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It just goes to show you how insidious ant-Semitism and racism are. Propaganda like this is created by haters and then it gets passed along by people who lack critical thinking skills, are ignorant about history and/or just want to parrot a narrative. Even media begins to pick it up. It doesn't matter how many times a lie is repeated or posted on social media, its still a lie.
The better question is who is the source of the maps and what credible source is claiming the maps are accurate. Nevertheless, here you go for debunking. Summary first. Not covered in the summary is that much of what the maps show as Israel occupying is the Negev desert which is effectively uninhabitable with the exception of some Bedouins.
The "four maps of Israel/Palestine" (often called the "Disappearing Palestine" maps) are widely debunked as historical propaganda. They use visual deception and false categorization to suggest Israel systematically stole Palestinian land. Even major news outlets like MSNBC have formally apologized and retracted them for being completely incorrect. [1, 2, 3, 4]
These maps are fundamentally misleading due to the following core fallacies:
1. The 1946 Falsity (Not a Palestinian State)
- The Claim: The first map shows all of modern-day Israel as a sovereign Palestinian state in 1946.
- The Reality: There was no sovereign state called Palestine at that time. The territory was governed under the British Mandate for Palestine. The entire region was home to a mix of British administrators, Arab communities, and Jewish communities. The map's labeling implies that any land not explicitly Jewish was an established Arab country, which is historically false. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
- The Claim: The second map is usually presented as the proposed division of "Palestinian land."
- The Reality: This was a non-binding UN recommendation to split the territory into separate Jewish and Arab states. It designated land for both groups to create states. Jewish leaders accepted the plan, but Arab leadership and neighboring Arab nations rejected it. Because it was rejected, it never became law, and no sovereign Palestinian state was formed. [1, 2, 3]
- The Claim: The third map generally portrays the West Bank and Gaza as unified "Palestinian" territory.
- The Reality: Following the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, the territory was divided between the newly formed State of Israel and neighboring Arab states. Jordan seized and annexed the West Bank, while Egypt took military control of the Gaza Strip. Palestinians living in these areas did not have their own state, and the maps omit this critical Arab administration entirely. [1, 2, 3]
- The Claim: The final map paints large swathes of the West Bank and Gaza as an autonomous Palestinian state losing territory.
- The Reality: The green color's meaning constantly shifts. In the early maps, the green denotes any Arab-inhabited or un-owned land, while in the modern map, it denotes areas of semi-autonomy under the Palestinian Authority (created by the Oslo Accords) and Hamas. Furthermore, the map fails to show the massive territorial concessions and peace offers that Israel has proposed (such as those in 2000, 2001, and 2008), as well as Israel's complete withdrawal from Gaza in 2005. [1, 2, 3]
- Debunked: Those Maps of 'Palestinian Land Loss' Are ...
Jul 14, 2021 — The more common version features a map claiming to show “Palestine” in 1946. Colored mostly in green, there are a number of small ...
Honest Reporting - “Disappearing Palestine” - the Maps that Lie - AIJAC
Jul 7, 2020 — Appearing regularly in pro-Palestinian books, articles, social media and websites here and overseas – and even in mainstream media...
Australia Israel & Jewish Affairs Council (AIJAC) - MSNBC apologizes for 'completely wrong' maps of Israel
Oct 20, 2015 — MSNBC apologizes for 'completely wrong' maps of Israel | The Times of Israel. 'It's very complex to accurately cover the Middle Ea...
The Times of Israel
Some other reputable debunkings, not from Jews or Palestinians.
Israel-Palestine: When the Map Lies - Catholics for Israel
Building bridges between Israel and the Church
www.catholicsforisrael.com
MSNBC'S debunking
Chelsea dad g09
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Thank you. I would've told him he could've figured it out with a 6 second Google search.The better question is who is the source of the maps and what credible source is claiming the maps are accurate. Nevertheless, here you go for debunking. Summary first. Not covered in the summary is that much of what the maps show as Israel occupying is the Negev desert which is effectively uninhabitable with the exception of some Bedouins.
The "four maps of Israel/Palestine" (often called the "Disappearing Palestine" maps) are widely debunked as historical propaganda. They use visual deception and false categorization to suggest Israel systematically stole Palestinian land. Even major news outlets like MSNBC have formally apologized and retracted them for being completely incorrect. [1, 2, 3, 4]
These maps are fundamentally misleading due to the following core fallacies:
1. The 1946 Falsity (Not a Palestinian State)
2. The 1947 United Nations Partition Plan (Never Implemented)
- The Claim: The first map shows all of modern-day Israel as a sovereign Palestinian state in 1946.
- The Reality: There was no sovereign state called Palestine at that time. The territory was governed under the British Mandate for Palestine. The entire region was home to a mix of British administrators, Arab communities, and Jewish communities. The map's labeling implies that any land not explicitly Jewish was an established Arab country, which is historically false. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
3. The 1949–1967 Erasure of Jordan and Egypt
- The Claim: The second map is usually presented as the proposed division of "Palestinian land."
- The Reality: This was a non-binding UN recommendation to split the territory into separate Jewish and Arab states. It designated land for both groups to create states. Jewish leaders accepted the plan, but Arab leadership and neighboring Arab nations rejected it. Because it was rejected, it never became law, and no sovereign Palestinian state was formed. [1, 2, 3]
4. The 1967-Present Sovereignty and "Green" Discrepancy
- The Claim: The third map generally portrays the West Bank and Gaza as unified "Palestinian" territory.
