Magic Science
SEN. HAWLEY: "Can men get pregnant?"
DR. VERMA: "I'm not really sure what the goal of the question is."
HAWLEY: "The goal is the truth and to establish a biological reality. So, can men get pregnant?"
VERMA: "I take care of people with many identities..."
HAWLEY: "You testified a moment ago science and evidence should control medicine, not politics. Do science and evidence tell us that biological men can get pregnant?"
VERMA: "I also think yes and no questions like this are a political tool."
HAWLEY: "Yes and no questions are about the truth doctor... You're a doctor who has been called by the other side as an expert who follows the science and evidence, so I just want to know, can men get pregnant?"
VERMA: "I think you're trying to reduce the complexity... I think you're also conflating male and female..."
HAWLEY: "This isn't hard doctor. Can men get pregnant? Yes or no?"
VERMA: "I would be more than happy to have a conversation with you that is not coming from a place that is trying to be polarizing..."
HAWLEY: "Biological men don't get pregnant. There's a difference between biological men and women. I don't know how we can take you seriously and your claims to be a person of science if you won't level with us on this basic issue."
VERMA: "I am a person of science, and I'm also someone who is here to represent the complex experiences of my patients and I don't think polarized language or questions serve that goal..."
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