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Slobodan said:
Yeah, we fully expect the cost of produce to go up. Seems worthwhile if you're going to stop working Mexicans like slaves.

Of course, you probably lose them as voters if they're working real jobs, for real money, and paying taxes. I don't imagine they like seeing their peers working 12 hour days, in 105-degree heat, for $20.
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Where and when has that happened?
 
espola said:
The US tomato market is so bad that while fields of ripe tomatoes are being plowed under in Florida because the growers can't find farmworkers to harvest them, my son bought near here a package of cherry tomatoes on the vine that were grown in Canada. Canada has a famously short growing season -- the best agricultural climate is north of Lake Erie, so it's like Michigan's climate at best. The Canadians grow them in greenhouses year-round under closely-controlled temperature, watering schedule/humidity, and hours of "sun"-light. The crop, once harvested, is kept at a stable temperature throughout the storage and delivery cycles, thus preserving its ripeness and extending shelf life.

US tomatoes, where they can be harvested, have the advantage of a short delivery time, effectively eliminating the need for controlled storage. The current problem is finding the farmworkers.

What is even worse for American growers is that Mexican growers use much the same growing systems as the Canadian growers do -- but for different reasons. The Mexican climate favors plants that can thrive in hot and dry climate in some parts of the country, and hot and wet climate in other parts. Greenhouse tomatoes don't care what the climate is outdoors.
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I wonder what Canada pays their farm workers vs what we pay down here? (@Slobodan beat me to it but I figured I'd ask you since you know so much about how the harvest works in both areas.)
 
Here's a breakdown of some key minimum wage rates across Canada:
    • Federal: $17.75 per hour, effective April 1, 2025.
    • Alberta: $15.00 per hour.
    • British Columbia: $17.85 per hour.
    • Manitoba: $15.80 per hour, with an increase to $16.00 on October 1, 2025.
    • Ontario: $17.20 per hour, with an increase to $17.60 on October 1, 2025.
    • Québec: $16.10 per hour (or $12.20 for tipped employees).
    • New Brunswick: $15.65 per hour.
    • Newfoundland and Labrador: $15.60 per hour, with an increase to $16.00 on April 1, 2025.
    • Northwest Territories: $16.05 per hour, with an increase to $16.70 on September 1, 2025.
    • Nova Scotia: $15.70 per hour.
    • Nunavut: $19.00 per hour.
    • Prince Edward Island: $16.00 per hour.
    • Saskatchewan: $14.00 per hour.
    • Yukon: $17.59 per hour.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Here's a breakdown of some key minimum wage rates across Canada:
    • Federal: $17.75 per hour, effective April 1, 2025.
    • Alberta: $15.00 per hour.
    • British Columbia: $17.85 per hour.
    • Manitoba: $15.80 per hour, with an increase to $16.00 on October 1, 2025.
    • Ontario: $17.20 per hour, with an increase to $17.60 on October 1, 2025.
    • Québec: $16.10 per hour (or $12.20 for tipped employees).
    • New Brunswick: $15.65 per hour.
    • Newfoundland and Labrador: $15.60 per hour, with an increase to $16.00 on April 1, 2025.
    • Northwest Territories: $16.05 per hour, with an increase to $16.70 on September 1, 2025.
    • Nova Scotia: $15.70 per hour.
    • Nunavut: $19.00 per hour.
    • Prince Edward Island: $16.00 per hour.
    • Saskatchewan: $14.00 per hour.
    • Yukon: $17.59 per hour.
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And yet people here want $30 to work at McDonald's and they can't even pour me a drink without overfilling it and soda coming out the top of the lid when I put my straw in.
 
pewpew said:
What part of @Slobodan's post are you questioning? The expectation that costs will rise? Or the working conditions?
The scary part is you aren't asking a rhetorical question..it's something you probably actually believe.
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What part am I questioning? There are so many weaknesses -- to wit:

How about Canada, USA or Mexico (not specified in slobo's rant)?

