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[whatithink]

Wait... an adulterer in D.C. concerns you?

Well, I didn't say that now, did I. Adulterers could be said to have certain character traits that are very telling, esp. repeat offenders, like
- serial liars
- no morals, integrity, ethics
- betray those they claim to love
- hurt those they do love if they have kids

Generally scumbags ...

 

[Slobodan]

Listen to Hank

First Guam, Now Home Depot: Rep Hank Johnson's Wild Immigration Fears Take New Turn

"First they came for Latinos outside of the Home Depot's trying to get work so they can feed their families. I didn't say anything about it because I'm not a Latino at the Home Depot."

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For fuck sake... this guy HAS to be in the 50% from both parties that needs to be evicted from this planet. What a fucking moron.

Maybe one day a democrat can explain to me why allowing an illegal alien to stand outside a Home Depot everyday, or work 12 hour days, sitting on a HOME DEPOT BUCKET in 109-degree heat, picking garlic in the fields for $20 a day, is "humane" and can be easily remedied by inviting 15,000,000 MORE illegal aliens here. Somewhere, somehow, some liberal fucktard should be able to explain that to me.

 

[Slobodan]

The smart choise?

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Seriously... did Trump bang your wife? Just come clean so we can all move on. These moronic memes you glean from "Libtard Monthly" get old.

 

[Slobodan]

Honestly, I've no idea what goes on in his head. Initially he got load$ based on the stock leap, now, not so much so. Some people just like the buzz and ego filling attention - he's not someone I'd claim to know how to classify, so .

Then let me ask you this, because neither of us are mind readers. Do you get the sense that he's got nefarious intentions? Other than not understanding how condoms work, would puts him in a rather large class of wealthy men in our country, have you detected anything that concerns you? Other than being on some kind of spectrum? I mean, I can't even say that about Trump. Clearly he's got a massive ego and always has, but Musk? Really?

 

[Slobodan]

Well, I didn't say that now, did I. Adulterers could be said to have certain character traits that are very telling, esp. repeat offenders, like
- serial liars
- no morals, integrity, ethics
- betray those they claim to love
- hurt those they do love if they have kids

Generally scumbags ...

Okay well there is your "at least 50% of D.C." going ala carte or any combo plate.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

Interestingly we've just had the most aggressive audit with prejudice against/on the Federal govt spending and the result is a claimed $150B in savings on a $6T+ budget (claimed as some say its really maybe $50B, but lets use DOGEs numbers). So that works out to less than 3%, which is pretty good (for the fed bureaucrats) I'd say as this generally appears to be mostly choices.

I know there's lost of screams of "fraud" and "waste", but the former will need to be supported by court cases and the latter, to me, falls in the choices bucket.

All that said, it beggars belief that only $150B can be identified; and it doubly beggars belief that the GOP is proposing to blow both the structural deficit out of the water and the national debt in the next few months.

The price we pay to save that amount is the issue.

 

[Slobodan]

Holy Shezzles. Michelle has finally come clean.

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Warms Big Mike and her pecker.

 

[kickingandscreaming]

Amen. My favorite line of the title is, "... Biden's decline, its cover up..."

Cover up? Seriously? It's not possible to miss that decline.

"That's absolutely shocking"! - Sincerely, nobody

I blame it on education. I'm not even talking about not teaching the horrors of Marxism. I'm talking about grown-ups not understanding the lessons of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" and "The Emporer's New Clothes".

 

[watfly]

Well, I didn't say that now, did I. Adulterers could be said to have certain character traits that are very telling, esp. repeat offenders, like
- serial liars
- no morals, integrity, ethics
- betray those they claim to love
- hurt those they do love if they have kids

Generally scumbags ...

Unfortunately, its not uncommon for our Presidents to have had affairs.

 

[espola]

I don't disagree, and it's also an issue that I assume NASA was trying to solve by giving contracts to Boeing, i.e., if NASA isn't doing it, then they need multiple private sector companies to compete for the business.

NASA has been hiring private contractors since the days of von Braun.

