play" is to play.
 
jojon said:
I am a little bit confused with this so called "guest". Why a team wants to invite more players? If a team already has 1-2 player on the bench, it should be enough.
Is it really that important to win? I thought the goal of "pay to play" is to play.
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"Pay to play to play and win" when you play, is icing on the cake and most parents and clubs want to win at all cost. I don't like the guesting stuff and I wish I had said no to the invites back in the day. Some think I was chasing medals because I never won any as a kid, which is BS. I was actually flattered and honored Docs wanted my kid to play. It rubbed people the wrong way and I see that now. Slammers borrowed three top Surf players to win the Cerritos Memorial and we lost to them in the finals and we were pissed off losers that day and the forum was going crazy that Slammers would pull such a stunt. It was 6-0 at the half and my kid and another kid were told they need to play better. They already had the best team on paper and still needed to bring in the ringers. It was classic banter at old forum days.
 
In 8 years of soccer, my DD has played as a guest many times (maybe 20). Her team has had guest players probably 30 times. Never has the guest been asked to pay anything. Tournaments are part of the team budget, and every player on the team payed their share regardless of them attending or not.
 
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