How about farmworker working hours in those countries? Overtime? Holidays? Weekends?

The "$20" is unspecified as to length of work required to get it. Hour? Day? Month?

How about temperature scale (°C? °F? °K? °R?)?

How about farmworker benefits in those countries? Health insurance/healthcare? Retirement pensions?

How about legal status of farmworkers in those three countries?

Probably? I believe that slobo (and perhaps you) are ignorant enough to ask poorly-formed questions and/or rants.

Pointless aside -- have you seen the video where t admits to "owning" his workers in Maralago, in his construction business, in his hotels, or in his golf courses (both foreign and domestic)?
pewpew said:
What part of @Slobodan's post are you questioning? The expectation that costs will rise? Or the working conditions?
The scary part is you aren't asking a rhetorical question..it's something you probably actually believe.
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Recycling an old FB post from 2019 --

Is Pence Vance paying attention? Does he understand his duties under the 25th Amendment, Section 4?
 
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They & Them and the Captors all lied to you guys 100% about the mask, 6 feet stay away, wash hands and take all their poison jabs. espola supported and preached their lies and still has not owned his lies. Let's see what happens next.

Health officials downplayed data on natural immunity, misrepresented study, never updated findings​

Senior health officials responsible for the pandemic response mischaracterized an early study on COVID immunity, downplayed natural immunity data and never updated messaging about natural immunity vs. vaccination because it would be “too costly” not to.

Fauci and Frances knew, but said nothing​

The internal communications between senior officials, including Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins, seem to show that the COVID-19 response team recognized that the Israel-based study found natural antibodies from a previous coronavirus infection provided longer-lasting protection against reinfection than a vaccine dose, which contradicted what officials claimed earlier that month: that vaccines provide better protection than those natural antibodies.

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Dr. Frances and Dr Fauci, faces you can't trust. I tried so hard to warn all of you and I seem to be one of the few WHO is more upset than the one's WHO took the poison. Wake up folks, these people need to be severely punished. I lost good friends from cardiac arrests and now a few have cancer and blood clots.
 
"History Books Will Remember This Moment.
They (& Them) Have Done Everything To Keep Boss and Putin Apart." Anon

“The New World Order Worships Satan”
Vladimir Putin

Like I told watty many times, it doesn't matter what he, me or we believe, it's what they & them believe and believe me, they & them love & worship Satan and do extreme evil on children and use bribes and blackmail to get dumb humans to do as told or else.

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"A great and very successful day in Alaska! The meeting with President Vladimir Putin of Russia went very well, as did a late night phone call with President Zelenskyy of Ukraine, and various European Leaders, including the highly respected Secretary General of NATO. It was determined by all that the best way to end the horrific war between Russia and Ukraine is to go directly to a Peace Agreement, which would end the war, and not a mere Ceasefire Agreement, which often times do not hold up. President Zelenskyy will be coming to D.C., the Oval Office, on Monday afternoon. If all works out, we will then schedule a meeting with President Putin. Potentially, millions of people’s lives will be saved. Thank you for your attention to this matter!" President Trump

What will Zelenskyy be wearing for his visit?
 
watty is super happy with his new world order captors. You can have it all pal. enjoy the company you picked to play and sleep with. Yikes!!! I would run far away from this cult, but I understand they & them had control of the loot and purse strings and bought most of you. Run away if you can but I understand not wanting to lose the loot and credit score so many have worked hard for. Trust me, I know the feeling all too well.

Watch: https://1a-1791.com/video/fww1/1f/s8/2/a/L/P/_/aLP_y.caa.mp4?b=1&u=ummtf

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"Meet democrat Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice Kevin Dougherty.

He’s the brother of Philly union boss John “Johnny Doc” Dougherty, who’s in prison for stealing $600,000 from his own union.

👉Justice Dougherty allowed mail-in ballots to be received 3 days AFTER Election Day in 2020👈" Scott

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