 

[whatithink]

Then let me ask you this, because neither of us are mind readers. Do you get the sense that he's got nefarious intentions? Other than not understanding how condoms work, would puts him in a rather large class of wealthy men in our country, have you detected anything that concerns you? Other than being on some kind of spectrum? I mean, I can't even say that about Trump. Clearly he's got a massive ego and always has, but Musk? Really?

I genuinely believe that there is narcissism and ego at play. I think he loves being in the spotlight and loves the influence that he can bring to bear. When you have the richest man in the world telling elected officials to shut up or they will be primaried and he will pay for it ... that's concerning.

I think you know that I am 100% on, that we are spending too much and need to sort out the shit show that is our government, both parties included. So, while I agree with the idea that we should be critically looking at every $ we spend and cutting excess everywhere, and taking some pain in doing that, as there will be pain; I do not believe or think that "move fast and break things" is a practical or intelligent approach to that objective.

I've also worked in the private sector all my career and know that you do not cut yourself to success. If we are treating government like a business then there's not a single business person who would propose cutting revenue while we are spending more than we earn, never mind increasing spending and cutting revenue concurrently - that's just fucking stupid on a scale of stupidity that beggars believe -from a party that claims to be all in on DOGE.

If I were Musk, and assuming he is sincere, and given his pulpit, I'd be calling out them all as hypocrites ... but no, $2T .. $1T .. $160B .. maybe

 

[espola]

Remember Little e saying the Laptop from Hell was false information.

I don't remember that. Maybe you can show me where.

 

[whatithink]

NASA has been hiring private contractors since the days of von Braun.

For sure, and producing amazing products like Teflon etc. In this instance, SpaceX seems to be the only viable company in town, which isn't great for NASA if they want to manage costs.

 

[whatithink]

The price we pay to save that amount is the issue.

To save $150B? In 2018 the budget was about $4T, in 2024 it was $6.75T. Think about that. It increased 50% in 6 years. That's absolutely insane. If only $150B can be identified as savings, there is something very seriously fucked up going on.

We are borrowing close to $2T per year. We are paying close to $1T in interest alone.

We are way past the "price we pay" point. We are fucking our kids and grand kids.

Budget

Fiscal Year	Receipts ($ Trillion)	Outlays ($ Trillion)	Deficit/Surplus ($ Trillion)
2016	3.27	3.85	-0.58
2017	3.32	3.98	-0.66
2018	3.33	4.11	-0.78
2019	3.46	4.45	-0.98
2020	3.42	6.55	-3.13
2021	4.05	6.82	-2.77
2022	4.90	6.27	-1.38
2023	4.44	6.13	-1.69
2024	4.92	6.75	-1.83

National debt

Fiscal Year	Total Public Debt Outstanding (USD Trillions)
2016	$19.57
2017	$20.25
2018	$21.52
2019	$22.72
2020	$26.95
2021	$28.43
2022	$30.93
2023	$33.17
2024	$36.22

Interest payments

Fiscal Year	Interest Payments (USD Billions)
2016	$432
2017	$458
2018	$523
2019	$574
2020	$522
2021	$352
2022	$476
2023	$659
2024	$881

 

[crush]

I don't remember that. Maybe you can show me where.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

To save $150B? In 2018 the budget was about $4T, in 2024 it was $6.75T. Think about that. It increased 50% in 6 years. That's absolutely insane. If only $150B can be identified as savings, there is something very seriously fucked up going on.

We are borrowing close to $2T per year. We are paying close to $1T in interest alone.

We are way past the "price we pay" point. We are fucking our kids and grand kids.

