Surf Cup's Fate

kickingandscreaming said:
www.forbes.com

Biden Predicts 250,000 More Coronavirus Deaths, Urges Americans To Stay Home Over Holidays

You cannot be travelling during these holidays, as much as you want to,” the president-elect said.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

I have misread before, but didn't Redfield say 450,000 through the end of February?

"On Wednesday, Redfield said the U.S. could see 450,000 deaths over the next three months"
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I think he was saying the total could hit 450K by Feb. 60K per month for 3 months, plus those who have died already.

”However, accounting for an upwards trend gaining momentum through November, Redfield’s projection is that nearly 60,000 new deaths will be reported during each of the next three months, meaning just over 2,000 Americans will die each day.”
 
MSK357 said:
Im asking you. You seem to know that 85% backed out. that is a very specific percentage. It gives the appearance that you know who have backed out of the number of teams accepted. please share who those clubs are since you say they were posted here. or else please clearly state its your assumption based on a few posts.
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Have it your way. A shit load of teams have backed out. A few are still in.

Is your kid’s team going?
 
kickingandscreaming said:
www.forbes.com

Biden Predicts 250,000 More Coronavirus Deaths, Urges Americans To Stay Home Over Holidays

You cannot be travelling during these holidays, as much as you want to,” the president-elect said.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

I have misread before, but didn't Redfield say 450,000 through the end of February?

"On Wednesday, Redfield said the U.S. could see 450,000 deaths over the next three months"
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It does appear that the two articles (both from Forbes) have different information included. While not necessarily conflicting, the numbers could obviously have used some context such as a range of values to better represent what Redfield was saying.

I can't get to yours anymore due to a paywall, but I saw where he talked about 200,000 through the end of February and I went to the link I used originally on the 2nd. The 450,000 number was pretty crazy, though. I wouldn't have blinked if he predicted 200,000 through the end of February.
 
Lavey29 said:
450 teams in the tournament so that is his 15%? Lol....guess there was 3000 teams in the tournament originally according to his great statistical info.
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That 450 is after they called up every rejected team and offerred them a spot. They still came up short.

Is your kid’s team going? If so, what club?
 
dad4 said:
I think he was saying the total could hit 450K by Feb. 60K per month for 3 months, plus those who have died already.

”However, accounting for an upwards trend gaining momentum through November, Redfield’s projection is that nearly 60,000 new deaths will be reported during each of the next three months, meaning just over 2,000 Americans will die each day.”
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Different links with different information - both from Forbes and both on the 2nd. That's an odd way to report. However, the link I list definitely states the following, which does not indicate the 450K is cumulative.

"On Wednesday, Redfield said the U.S. could see 450,000 deaths over the next three months"

If the article I saw would have said he expected 200,000 over the next 3 months, I wouldn't have blinked. It could just be sloppy reporting.
 
whatithink said:
The individual checks "only" totaled $300B, and obviously some of that went to those who didn't need it,
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And because our California government is incompetent (particularly the EDD), $2 billion in Covid unemployment benefits went to prisoners and other non-qualified individuals and because our Federal government is incompetent unknown billions of PPP has gone to businesses that didn't qualify.

www.latimes.com

California unemployment fraud amid COVID-19 pandemic may total $2 billion, Bank of America says

The bank, which has contracted with the state Employment Development Department to issue debit cards containing unemployment benefits, issued the warning in a letter to California legislators.
www.latimes.com www.latimes.com
 
watfly said:
And because our California government is incompetent (particularly the EDD), $2 billion in Covid unemployment benefits went to prisoners and other non-qualified individuals and because our Federal government is incompetent unknown billions of PPP has gone to businesses that didn't qualify.

www.latimes.com

California unemployment fraud amid COVID-19 pandemic may total $2 billion, Bank of America says

The bank, which has contracted with the state Employment Development Department to issue debit cards containing unemployment benefits, issued the warning in a letter to California legislators.
www.latimes.com www.latimes.com
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How about helping the Gym Guy? Dang, these guys open up a gym to help with everyone's health and they want them shut down for good. This is insane I say......
 
MSK357 said:
who are the 85% and who are the 15%? or is this your opinion?
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It's an opinion, likely stemming from accurate assumptions
MSK357 said:
Im asking you. You seem to know that 85% backed out. that is a very specific percentage. It gives the appearance that you know who have backed out of the number of teams accepted. please share who those clubs are since you say they were posted here. or else please clearly state its your assumption based on a few posts.
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Haven't we hashed this out about a gazillion posts before? What's up with the requirement for surgical precision? I thought this was safe place to share information without the requirement to testify in front of congress. And please don't reply that misinformation is being provided, cuz it's not. What you are getting is valid information from parents in those clubs that aren't going.

We can likely say, without having to cite sources that most of the NORCAL ECNL/GA teams aren't going. None of the MLS next teams are going (theirNOV event was cancelled in Tucson). Many of the SOCAL ECNL/GA teams aren't going - Surf is likely trying to send some team, but that's just them trying to carry the colors. Blues sound like they are dropping most teams. The AZ ECNL/GA teams aren't playing.

I know there is more to the soccer world than ECNL/GA/MLS, but for many it's the world we operate in. I know Surf attracts many very good top clubs that are not affiliated with one of the silly letter leagues. I have no idea, within that category, who is going and who has cancelled. I suspect many have backed out.

