The Inevitable New The Inevitable Trump Mocking Thread

espola said:
The current system favors the adversarial behavior between two strong parties. In many states, R and D have conspired together to eliminate or limit the power of any upstart third parties or independent candidates.

My personal plan would require Constitutional amendments. One change would be to elect the President and Vice President separately - the current system occurred more or less by accident when the 12th Amendment revised the original method wherein the President was the man who got the most electoral votes and the VP he who got the second most, with unsatisfactory behavior in the event of ties or non-majority close calls. That's not too radical an idea - many states already elect Governor and Lieutenant Governor separately and often the results are split.

Another change would eliminate the winner-take-all practice in which one candidate for President gets all of that state's electoral votes (in principle, at least - there have been some "rogue" electors in the past). Two states, Maine and Nebraska, already have a clumsy system where a candidate could lose in the whole state but still win in one or more Congressional districts and thus get one electoral vote. It wouldn't take too much of a computer programmer to come up with a way to split California's 55 voters among all candidates who met a certain minimal level of support. Note that I am not in favor of a nationwide popular-vote election, since preserving each state's electoral votes limits electoral fraud in any state to that state's electors.

In larger states, say for those with 5 or more Congressmen, candidates would run either on a state-wide at-large ticket, or through a system of electoral lists in which each party or list wins a number of seats proportional to its votes statewide. That one needs some further thought, since it might eliminate or reduce the "localness" of your local Congressman.

Another idea - eliminate any office or financial advantage that Representatives or Senators get by party membership. They could still organize themselves as Majority or Minority/Opposition parties, but we taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for a fancier office and expanded staff budget for the Majority Leader.

Neither R nor D will support these ideas, since finishing second with some hope for the next election is better than just fading away.
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This is an accident waiting to happen.
Thank God nobody takes you seriously.
 
tenacious said:
I'm a 170 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal. That doesn't happen when you're my age if you eat sandwiches with mayo on the inside or the outside.

The other benefit of being a plumber... you can eat what you want and even if you get so fat your ass hangs out, and it's like something people find endearing.
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The Bread is the border between your hands and the mayo, or mustard.
It keeps things in order.

signed, -giver-.
 
espola said:
The current system favors the adversarial behavior between two strong parties. In many states, R and D have conspired together to eliminate or limit the power of any upstart third parties or independent candidates.

My personal plan would require Constitutional amendments. One change would be to elect the President and Vice President separately - the current system occurred more or less by accident when the 12th Amendment revised the original method wherein the President was the man who got the most electoral votes and the VP he who got the second most, with unsatisfactory behavior in the event of ties or non-majority close calls. That's not too radical an idea - many states already elect Governor and Lieutenant Governor separately and often the results are split.

Another change would eliminate the winner-take-all practice in which one candidate for President gets all of that state's electoral votes (in principle, at least - there have been some "rogue" electors in the past). Two states, Maine and Nebraska, already have a clumsy system where a candidate could lose in the whole state but still win in one or more Congressional districts and thus get one electoral vote. It wouldn't take too much of a computer programmer to come up with a way to split California's 55 voters among all candidates who met a certain minimal level of support. Note that I am not in favor of a nationwide popular-vote election, since preserving each state's electoral votes limits electoral fraud in any state to that state's electors.

In larger states, say for those with 5 or more Congressmen, candidates would run either on a state-wide at-large ticket, or through a system of electoral lists in which each party or list wins a number of seats proportional to its votes statewide. That one needs some further thought, since it might eliminate or reduce the "localness" of your local Congressman.

Another idea - eliminate any office or financial advantage that Representatives or Senators get by party membership. They could still organize themselves as Majority or Minority/Opposition parties, but we taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for a fancier office and expanded staff budget for the Majority Leader.

Neither R nor D will support these ideas, since finishing second with some hope for the next election is better than just fading away.
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Nice list. I can tell you've put some time into thinking about this.
So in that spirit, my read is to implement this you'd need (like you said), enough legislators to Amend the Constitution. So close to 70 Senators and upwards of 300 in the House of Representatives. Otherwise the Courts would knock it down.

If I read you correctly what you really want to see is everyone's vote to count more. Well, at least the big change I'd guess you're going for is we'd no longer have battle ground states, or nasty voter suppression type moves... as your model would "fix" many of those problems.
 
tenacious said:
Yeah... why recognize problems and think of solutions when you can pretend you're a hick for Oceanside and complain (or are you now self identifying hillybilly again?)
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I like solution in the White House right now.
signed, "Hick for Oceanside"

How is that complaining?

Jesus H Christ! do people really pay you to write?
 
MEDIA AUGUST 17, 2017
Rush Limbaugh has an interesting theory on why the GOP allows 'leftists' to tear America apart
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Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh, during the Thursday airing of his nationally syndicated radio show, claimed that the GOP is standing aside while "leftists" destroy America.

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Limbaugh opened his segment with a direct shot to the media, in which he said, "The media is dividing this country and tearing it apart, and because of fear of the media, way too many on our side are unwilling to stop or even try to explain or oppose this."

"Identity politics," he continued, "which we have been focusing on in recent weeks — intensely in recent days — is the primary weapon being used to divide the country."

Limbaugh noted that "black people and white people who were never slaves are fighting white people and others who were never Nazis over Confederate statues erected by Democrats," and added that "somehow it’s all Donald Trump’s fault."

The radio host condemned mainstream media outlets like CNN, which he claimed only spin stories, and speak out of the sides of their mouths, in order to sabotage the GOP, Republicans, conservatives, and the Trump administration.

