Surf cup throws in the towel...well kind of!

Heard some chatter today about D1 coaches NOT coming out for Surf Cup AZ....

anyone able to confirm and explain why not?
 
@futboldad. What makes you think the dead period will be extended? Yes there are rising cases on campuses as well as among teams. But that’s somewhat different than a sole coach boarding a flight to Phoenix... Or do you have better specific intel?

One of my buddies growing up is an established coach at a large D1 school..... his thoughts are it'll be moved to early spring and that date will finally stick...... he is only speculating based on his talks with other coaches....... but he did add that he thought the timing of Surf was the opposite of ideal and that he was not happy with Surf blasting "get seen first at our event" as it just needlessly adds to the panic and preys on the worry of families........

sorry.....nothing factual about an extension...... with C-19 hard dates are like rocking horse do-do......
 
One of my buddies growing up is an established coach at a large D1 school..... his thoughts are it'll be moved to early spring and that date will finally stick...... he is only speculating based on his talks with other coaches....... but he did add that he thought the timing of Surf was the opposite of ideal and that he was not happy with Surf blasting "get seen first at our event" as it just needlessly adds to the panic and preys on the worry of families........

sorry.....nothing factual about an extension...... with C-19 hard dates are like rocking horse do-do......
A huge wave is fast approaching and the warnings are loud and clear. The choice is clear and one has to decide how he or she wants the future to be. I was told by a buddy who is also a big coach and he said no way coaches are looking to travel during New Years. I'll leave it at that. Most want to go see a loved one first before they go find the next Mia.
 
A huge wave is fast approaching and the warnings are loud and clear. The choice is clear and one has to decide how he or she wants the future to be. I was told by a buddy who is also a big coach and he said no way coaches are looking to travel during New Years. I'll leave it at that. Most want to go see a loved one first before they go find the next Mia.

it seems like we had similar conversations...... many college coaches do not want to be traveling at Christmas & New Years period..... family, terrible weather across much of country...... the reasons can go on...... Surf should leave the tournaments in Az to the Az clubs, it is their state
 
it seems like we had similar conversations...... many college coaches do not want to be traveling at Christmas & New Years period..... family, terrible weather across much of country...... the reasons can go on...... Surf should leave the tournaments in Az to the Az clubs, it is their state
Some say the demand is high and the show must go on but the coaches I know said they haven;t seen a loved one in 8 months. Supply & Demand :)
 
it seems like we had similar conversations...... many college coaches do not want to be traveling at Christmas & New Years period..... family, terrible weather across much of country...... the reasons can go on...... Surf should leave the tournaments in Az to the Az clubs, it is their state

Surf cup should just call it a day and take their losses in 2020. California parents are already spending so much money going to AZ every month for tournaments. Must be nice to have the money to spend $800 to $1k going to these tournament. There’s an 09 team that has been going every other week to AZ for tournaments. I dont see how this eventually doesnt lead to burnout.
 
Surf cup should just call it a day and take their losses in 2020. California parents are already spending so much money going to AZ every month for tournaments. Must be nice to have the money to spend $800 to $1k going to these tournament. There’s an 09 team that has been going every other week to AZ for tournaments. I dont see how this eventually doesnt lead to burnout.
I dedicate this song to that 09 goat team :) Only crazy goats and their crazy parents would drive every weekend to AZ, You know what, I think I would but only during these times and only one season. If same next season, then we just move :)

 
Surf cup should just call it a day and take their losses in 2020. California parents are already spending so much money going to AZ every month for tournaments. Must be nice to have the money to spend $800 to $1k going to these tournament. There’s an 09 team that has been going every other week to AZ for tournaments. I dont see how this eventually doesnt lead to burnout.
09 travel teams are a money scam to start with. I think ECNL and now GA having U13 teams is a money grab and does nothing to advance the game of soccer in this country.

Clubs don't care about burnout, they rather like you to burn your dollars at the earliest age possible while working their pitch on the parents in pipeline. Simple sales model and effective on emotional customers.
 
it seems like we had similar conversations...... many college coaches do not want to be traveling at Christmas & New Years period..... family, terrible weather across much of country...... the reasons can go on...... Surf should leave the tournaments in Az to the Az clubs, it is their state
Pure speculation here but your conversations with your childhood friend are consistent with what I’m observing at my kids club. Recently, the coaches have been in contact and the younger players are on standby.

