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dad4 said:
Some tournaments, the rules encourage it. Surf is one of them.

If GD or GF is a tiebreaker but is not capped, then teams try to expand the blowout if they want to advance.

This is especially true if they are using the bad design for handling 2 groups of 3.
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I can understand the points thing, (I guess,) but it just seems pointless to me, (just my own .2,) to run up a score by that large of a margin when the other team has scored zilch. Again, just speaking for ulittle guys.
 
notintheface said:
Texts from friends-of-friends are that these are cobbled together from about half their A team, one quarter from their B team and one quarter from younger A players playing up. Lots of "this was a waste of time" flying around.
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Who are you picking to win the Girls Tournaments for 05-09? Do you see any big upsets out there?
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
So did all 3 teams for G2012 not show up? THey had 6 in that age bracket but it appears that only 3 teams played. They were better off cancelling that age group. I mean traveling to Surf cup for 8 /9 year olds??

2020 Surf Cup Phoenix (Youngers) December 27 - 29, 2020

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Schedule shows the game results. Two groups of three that played cross-group. One group lost all games one group won all games, but it appears that six teams played.
 
Scott m Shurson said:
The only thing flying around is your anti-Surf, negative bullshit.
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He went from belittling and talking crap about the Surf entity itself and now he is belittling and talking crap about young juvenile soccer teams. Pretty pathetic individual huh? He talks crap about the teams as he sits at home because his team was not good enough to even be accepted...lol...
 
Glitterhater said:
I can understand the points thing, (I guess,) but it just seems pointless to me, (just my own .2,) to run up a score by that large of a margin when the other team has scored zilch. Again, just speaking for ulittle guys.
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If you set up the rules correctly, it doesn't happen.

Some tournaments give negative tournament points for each GD over 8. So a 9-0 win gets you fewer points than a 4-0.

I'd prefer they just add a mercy rule. If you can get up by 8, you should just win. Use the rest of the time to scrimmage, if you like. But the game is clearly over.
 
Scott m Shurson said:
The only thing flying around is your anti-Surf, negative bullshit.
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The teams that opted out all are bummed but gave It careful consideration, weighed pros and cons. There’s not a team that bowed out out that said “ yeah this is griffin’ awesome that we can skip Surf Cup.
It’s not negative bullshit for those of us who decided not to go. It is a huge bummer.
Wish everyone well.

Don’t call it a best of the best because clearly it isn’t this time round.
 
Lavey29 said:
He went from belittling and talking crap about the Surf entity itself and now he is belittling and talking crap about young juvenile soccer teams. Pretty pathetic individual huh? He talks crap about the teams as he sits at home because his team was not good enough to even be accepted...lol...
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Not accepted? Pfffffff. You'd have to be pretty bad to be rejected this year.

Next year, it should be better again.
 
dad4 said:
If you set up the rules correctly, it doesn't happen.

Some tournaments give negative tournament points for each GD over 8. So a 9-0 win gets you fewer points than a 4-0.

I'd prefer they just add a mercy rule. If you can get up by 8, you should just win. Use the rest of the time to scrimmage, if you like. But the game is clearly over.
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Agree they should have some guidelines in place to negate blowouts which typically happen with the youngers. Incumbent on the coach to manage his team also and show some sporting respect for the other team that is getting killed. Simple stuff like no shots until 10 or 15 possession passes first.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
In the G09 bracket, socal teams are doing horrible. They might not have any of the 5 teams make it to the next roud. The boys 09 team, you have two NorCal teams in the final. The rest of the states are catching up. THere's also this thing of too many flight 1, ecnl, ecrl teams going on in Socal.
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so cal teams haven't been playing any games either and practices are handcuffed too
 
Lavey29 said:
Agree they should have some guidelines in place to negate blowouts which typically happen with the youngers. Incumbent on the coach to manage his team also and show some sporting respect for the other team that is getting killed. Simple stuff like no shots until 10 or 15 possession passes first.
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Coaches know how to do it.

But what coach is going to stop at 7 or 8 if pulling back will make his team lose a tiebreaker?
 
Giesbock said:
The teams that opted out all are bummed but gave It careful consideration, weighed pros and cons. There’s not a team that bowed out out that said “ yeah this is griffin’ awesome that we can skip Surf Cup.
It’s not negative bullshit for those of us who decided not to go. It is a huge bummer.
Wish everyone well.

Don’t call it a best of the best because clearly it isn’t this time round.
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Its just a slogan they have used for years they probably registered it too. I can think of other slogans that couldn't be further from the actual reality of what is going on
 
dad4 said:
Coaches know how to do it.

But what coach is going to stop at 7 or 8 if pulling back will make his team lose a tiebreaker?
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That's where your suggestion to have guidelines in place that negate the effect of running up the score past a certain margin.
 
I met a guy who knew nothing about soccer. Coached his daughter’s u9 AYSO team (volunteer dad). Figured out that an 8 year old keeper couldn’t kick the ball so he coached his team to storm her and score.
He bragged how they won every game 20-0 or whatever. Claimed it taught winners how to win...

Running up scores to prevail in a youth soccer tournament is dumb. It really doesnt help the game other than getting parents hooked so they‘ll keep paying for then next ten years...

Ps. AYSO banned him from coaching after one season.
 
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