Surf Cup's Fate

MrCruett said:
Or it could be more people are screwing in those counties than up north. Just a theory I'm testing. Give it a try. It might be the fix.
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Crush DM’ed me and said it’s because NorCal has a large population of predominantly boring, socially inept, tech people that are Howard Hughes’s in training therefore they naturally social distance and actually prefer it that way. Ok, Crush didn’t actually DM that to me, but he probably thought it.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Crush DM’ed me and said it’s because NorCal has a large population of predominantly boring, socially inept, tech people that are Howard Hughes’s in training therefore they naturally social distance and actually prefer it that way. Ok, Crush didn’t actually DM that to me, but he probably thought it.
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It's hard to catch covid when you program 84 hours a week and play first person shooters the other 84.
 
Grace T. said:
It's easy for the cops to catch a rave in the hollywood hills if they wanted to. It's much harder to catch a dinner party. You either have to shut down all transit and keep people out only for essential activities (the freeways are packed now in Los Angeles in the afternoon) which means shutting down the retailers and box stores and hollywood productions (doing that also allows you to constitutionally shut down indoor worship), or you have to police going door to door without a warrant. The police couldn't even shut down the dangy bros having their kegger next to my house.

You logic always leads you to Australia/New Zealand, whether you'll admit or not.
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I think my point is that your neighbors apparently would not think of cancelling their kegger, even with a police visit.

If that's the norm, no wonder closing restaurants wasn't enough.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Crush DM’ed me and said it’s because NorCal has a large population of predominantly boring, socially inept, tech people that are Howard Hughes’s in training therefore they naturally social distance and actually prefer it that way. Ok, Crush didn’t actually DM that to me, but he probably thought it.
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Lol! He might be right.
 
MrCruett said:
Or it could be more people are screwing in those counties than up north. Just a theory I'm testing. Give it a try. It might be the fix.
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If you think about it, to control the socialization aspect of things you'd have to tell anyone who isn't married or living together (but including anyone having an affair), that they can't screw for a 1+ years. Short of shutting down the highways and permitting only supermarkets, pharmacies and medical visits, I don't know how you do it. Even Fergueson, the architect of the lockdowns himself, couldn't do it for a few weeks during the first round of lockdowns.
 
Grace T. said:
If you think about it, to control the socialization aspect of things you'd have to tell anyone who isn't married or living together (but including anyone having an affair), that they can't screw for a 1+ years. Short of shutting down the highways and permitting only supermarkets, pharmacies and medical visits, I don't know how you do it. Even Fergueson, the architect of the lockdowns himself, couldn't do it for a few weeks during the first round of lockdowns.
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Let's not give the state government any ideas on this subject. ;)
 
MrCruett said:
Lol! He might be right.
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Look, here's the truth about me. I snuck in this Matix by luck and some love. I come from deep Scottish Highlander Ancestry ((SHA!!!!)). My peoples land was stolen from them. We were raped and left to die. However, we snuck over to the Carolinas and made a life for ourselves. The other Scots hooked up with the Imperialist.
 
dad4 said:
If we all are doing our part, why is cell phone mobility only down 40%?

I understand the temptation to say "nothing works". After all, if nothing works, then we can get rid of all these annoying restrictions.

But there is a reason Riverside and San Bernardino each had over 2500 cases per million population, while every Bay Area county was at 1000 or less.

It isn't seasonality- RC and SB have more daylight and less cold than we do.
It isn't density- RC and SB are less dense than the bay area.
It isn't seroprevalence- RC and SB have more built up immunity than we do.

I suspect it is behavior. Socal may just have more people holding small indoor gatherings. Which is part of why Grace hates the thought of fines for dinner parties, but I don't mind it. Its hard to imagine the police breaking up your party if you have forgotten what it is like to be at a party.
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Poverty rate for SB County is 17% and RC County is 15%. Bay area is 8% to 10%. Where you have higher poverty you have more people living in small quarters together.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Crush DM’ed me and said it’s because NorCal has a large population of predominantly boring, socially inept, tech people that are Howard Hughes’s in training therefore they naturally social distance and actually prefer it that way. Ok, Crush didn’t actually DM that to me, but he probably thought it.
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Apparently the virus can't pass through a hoody.
 
Keepermom2 said:
Poverty rate for SB County is 17% and RC County is 15%. Bay area is 8% to 10%. Where you have higher poverty you have more people living in small quarters together.
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Hand in hand you also have people out and about working then in person.

This is just speculation on my part but if you are working in person day in and day out you might also be more likely to socialize as well (the reasoning being well I might catch the damn thing at work anyway so why am I protecting myself during off hours)
 
Bro, thank you. It's not a mullet, its just Covid hair. I might be able to pull off a reverse mohawk, but not a mullet.

BTW what's up with the return of the mullet? Its comeback and now its cool?
 
Keepermom2 said:
Poverty rate for SB County is 17% and RC County is 15%. Bay area is 8% to 10%. Where you have higher poverty you have more people living in small quarters together.
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I believe that socioeconomic factors are the biggest determinant of Covid infections and deaths.
 
watfly said:
Bro, thank you. It's not a mullet, its just Covid hair. I might be able to pull off a reverse mohawk, but not a mullet.

BTW what's up with the return of the mullet? Its comeback and now its cool?
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What do you mean? It never left and is always cool... said the hick from the sticks.
 
Grace T. said:
Hand in hand you also have people out and about working then in person.