About CNN, Limbaugh added, "The questions continue to be asked, and as such, the Republicans have no brand. They have no credibility. They can’t get anything in their agenda done because they won’t condemn whatever went on in Charlottesville, or because they wish to condemn also the violence perpetrated by Black Lives Matter and the anarchists and the Antifa people and so forth. Which, if you do that, CNN and others just jump right down your throat as though you’re a bigot and a racist for daring to point out that the violence everywhere in this country often starts by people on the left. And not only is the violence in this country often started by people on the left, they are the sole practitioners of the violence in 99% of protests."

"Ninety-nine percent of protests you don’t even see the Republicans showing up," Limbaugh said. "It’s a relatively new phenomenon that opposition to the left is showing up at protests. But it still isn’t mainstream Republicans showing up. They just don’t do it. And it isn’t mainstream conservatives showing up to protests. You disagree with the premise, 99% of all violent protests and riots in this country start and are engineered and practiced by the left?"

About the response to Trump's remarks about the Charlottesville terror attack, Limbaugh said, "It was a genuine unhinged hysteria from all over the place, in the Drive-By Media and in Washington. And however the media goes is how the Republican Party is gonna go."

Not to leave out the GOP, Limbaugh claimed that many Republicans jump ship on Trump anytime the mainstream media set their sights on the Trump administration.

"Media goes crazy on Trump, Republicans say, 'Oh, God, there goes our brand. Oh, jeez. We’re never gonna win again.' And they abandon Trump publicly," he explained. "But in their case, they really do. They then go silent. And there isn’t any push-back against any of this, and the problem there is the push-back is not just against Trump.

What the media is doing is not just to Trump. They’re dividing the country, and they are smearing everybody who is not a left-winger or a Democrat or an activist. They’re smearing everybody. They’re smearing talk radio. They’re smearing people that voted for Trump. They are smearing elected Republicans, Republican staff, doesn’t matter where they are, everybody’s being smeared here."

Limbaugh concluded with a suggestion of his own for the Republicans.

"If I may be bold here, if I may be helpful, Republicans, the idea here that you fear damage to your brand? You’re about 30 years late in realizing this, and the reason that you have ongoing fear of your brand is that for the first time it somebody’s fighting back against these allegations, and that’s what’s making you nervous," he blasted. "You’ll note that it’s Donald Trump fighting back against all this that’s really what makes the Republicans nervous."

"For 30 years, the Democrats have been able to call Republicans anything with impunity — racist, bigot, sexist, homophobe, and add on to that — and there’s been never any pushback," Limbaugh said. "All there is, is Republicans trying to kiss up to the media so that they individually are not included in the smear. Well, this is what pushing back looks like, just like this is what trying to strip power away from the establishment looks like."

He added, "This is what it looks like when you push back. It was never gonna be easy, and it was never gonna be pretty. Somebody is trying to save the Republican brand by defending it against all of these smears: Racism, sexism, bigotry, homophobia. Too many Republicans have been conditioned to go along with the allegation and to ask for exemption from it."
 
Ricky Fandango said:
I like solution in the White House right now.
signed, "Hick for Oceanside"

How is that complaining?

Jesus H Christ! do people really pay you to write?
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You just seem like a complainer to me. That's the complaining I'm taking about.
Nobody pays me to write as I'm a video editor? Although the last few shows I worked on have been pulling 2.0+'s on cable tv. People will certainly pay for that though...
 
tenacious said:
You just seem like a complainer to me. That's the complaining I'm taking about.
Nobody pays me to write as I'm a video editor? Although the last few shows I worked on have been pulling 2.0+'s on cable tv. People will certainly pay for that though...
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That makes sense to me.
I thought you said awhile back you were some kind of writer.
I was gonna find out who your boss was and steal your job.
Video editor makes more sense.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
That makes sense to me.
I thought you said awhile back you were some kind of writer.
I was gonna find out who your boss was and steal your job.
Video editor makes more sense.
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I do have BA in English with a writing emphasis.
Words or video... most of the conventions are the same. Just a matter taking the time to learn them.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
I was just kidding about stealing your job.
I like my job.
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Good to hear. I'm happy that you're happy. Or to channels some Willie Nelson:
Momma don't let you babies grow up to make tv.
Let them be doctors, lawyers or plumber kings...
Don't let them play with those cameras and lights,
or to learn Media Composer.

(did you see what I did there?)
 
How’s that wall doing?
At Least 14 Illegal Aliens Amongst 22 MS-13 Gang Members Charged with Murderous Machete Attacks
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At least 14 of the 22 MS-13 gang members charged with murdering victims with machetes came to the United States as illegal aliens, Breitbart News can confirm.

Last week, 22 Los Angeles-based members of the violent El Salvadorian MS-13 gang were arrested and charged with a string of gruesome murders that included cases where victims were allegedly hacked with machetes to death and had their hearts cut out from their chests.

Records obtained by Breitbart News confirms that of the 22 MS-13 gang members charged with the vicious murders, at least 14 came to the U.S. as illegal aliens. Thirteen of the illegal alien gang members came from El Salvador and one arrived from Honduras.

In multiple cases, the illegal aliens were ordered to be removed, petitioned to bring relatives to the U.S., were granted or denied work permits, attempted to get asylum, and claimed to be the victims of crimes.

Four of the 22 gang members were born in the U.S. and granted birthright citizenship, while another four have unconfirmed immigration statuses and are presumed illegal aliens until proven otherwise.

The case sheds light on how the MS-13 gang has been highly effective in smuggling its members and potential recruits across the U.S.-Mexico border and avoiding deportation by claiming asylum or petitioning for special immigrant visas.
 
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