Budget

Fiscal Year	Receipts ($ Trillion)	Outlays ($ Trillion)	Deficit/Surplus ($ Trillion)
2016	3.27	3.85	-0.58
2017	3.32	3.98	-0.66
2018	3.33	4.11	-0.78
2019	3.46	4.45	-0.98
2020	3.42	6.55	-3.13
2021	4.05	6.82	-2.77
2022	4.90	6.27	-1.38
2023	4.44	6.13	-1.69
2024	4.92	6.75	-1.83

National debt

Fiscal Year	Total Public Debt Outstanding (USD Trillions)
2016	$19.57
2017	$20.25
2018	$21.52
2019	$22.72
2020	$26.95
2021	$28.43
2022	$30.93
2023	$33.17
2024	$36.22

Interest payments

Fiscal Year	Interest Payments (USD Billions)
2016	$432
2017	$458
2018	$523
2019	$574
2020	$522
2021	$352
2022	$476
2023	$659
2024	$881

The meaning was, is the price worth the meager savings.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doge-c...lon-musk-department-of-government-efficiency/

 

[whatithink]

The meaning was, is the price worth the meager savings.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doge-c...lon-musk-department-of-government-efficiency/

I don't agree with the approach. Clinton cut nearly 500K fed employees. But it took years and lots of consultation. It was successful and beneficial, just low energy, low PR impact, high effectiveness. It was a smart approach, and did not impact on the ability of government to provide services to citizens, like their purpose kind of thing.

That said what is the price, that's kind of undefined at the moment. USAID is pretty obvious, and a chunk of the savings. Who cares if some kids in Sudan starve to death because we cut off aid, right? Its only lives and we don't believe in the right to life once you are born, so .

Maybe we should look at the DoD and ask why the budget has gone up nearly $200B alone in 6 years, like huh! All good though Hegseth is on it and he has a history of managing complex budgets and driving efficiencies and ... oh wait, that's in his dreams ...

Fiscal Year	DoD Budget (USD Billions)
2016	$585.3
2017	$606.0
2018	$686.1
2019	$686.1
2020	$721.5
2021	$705.4
2022	$740.5
2023	$773.0
2024	$842.0

 

[whatithink]

I don't agree with the approach. Clinton cut nearly 500K fed employees. But it took years and lots of consultation. It was successful and beneficial, just low energy, low PR impact, high effectiveness. It was a smart approach, and did not impact on the ability of government to provide services to citizens, like their purpose kind of thing.

That said what is the price, that's kind of undefined at the moment. USAID is pretty obvious, and a chunk of the savings. Who cares if some kids in Sudan starve to death because we cut off aid, right? Its only lives and we don't believe in the right to life once you are born, so .

Maybe we should look at the DoD and ask why the budget has gone up nearly $200B alone in 6 years, like huh! All good though Hegseth is on it and he has a history of managing complex budgets and driving efficiencies and ... oh wait, that's in his dreams ...

Fiscal Year	DoD Budget (USD Billions)
2016	$585.3
2017	$606.0
2018	$686.1
2019	$686.1
2020	$721.5
2021	$705.4
2022	$740.5
2023	$773.0
2024	$842.0

You have to wonder where all the money is going and on what. We're not fighting anyone and haven't been for a long time now ... so why is is constantly going up and why do we have to increase it further, weird?

Fiscal Year	Total DoD Budget	External Spending (Contractors & Vendors)	Internal Spending (Personnel & Operations)
2010	$721.5B	~$370B (51%)	~$351.5B (49%)
2011	$717.0B	~$365.7B (51%)	~$351.3B (49%)
2012	$681.0B	~$347.3B (51%)	~$333.7B (49%)
2013	$610.0B	~$311.1B (51%)	~$298.9B (49%)
2014	$622.0B	~$317.2B (51%)	~$304.8B (49%)
2015	$598.0B	~$304.0B (51%)	~$294.0B (49%)
2016	$585.3B	~$298.5B (51%)	~$286.8B (49%)
2017	$606.0B	~$309.1B (51%)	~$296.9B (49%)
2018	$686.1B	~$350.9B (51%)	~$335.2B (49%)
2019	$686.1B	~$350.9B (51%)	~$335.2B (49%)
2020	$721.5B	~$367.0B (51%)	~$354.5B (49%)
2021	$705.4B	~$359.8B (51%)	~$345.6B (49%)
2022	$740.5B	~$377.7B (51%)	~$362.8B (49%)
2023	$773.0B	~$394.2B (51%)	~$378.8B (49%)
2024	$842.0B	~$429.4B (51%)	~$412.6B (49%)