The older players (15-16) selected for the FIFA Mexico pilot have been promoted to the first team and are presumably preparing for U17 National Team camps. Some of the older girls (17-21) are preparing for the U20 world cup in January 2021.

I’d bet that US Soccer and colleges coaches are close to getting things back to normal too. Spring sounds about right to me.
 
Surf cup should just call it a day and take their losses in 2020. California parents are already spending so much money going to AZ every month for tournaments. Must be nice to have the money to spend $800 to $1k going to these tournament. There’s an 09 team that has been going every other week to AZ for tournaments. I dont see how this eventually doesnt lead to burnout.
I would have to agree with you, Surf needs to call it a day. At this point they are being disruptive to many.
 
I dedicate this song to that 09 goat team :) Only crazy goats and their crazy parents would drive every weekend to AZ, You know what, I think I would but only during these times and only one season. If same next season, then we just move :)


we’ve done 2 tournaments in Arizona over the last month.Third one next week. So far 2/2 Champs... so much fun to see them win. That’s a vacation for me. Traveling and seeing my daughter play soccer.
 
we’ve done 2 tournaments in Arizona over the last month.Third one next week. So far 2/2 Champs... so much fun to see them win. That’s a vacation for me. Traveling and seeing my daughter play soccer.
2 for 2 is incredible, especially on the road so much. You must go for the trifecta Luis. You're one crazy ass dad but hey, aren;t we all? I remember all the tournaments and it was a vacation with a rush of sports. Winning makes it funner.......
 
A year ago, when DA and DPL teams were taking a day off of school to travel to AZ/NV for league games - I thought it was ridiculous.. Escpecially for HS aged players that need grades for college.
But now- I've got no issue with any age or any level team taking a Friday and/or a Monday off so kids can play a game. Maybe it's because the definition of "school" has changed so much.
 
A year ago, when DA and DPL teams were taking a day off of school to travel to AZ/NV for league games - I thought it was ridiculous.. Escpecially for HS aged players that need grades for college.
But now- I've got no issue with any age or any level team taking a Friday and/or a Monday off so kids can play a game. Maybe it's because the definition of "school" has changed so much.
You can do school just like you can do work from anywhere. The great change is happening :)
 
Surf cup should just call it a day and take their losses in 2020. California parents are already spending so much money going to AZ every month for tournaments. Must be nice to have the money to spend $800 to $1k going to these tournament. There’s an 09 team that has been going every other week to AZ for tournaments. I dont see how this eventually doesnt lead to burnout.
Burnout? Even if they play a tournament every month, they still end the year with around 9 to 12 games.

Most likely, they’ll cut way back whenever league play returns. League + state cup + monthly tournament would be insane.
 
Burnout? Even if they play a tournament every month, they still end the year with around 9 to 12 games.

Most likely, they’ll cut way back whenever league play returns. League + state cup + monthly tournament would be insane.
Burnout will come in the form of parental burnout.
Even staying at a hotel that is "only" - $100 per night- the cheapest weekend of travel to AZ/NV/UT is gonna run you $500 (hotel, gas, food, etc). Maybe you can go lower budget by staying with friends/family and cooking your own meals. But that's still gonna "burn" you out. 12 hours round trip in a car is something I can only do every so often.
Plenty of OC families won't blink an eye spending big on a weekend - But there's a lot of players out there who won't be able to foot that bill or time off of work that often.
 
Burnout will come in the form of parental burnout.
Even staying at a hotel that is "only" - $100 per night- the cheapest weekend of travel to AZ/NV/UT is gonna run you $500 (hotel, gas, food, etc). Maybe you can go lower budget by staying with friends/family and cooking your own meals. But that's still gonna "burn" you out. 12 hours round trip in a car is something I can only do every so often.
Plenty of OC families won't blink an eye spending big on a weekend - But there's a lot of players out there who won't be able to foot that bill or time off of work that often.
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