So yea, is Surf a go? Don't know. Will it look similar to what a normal Surf tournament looks like? Nope. If it happens, will your players play? Sure. Is it worth it? Up to you. If I were in your situation, would I go? nope.
 
dad4 said:
Just watching the posts here. So far, no one has said their club is going other than Surf and part of Blues.

Are you going? If so, what club?
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No, not going. Don’t have a club name yet but I was thinking about calling the club Turf. Our goal is to represent kids from the Bay Area trailer parks and ghettos. Funny how OC has all those great schools but don’t produce any stars. Oh yeah, did I mention that the white kids in Vallejo are “basket cases?
 
dad4 said:
That 450 is after they called up every rejected team and offerred them a spot. They still came up short.

Is your kid’s team going? If so, what club?
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Once again you make statements without any supporting facts. Just got done speaking with a friend whose team did not get accepted . According to your logic how is this even possible? You stated they called up every rejected team to fill spots and still came up short. My conversation with a friend whose team was rejected confirms you are just spreading false and misleading info again. I know big surprise right? You do a complete disservice to youth soccer on here and everyone should just ignore your meaningless posts.
 
MacDre said:
No, not going. Don’t have a club name yet but I was thinking about calling the club Turf. Our goal is to represent kids from the Bay Area trailer parks and ghettos. Funny how OC has all those great schools but don’t produce any stars. Oh yeah, did I mention that the white kids in Vallejo are “basket cases?
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Dre, OC is awesome and so is Nocal. It doesn;t matter where a kid is from. They need love and support bro. Dont get fooled by those Hollywood shows about the OC. This is the best place to live in America, MOO. I love the name, Turf FC. I can be, OC Crush FC. Bring it. We will kick your teams ass, that's all I can say. Also, why you going colors again on all of us? Let's stop that and just love each other and not label by colors like the virus. No religion or colors. We all come from all different places and ancestry. Scottish Highlands for me and all the abuse from guys like Randall ((EOTL)) and Cherokee for the wife. Her ancestry and my ancestry worked together for the common good.
 
Lavey29 said:
Once again you make statements without any supporting facts. Just got done speaking with a friend whose team did not get accepted . According to your logic how is this even possible? You stated they called up every rejected team to fill spots and still came up short. My conversation with a friend whose team was rejected confirms you are just spreading false and misleading info again. I know big surprise right? You do a complete disservice to youth soccer on here and everyone should just ignore your meaningless posts.
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are you going? what club?
 
dad4 said:
are you going? what club?
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Why don't you just wait until the schedule comes out and you can see all the clubs, since you're so concerned about who is going. Or maybe Surf won't publish the schedule to protect the identity of the evil, superspreader clubs.
 
dad4 said:
are you going? what club?
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Yep will be watching some great soccer. Gee, give you my club name so you can send emails to anybody and everybody complaining about our attendance and doing everything possible to create problems for my kids club? I tell you what though I'd love to meet some of you little sheep clowns face to face down there and see if you are still keyboard tough guys. I'm sure you little snowflakes wont even consider meeting me there face to face because you know you are nothing more then meaningless words on the internet.
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watfly said:
Why don't you just wait until the schedule comes out and you can see all the clubs, since you're so concerned about who is going. Or maybe Surf won't publish the schedule to protect the identity of the evil, superspreader clubs.
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Because it looks like someone is trying to sell people a bill of goods here.

Come to AZ and play Surf Cup. So you pay your insane fee and book your overpriced hotel. Then, when the team list is out, it looks like a silver level tournament in Barstow. You exposed your team and their families for nothing.
 
Lavey29 said:
Yep will be watching some great soccer. Gee, give you my club name so you can send emails to anybody and everybody complaining about our attendance and doing everything possible to create problems for my kids club? I tell you what though I'd love to meet some of you little sheep clowns face to face down there and see if you are still keyboard tough guys. I'm sure you little snowflakes wont even consider meeting me there face to face because you know you are nothing more then meaningless words on the internet. View attachment 9697
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Got it. Surf versus Blues in every final. Sounds exciting.

I’ll be rooting for that Beach team.
 
dad4 said:
Because it looks like someone is trying to sell people a bill of goods here.

Come to AZ and play Surf Cup. So you pay your insane fee and book your overpriced hotel. Then, when the team list is out, it looks like a silver level tournament in Barstow. You exposed your team and their families for nothing.
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There you go defaming a well known tournament with no factual basis. Just meaningless dribble.
 
dad4 said:
Because it looks like someone is trying to sell people a bill of goods here.

Come to AZ and play Surf Cup. So you pay your insane fee and book your overpriced hotel. Then, when the team list is out, it looks like a silver level tournament in Barstow. You exposed your team and their families for nothing.
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I'm skeptical that that's your true intent since you're not going, why would you care about the level of competition? That having been said, I sure hope people aren't making exposure related decisions based upon the level of competition, I would think you would feel the same way.

People have all sorts of motivations for playing and justifications for the price of things. If I was concerned about the level of competition its simple enough just to ask Surf who is confirmed for your bracket. If they won't or can't tell you then make your decision from there.
 
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