This is just speculation on my part but if you are working in person day in and day out you might also be more likely to socialize as well (the reasoning being well I might catch the damn thing at work anyway so why am I protecting myself during off hours)
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When I was watching some of the press conferences that included information about low income areas, the number one problem was education on the virus and how it spreads. I talked to one guy a couple of months ago that thought he got COVID from sleeping with the window open. This guy has a reasonable intelligence yet he clearly didn't know how Covid is spread after 6 months in the pandemic. He also was letting his daughter carry on with life because her symptoms were gone.

The woman that I listened to early on in the pandemic said a lack of education was a huge problem in the low income areas yet she was struggling getting the state government organizations to listen and do anything about it. I had to stop listening because the absolute stupidity from our State leadership became depressing to me.
 
Tom is all stressed trying to get his movie finished. I bet you 100% soccer is safer. Look at how he treat his peeps. Tikes, what a mean old man. Sounds like another EOTL to work for.

In the leaked audio, Cruise called the set of the film the "gold standard" of shooting amid pandemic conditions.

"We are creating thousands of jobs you motherf--kers," he shouted. "I don't ever want to see it again. Ever. And if you don't do it, you're fired, and I see you do it again, you'r fe--king gone."

Tough work conditions. First off, why the heck is he in such hurry to get movie finished? This is crazy.....
 
Keepermom2 said:
When I was watching some of the press conferences that included information about low income areas, the number one problem was education on the virus and how it spreads. I talked to one guy a couple of months ago that thought he got COVID from sleeping with the window open. This guy has a reasonable intelligence yet he clearly didn't know how Covid is spread after 6 months in the pandemic. He also was letting his daughter carry on with life because her symptoms were gone.

The woman that I listened to early on in the pandemic said a lack of education was a huge problem in the low income areas yet she was struggling getting the state government organizations to listen and do anything about it. I had to stop listening because the absolute stupidity from our State leadership became depressing to me.
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It's hard to convince people there's an emergency unless you behave as such. First there were the protests....yeah yeah yeah it's a first amendment activity but you had a lot of health care people and politicians joining in too. There was Trump, who for his own reasons has always downplayed COVID and then who caught it (and recovered). Then there's all the D politicians asking people not to socialize for thanksgiving but who then go out and do it. And you have the working classes having to go work in person and all the stores open. Then you go to them and say "we're in an emergency" and they say "really, it doesn't look that way". We even keep saying the hospitals are going to be overwhelmed but it's not like over the last 6 months we've built up emergency care facilities (despite hearing all the talk about a winter surge since the beginning of the summer), we don't have the state setting up state triage centers (like they did in NY at the beginning of the crisis) or opening up the hospital ship.
 
Grace T. said:
It's hard to convince people there's an emergency unless you behave as such. First there were the protests....yeah yeah yeah it's a first amendment activity but you had a lot of health care people and politicians joining in too. There was Trump, who for his own reasons has always downplayed COVID and then who caught it (and recovered). Then there's all the D politicians asking people not to socialize for thanksgiving but who then go out and do it. And you have the working classes having to go work in person and all the stores open. Then you go to them and say "we're in an emergency" and they say "really, it doesn't look that way". We even keep saying the hospitals are going to be overwhelmed but it's not like over the last 6 months we've built up emergency care facilities (despite hearing all the talk about a winter surge since the beginning of the summer), we don't have the state setting up state triage centers (like they did in NY at the beginning of the crisis) or opening up the hospital ship.
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Yeah the hypocrisy and the restrictions that aren't supported by any data or aren't consistent just makes people hear blah blah blah even when something is important to hear.
I told my adult daughter that her dad Governor Newsom said she had a 10:00 curfew and her answer was....."Was that before he went to a party or after?!" I can guarantee you she didn't hear that from the news.
 
Grace T. said:
We even keep saying the hospitals are going to be overwhelmed but it's not like over the last 6 months we've built up emergency care facilities (despite hearing all the talk about a winter surge since the beginning of the summer), we don't have the state setting up state triage centers (like they did in NY at the beginning of the crisis) or opening up the hospital ship.
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Where would all the extra doctors and nurses come from? I know when it originally hit NY, a lot of medical people went there from around the country so they had a staffing influx. But now there are surges everywhere. You can build what you want, but it has zero value without the trained staff to run it and you can't manufacture them on any fast track.

London built (repurposed a building more like) a 4000 bed hospital early on, but only treated 51 patients before they closed it down. The meds there said they were nuts as they could never have staffed it, but it looked good.

Anyway, COVID was always going to spread, every lockdown has been and is about slowing it so that things don't get overwhelmed. Treatment has improved no end and fortunately vaccines are now rolling out.
 
whatithink said:
Where would all the extra doctors and nurses come from? I know when it originally hit NY, a lot of medical people went there from around the country so they had a staffing influx. But now there are surges everywhere. You can build what you want, but it has zero value without the trained staff to run it and you can't manufacture them on any fast track.

London built (repurposed a building more like) a 4000 bed hospital early on, but only treated 51 patients before they closed it down. The meds there said they were nuts as they could never have staffed it, but it looked good.

Anyway, COVID was always going to spread, every lockdown has been and is about slowing it so that things don't get overwhelmed. Treatment has improved no end and fortunately vaccines are now rolling out.
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They said on the news yesterday that in California they were allowing hospitals to increase the ICU patient to nurse ratio from 2:1 to 3:1. Sounds like a desperation move. SD County at least has ICU beds available.
 
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