I think the only moron here is you. You do not have any kids playing in the 2011 age group and you’re all caught up in this thread. All you do is instigate. I’ve left this thread because I have had a change of heart. Maybe in the really young ages it’s not about winning and trying to collect trophies. It’s about best developing your DD to get her ready to compete when she is older. Yes I admit it was about winning for me prior but haven written that post and seeing what all the veterans here have to say about winning at the young age level has made me rethink that it’s not really that important. The better question is your DD in the right team that will get her ready to compete after she turns 13 years old.