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WHO"S ENFORCING ?
18 U.S. Code § 1507 - Picketing or parading

Whoever, with the intent of interfering with, obstructing, or impeding the administration of justice, or with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer, in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building housing a court of the United States, or in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such judge, juror, witness, or court officer, or with such intent uses any sound-truck or similar device or resorts to any other demonstration in or near any such building or residence, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
Nothing in this section shall interfere with or prevent the exercise by any court of the United States of its power to punish for contempt.
(Added Sept. 23, 1950, ch. 1024, title I, § 31(a), 64 Stat. 1018; amended Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(K), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
 
18 USC 1507 is typically only enforced when it directly interrupts a proceeding or if a blatant attempt at intimidation. That "protest" hardly qualifies as either.
 
18 USC 1507 is typically only enforced when it directly interrupts a proceeding or if a blatant attempt at intimidation. That "protest" hardly qualifies as either.
Where did you find the information regarding "typically only enforced"...?
So you believe these protesters have no intend to influence the judges regarding abortion?
Why then would they show up and protest?
The language is specific and states:
Whoever, with the intent of influencing any judge, in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such judge shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
The AG is a disgrace....
 
I read. A lot. Look at some case law surrounding the section and the interplay between it and the first amendment. It's really about blatant obstruction and intimidation. It's gonna take a lot more than a small band of protesters with a megaphone to warrant any action under 1807 and it's been that since the Reagan administration.
 
I read. A lot. Look at some case law surrounding the section and the interplay between it and the first amendment. It's really about blatant obstruction and intimidation. It's gonna take a lot more than a small band of protesters with a megaphone to warrant any action under 1807 and it's been that since the Reagan administration.
What is the definition of blatant intimidation? A guy from Simi Valley showing up with a gun?
The law does not mention "blatant". That would undoubtedly open the law up to interpretation...
Political protest and judicial intimidation are two very different things
Political protest at the Supreme Court is one thing...protesting beneath a child's bedroom window is quite another.
If you would, do us all a favor and cite the case law you are referencing. Appreciate it.
 
And I thought right wingers backed the blue not threatened them.
 
Good for the goose....
Democrats objected to counting electoral totals in 2000, 2004 & 2016 Presidential elections.
 
Didn’t read it I see.
I read it Daffy...
I was simply pointing out that the Democrats are no better than the Republican when it comes to counting votes...
Read up poodle dick: try to comprehend what is written. Good luck!

Democrats Have Been Shameless About Your Presidential Vote Too
After the 2000, 2004 and 2016 elections, they objected to counting electoral totals.

By Derek T. Muller
Mr. Muller is a law professor at the University of Iowa who specializes in election law.
  • Jan. 6, 2021
As Republicans in Congress prepare to formally contest the outcome of the 2020 presidential election on Wednesday, many of them have cited precedent for their effort: similar complaints lodged by Democrats in other presidential elections. After Republican victories in 2000, 2004 and 2016, for instance, Democrats in Congress used the formal counting of electoral votes as an opportunity to challenge election results.

But the history of Democratic efforts to contest the outcomes of presidential elections is not a history worth emulating. On the contrary, it only underscores that the certification of a president-elect’s victory by the House and Senate is an improper forum for the airing of political grievances and an inappropriate occasion to readjudicate the decisions of the states concerning things like vote tallies, recounts and audits.

While Congress has the power to decline to count electoral votes, it has done so only in extreme situations in the aftermath of the Civil War — when, for instance, a state was deemed to lack a functioning government. The Electoral Count Act of 1887, which sets the rules for Congress to count electoral votes, was enacted with the presumption that state procedures are trustworthy. The act instructs Congress to defer to state judgments when a state resolves controversies over the appointment of electors.

The act also requires broad political consensus to decline to count electoral votes. It instructs that on Jan. 6 after a presidential election, the president of the Senate (typically the vice president) presides over a session of the two chambers. If a member of Congress wishes to object to counting a state’s electoral votes, a member of the House and a member of the Senate must sign a written objection. The chambers separate for up to two hours of debate. If majorities of both chambers agree to the objection, the objection stands. If not, the votes are counted.