- The Reality: Following the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, the territory was divided between the newly formed State of Israel and neighboring Arab states. Jordan seized and annexed the West Bank, while Egypt took military control of the Gaza Strip. Palestinians living in these areas did not have their own state, and the maps omit this critical Arab administration entirely. [1, 2, 3]
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- The Claim: The final map paints large swathes of the West Bank and Gaza as an autonomous Palestinian state losing territory.
- The Reality: The green color's meaning constantly shifts. In the early maps, the green denotes any Arab-inhabited or un-owned land, while in the modern map, it denotes areas of semi-autonomy under the Palestinian Authority (created by the Oslo Accords) and Hamas. Furthermore, the map fails to show the massive territorial concessions and peace offers that Israel has proposed (such as those in 2000, 2001, and 2008), as well as Israel's complete withdrawal from Gaza in 2005. [1, 2, 3]
Show all
- Debunked: Those Maps of 'Palestinian Land Loss' Are ...
Jul 14, 2021 — The more common version features a map claiming to show “Palestine” in 1946. Colored mostly in green, there are a number of small ...
Honest Reporting- “Disappearing Palestine” - the Maps that Lie - AIJAC
Jul 7, 2020 — Appearing regularly in pro-Palestinian books, articles, social media and websites here and overseas – and even in mainstream media...
Australia Israel & Jewish Affairs Council (AIJAC)- MSNBC apologizes for 'completely wrong' maps of Israel
Oct 20, 2015 — MSNBC apologizes for 'completely wrong' maps of Israel | The Times of Israel. 'It's very complex to accurately cover the Middle Ea...
The Times of Israel
Some other reputable debunkings, not from Jews or Palestinians.
Israel-Palestine: When the Map Lies - Catholics for Israel
Building bridges between Israel and the Church
MSNBC'S debunking
Espola is Exhibit A of a "useful idiot".
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
The better question is who is the source of the maps and what credible source is claiming the maps are accurate. Nevertheless, here you go for debunking. Summary first. Not covered in the summary is that much of what the maps show as Israel occupying is the Negev desert which is effectively uninhabitable with the exception of some Bedouins.
The "four maps of Israel/Palestine" (often called the "Disappearing Palestine" maps) are widely debunked as historical propaganda. They use visual deception and false categorization to suggest Israel systematically stole Palestinian land. Even major news outlets like MSNBC have formally apologized and retracted them for being completely incorrect. [1, 2, 3, 4]
These maps are fundamentally misleading due to the following core fallacies:
1. The 1946 Falsity (Not a Palestinian State)
2. The 1947 United Nations Partition Plan (Never Implemented)
- The Claim: The first map shows all of modern-day Israel as a sovereign Palestinian state in 1946.
- The Reality: There was no sovereign state called Palestine at that time. The territory was governed under the British Mandate for Palestine. The entire region was home to a mix of British administrators, Arab communities, and Jewish communities. The map's labeling implies that any land not explicitly Jewish was an established Arab country, which is historically false. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
3. The 1949–1967 Erasure of Jordan and Egypt
- The Claim: The second map is usually presented as the proposed division of "Palestinian land."
- The Reality: This was a non-binding UN recommendation to split the territory into separate Jewish and Arab states. It designated land for both groups to create states. Jewish leaders accepted the plan, but Arab leadership and neighboring Arab nations rejected it. Because it was rejected, it never became law, and no sovereign Palestinian state was formed. [1, 2, 3]
4. The 1967-Present Sovereignty and "Green" Discrepancy
- The Claim: The third map generally portrays the West Bank and Gaza as unified "Palestinian" territory.
- The Reality: Following the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, the territory was divided between the newly formed State of Israel and neighboring Arab states. Jordan seized and annexed the West Bank, while Egypt took military control of the Gaza Strip. Palestinians living in these areas did not have their own state, and the maps omit this critical Arab administration entirely. [1, 2, 3]
View attachment 38786View attachment 387877 sites
- The Claim: The final map paints large swathes of the West Bank and Gaza as an autonomous Palestinian state losing territory.
- The Reality: The green color's meaning constantly shifts. In the early maps, the green denotes any Arab-inhabited or un-owned land, while in the modern map, it denotes areas of semi-autonomy under the Palestinian Authority (created by the Oslo Accords) and Hamas. Furthermore, the map fails to show the massive territorial concessions and peace offers that Israel has proposed (such as those in 2000, 2001, and 2008), as well as Israel's complete withdrawal from Gaza in 2005. [1, 2, 3]
Show all
- Debunked: Those Maps of 'Palestinian Land Loss' Are ...
Jul 14, 2021 — The more common version features a map claiming to show “Palestine” in 1946. Colored mostly in green, there are a number of small ...
Honest Reporting- “Disappearing Palestine” - the Maps that Lie - AIJAC
Jul 7, 2020 — Appearing regularly in pro-Palestinian books, articles, social media and websites here and overseas – and even in mainstream media...
Australia Israel & Jewish Affairs Council (AIJAC)- MSNBC apologizes for 'completely wrong' maps of Israel
Oct 20, 2015 — MSNBC apologizes for 'completely wrong' maps of Israel | The Times of Israel. 'It's very complex to accurately cover the Middle Ea...
The Times of Israel
Some other reputable debunkings, not from Jews or Palestinians.
Israel-Palestine: When the Map Lies - Catholics for Israel
Building bridges between Israel and the Church
MSNBC'S debunking
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
He was probably too busy learning the new dance moves for the next No Kings protest dance-off.