Surf Cup's Fate

kickingandscreaming said:
No, they’ll treat you like sh*t, same as always ;)
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Funny enough, this is one of the reasons why I think the Surf tournament org might be in more dire straits than we think. Incompetence aside, they have been much much friendlier than normal in their communications and they wouldn't do that if they were playing from their normal position of strength.
 
full90 said:
I don’t think soccer is an issue but for sure hotels are. Hotels are one of the top 5 spreaders. And like Everythjng else, it’s optics. If your hospitals are jam packed and health care workers and health professionals are begging the community for help do you want to be in charge of a city that invites out of state people in?
2,000 people a day are dying. Someone is spreading it.

My friend also has a daughter at surf and her coach is telling them they might not go. The parents on that team do not want to go so only like 4 girls have said yes. So sounds like it’s in flux at least for some surf teams.

will surf dilute their brand and bring in lesser clubs just to pull this off? Or is it just a bottom line fill the slots thing?
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well there are not any tournaments going on here or there right now and number of cases are up so they cant blame that on high school kids out in the fresh air.
 
Will Surf posted the list of teams attending? (An updated list?) I'm wondering if some clubs are still sending some teams- just not all they had initially planned, (like some teams backing out while others stay.)
 
Glitterhater said:
Will Surf posted the list of teams attending? (An updated list?) I'm wondering if some clubs are still sending some teams- just not all they had initially planned, (like some teams backing out while others stay.)
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When the schedules come out.

I've seen the updated list today, for the olders boys the competition I would say is average or slightly below typical surf level. The number of teams is down overall...instead of the typical 3-4 brackets likely just 2 I would guess. There is always some movement and last minute +- so will see but the record numbers from CA not happening this go around I would say.
 
Jose has returned said:
Sturgis had 450 k people and 88 covid cases. not so super spreader. small gathering of 12 has 11 test positive there is no rhyme or reason.
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You are comparing cars to horse drawn carriages. The rally in Sturgis brings in about $780M for the town. Surf will not. The rally is held every year in Sturgis, Surf has never been held in AZ.

What you fail to see is that this decision is likely not going to come down to the spread of the virus, but the potential denial of real dollars to cities across the Phoenix metro in the weeks and month after Surf is done. Scottsdale (and other cities) don't really cares about 3 soccer games for your kids (or my kids). They will tell you to go pound sand, chant the I've been put in chains slogan somewhere else - they have people in Lear jets who want to come and spend real money.

We had over 12K new cases today and ICU beds held steady at 10% remaining (which is normal for this time of the year). Fatality rate on infections keep falling but that's not how it gets reported. The local media hyper ventilates on cases. Health care leaders are worried about bed space for revenue generating patients. If this inches higher into the low 90s for ICU beds, I see something being done county wide to help stabilize bed space. It has to be done sooner rather than later in order to give the metro area the breathing space it needs to make money in JAN and FEB. The lowest hanging fruit is surf. They will cancel surf before they stop elective surgeries.

We also don't have an appetite for real lockdowns. Notice that the City of Phoenix closed fields. They didn't place additional restrictions on businesses, etc. The very ideals that the CA population is screaming for may very well piss you off the most. In order to not enact strict lockdown measures, they will go after the easy stuff - deny a small potatoes outside entity the ability to have an event. What heroes they will be, taking action.

You can still come and eat and stay, you just can't play organized soccer during a weekend that we normally don't play organized soccer. Which is fine, the golf courses are in great shape, play a round or two.
 
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