Few objections were filed in accordance with the Electoral Count Act in the 20th century. But starting with George W. Bush’s victory in the 2000 presidential election, Democrats contested election results after every Republican win.

 
I read it Daffy...
I was simply pointing out that the Democrats are no better than the Republican when it comes to counting votes...
Read up poodle dick: try to comprehend what is written. Good luck!

Democrats Have Been Shameless About Your Presidential Vote Too
After the 2000, 2004 and 2016 elections, they objected to counting electoral totals.

By Derek T. Muller
Mr. Muller is a law professor at the University of Iowa who specializes in election law.
  • Jan. 6, 2021
As Republicans in Congress prepare to formally contest the outcome of the 2020 presidential election on Wednesday, many of them have cited precedent for their effort: similar complaints lodged by Democrats in other presidential elections. After Republican victories in 2000, 2004 and 2016, for instance, Democrats in Congress used the formal counting of electoral votes as an opportunity to challenge election results.

But the history of Democratic efforts to contest the outcomes of presidential elections is not a history worth emulating. On the contrary, it only underscores that the certification of a president-elect’s victory by the House and Senate is an improper forum for the airing of political grievances and an inappropriate occasion to readjudicate the decisions of the states concerning things like vote tallies, recounts and audits.

While Congress has the power to decline to count electoral votes, it has done so only in extreme situations in the aftermath of the Civil War — when, for instance, a state was deemed to lack a functioning government. The Electoral Count Act of 1887, which sets the rules for Congress to count electoral votes, was enacted with the presumption that state procedures are trustworthy. The act instructs Congress to defer to state judgments when a state resolves controversies over the appointment of electors.

The act also requires broad political consensus to decline to count electoral votes. It instructs that on Jan. 6 after a presidential election, the president of the Senate (typically the vice president) presides over a session of the two chambers. If a member of Congress wishes to object to counting a state’s electoral votes, a member of the House and a member of the Senate must sign a written objection. The chambers separate for up to two hours of debate. If majorities of both chambers agree to the objection, the objection stands. If not, the votes are counted.

Few objections were filed in accordance with the Electoral Count Act in the 20th century. But starting with George W. Bush’s victory in the 2000 presidential election, Democrats contested election results after every Republican win.

I didn’t see anything about Dominion tallying machines or the trump originated conspiracy theories behind doubting the validity of those machines. There are always holes in your straw men.
 
I didn’t see anything about Dominion tallying machines or the trump originated conspiracy theories behind doubting the validity of those machines. There are always holes in your straw men.
Are you really that dense?
The Republicans question a machine, the Democrats question the process....which is worse?
 
Are you really that dense?
The Republicans question a machine, the Democrats question the process....which is worse?
More of your usual deflection. You never answer wuestion or deal directly with the topic at hand. You deflect, ad hominem, whatsboutism, deflect some more then ad hominem, always with the ad hominem as if that will shield you, it doesn’t, never has.
 
More of your usual deflection. You never answer wuestion or deal directly with the topic at hand. You deflect, ad hominem, whatsboutism, deflect some more then ad hominem, always with the ad hominem as if that will shield you, it doesn’t, never has.

It's common knowledge that you suffer comprehension problems Daff...
If you don't see how you argue against the Republican's whilst ignoring the Democrats similar sins, you'll never understand the so called ad hominem
reactions pointed your way....
You've had a long day Daff, take the rest of the evening off.
 
"Trump's aims as president were totally different from any other president, Republican or Democrat," Ben-Ghiat, a historian at New York University who is an expert on fascism, told Insider. "His aims were autocratic in that he wanted to turn public office into a vessel of making money for himself — to have private profit off of public office."
 
"Trump's aims as president were totally different from any other president, Republican or Democrat," Ben-Ghiat, a historian at New York University who is an expert on fascism, told Insider. "His aims were autocratic in that he wanted to turn public office into a vessel of making money for himself — to have private profit off of public office."

Couple that with his "Article II means I can do anything I want" theory.
 
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