The Inevitable New The Inevitable Trump Mocking Thread

Bruddah IZ said:
Causation is hard to prove. Magnitudes of one cause compared to another is even harder to prove in the bigger scheme of things. Lumping tariffs on top of a spending bill gives the appearance that trade policy was the driving cause of 5 0r 6 days of trading. You people are famous for your sound bite assessments of causation in economic policy. That's how QE and ACA happened. You can claim it's a different debate but that would be equivocal. When I read your post that you would "have done a combo, myself, and forced a bit of "moral hazard" on a few of the big banks/insurers/overly leveraged companies as a well as a pre-requist of helicopter money, but nobody asked me", nobody asked you because that's what they actually did. Ignoring that 5 years of QE can have any effect on market corrections is not surprising for you, Son of Judah.
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"Moral hazard" was minimal at most, temporary and did little to change landscape.

Causation of single day market moves are not hard to prove. You can line the info publication up with the moves in, you know, real time.

The idea that 5 years of QE "suddenly" tanks a market 15 minutes after China announces retalitory tariffs list is just stupid, end stop. You can dance on the head of all the pins you want, but it doesn't make that claim fit for anyone but a pin-head.

But here, how's about looking at some, you know, data...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-are-reacting-to-u-s-china-trade-tariff-plans
 
Friesland said:
"Moral hazard" was minimal at most, temporary and did little to change landscape.

Causation of single day market moves are not hard to prove. You can line the info publication up with the moves in, you know, real time.

The idea that 5 years of QE "suddenly" tanks a market 15 minutes after China announces retalitory tariffs list is just stupid, end stop. You can dance on the head of all the pins you want, but it doesn't make that claim fit for anyone but a pin-head.

But here, how's about looking at some, you know, data...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-are-reacting-to-u-s-china-trade-tariff-plans
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I like the part where diz said, "You people are famous for your sound bite assessments of causation in economic policy. " Lol, the irony coming from him...
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Seems the Obama economy has met it's match . . . Trump does like to do just the opposite of his predecessor, for better or for worse. Obama brought us up and out of the edge of depression, Trump will take us back.
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To be clear, though. I am not talking about the overall trajectory of the economy. I was simply talking about the major 1 day moves in the past 6 weeks or so. They are clearly tied to threat of tariff - almost to the minute. The market is also concerned with deficit/inflation concerns, but not with the same immediacy or uniformity. And the market is not the economy. Earnings season will likely be good, in part due to tax moves, but with employment tight and wages and rent perhaps being squeezed, inflation concerns are real. They just are not what primarily moved the market on the specific days that Trump or China announced Tariff intentions.

China talking about devaluing or pushing down value of Yuan. The US has devalued the the USD$ esp relative China. Will Trump label china currencey manipulator? There's lots of things that go into long-term ecomonic health and growth and even trade and they are way more complex. But the short-term moves immediately following policy announcements... it don't take a rocket surgeon.
 
Friesland said:
To be clear, though. I am not talking about the overall trajectory of the economy. I was simply talking about the major 1 day moves in the past 6 weeks or so. They are clearly tied to threat of tariff - almost to the minute. The market is also concerned with deficit/inflation concerns, but not with the same immediacy or uniformity. And the market is not the economy. Earnings season will likely be good, in part due to tax moves, but with employment tight and wages and rent perhaps being squeezed, inflation concerns are real. They just are not what primarily moved the market on the specific days that Trump or China announced Tariff intentions.

China talking about devaluing or pushing down value of Yuan. The US has devalued the the USD$ esp relative China. Will Trump label china currencey manipulator? There's lots of things that go into long-term ecomonic health and growth and even trade and they are way more complex. But the short-term moves immediately following policy announcements... it don't take a rocket surgeon.
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Now we know why you are in television.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Seems the Obama economy has met it's match . . . Trump does like to do just the opposite of his predecessor, for better or for worse. Obama brought us up and out of the edge of depression, Trump will take us back.
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Friesland said:
To be clear, though. I am not talking about the overall trajectory of the economy. I was simply talking about the major 1 day moves in the past 6 weeks or so. They are clearly tied to threat of tariff - almost to the minute. The market is also concerned with deficit/inflation concerns, but not with the same immediacy or uniformity. And the market is not the economy. Earnings season will likely be good, in part due to tax moves, but with employment tight and wages and rent perhaps being squeezed, inflation concerns are real. They just are not what primarily moved the market on the specific days that Trump or China announced Tariff intentions.

China talking about devaluing or pushing down value of Yuan. The US has devalued the the USD$ esp relative China. Will Trump label china currencey manipulator? There's lots of things that go into long-term ecomonic health and growth and even trade and they are way more complex. But the short-term moves immediately following policy announcements... it don't take a rocket surgeon.
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Indicators and trends . . .
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Many prominent conservatives in the Trump orbit spend their days railing against ‘Hollywood elites’ while desperately trying to join the club.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/hollywoods-thirstiest-wannabes-conservatives
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Incapable of bagging a real-life A-list girlfriend, Trump later turned to Twitter, a refuge for wannabes and outsiders everywhere. He’s shared his opinions on numerous entertainment world happenings, chiming in on Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson’s relationship and advising Miley Cyrus not to “worry about Liam.” It seems that the A-listers who Trump tweeted about weren’t texting him back or offering to hang out at Trump Tower—so he had to console himself with the has-beens who agreed to appear on The Celebrity Apprentice.

Perhaps nobody’s said it better than George Clooney, self-appointed Trump administration shit-stirrer. “Donald Trump has 22 acting credits,” Clooney proclaimed. “He collects $120,000 a year in his Screen Actors Guild pension fund. He is a Hollywood elitist”—a Hollywood elitist who everyone in Hollywood hates.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Incapable of bagging a real-life A-list girlfriend, Trump later turned to Twitter, a refuge for wannabes and outsiders everywhere. He’s shared his opinions on numerous entertainment world happenings, chiming in on Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson’s relationship and advising Miley Cyrus not to “worry about Liam.” It seems that the A-listers who Trump tweeted about weren’t texting him back or offering to hang out at Trump Tower—so he had to console himself with the has-beens who agreed to appear on The Celebrity Apprentice.

Perhaps nobody’s said it better than George Clooney, self-appointed Trump administration shit-stirrer. “Donald Trump has 22 acting credits,” Clooney proclaimed. “He collects $120,000 a year in his Screen Actors Guild pension fund. He is a Hollywood elitist”—a Hollywood elitist who everyone in Hollywood hates.
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Bannon is a failed screenwriter... Mnuchin is a movie producer who still has a manse in the hills, married to a "starlet." That rubes fall for the Hollywood Elite con is almost as dumb as them falling for every other Don the Con con...
 
Friesland said:
And we still know why you're in the sauce.

And we know you're still in the sauce because you make stupid comments about the market...

Racist sterno-jo, cute even when he's bathing in his own vomit.
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I already told you, finance izn't my forte and that's why I hired Brudda Iz to help me in all my business and finance decisions.
Dummy
 
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