I don't know if I would call it just yet. You may be right - many Cal North teams did look very impressive. And teams like De Anza in the past have always made things tough for us in SoCal. But it's still early. Time will tell.
Surf Cup - DA --- Accepted Teams
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chargerfan
GOLD
Was the b team still wiped from playing thise 2 games for their a team? They lost all 3 games this weekend.
GoWest
GOLD
Arsenal Brown. "Cocky" coach but plays well and seems to find a way to win when it counts IMO.
It may be hard unless he flies in people from Texas again lol
NorCal
SILVER ELITE
MVLA is doing well this year but don't forget they won Surf Cup last year in the '04 age group:
2-1 Solar Chelsea
1-1 LA Galaxy
1-0 IE Surf
1-0 Aresenal-Brown
2-0 DeAnza Force
2-0 Surf
shales1002
GOLD
He didn't win yesterday. He advanced because of goals forced differential. The second place team in the bracket did better than the other first place teams in the flight.The 2-2 score wasn't reflective of the actual game. Arsenal was down 2-0 and got physical. I mean PHYSICAL! One girl appeared to have a broken hand after game. It was brutal. Perhaps it was their tactic. Who knows...but MVLA is legit!
Hey I am a super fan don't get me wrong but all in all we have usually had a longer run for example Nationals championship Surf, REAL SOCAL in finals vs FWR, LAGSD getting a bid up there. I think you can say that pound for pound our schedule in Cal South is a stronger one than a CAN one.
All that is changing as I acnkowlegded but you won't see our strong teams anymore to be honest. You are playing our B teams at Surf right now. Our ECNL teams are WEAK.
shales1002
GOLD
@Striker17 what I have witnessed is the dilution. Cal North for the most part stayed ECNL. There are to many "top" clubs here. Blues GDA finished 6 or 7th place last weekend, and struggled this weekend. Strikers finished last in their bracket (correct me if I'm wrong). Arsenal, barely tied Heat yesterday. It will be interesting to see how Cal South figures this out. They don't look like the dominate force they used to be.
Yes sir that is my exact point. It may be the end of an era. Don't count us out though quite yet the top teams always have a trick or two up their sleeves!
Honestly I have my own feeling that we won't see a teams true form until Feb in my opinion. I feel that by that time also it won't matter because coaches will already be trying to replace GDA weak players with non GDA players who didn't make the initial move and are in their "post State Cup" or "pre ECNL playoffs and don't know what to do next year" mode. The weak links on GDA will be gone either because of coaches or the realization that 4 days a week is a lot to handle.
Then 2018-2019 will have Much stiffer competition again down here.
It's he way it is for the 04 though. We haven't had a normal season since 7. Every time we get excited about something it gets changed so we are all used to it by now
GoWest
GOLD
This is a Brown coached Arsenal team by nature. Tied or down at half-time he somehow gets the message across that players better step it up. Too physical @times for sure. Probably a few yellows and a red then in the second??
I think you mentioned that they will figure it out sooner or later? I agree with your position. It will take a bit of time but a balance will be found...hopefully MUCH sooner than later for Southern Cal ECNL teams / players.
They are weak right now- it's not personal it's factual. This weekend you saw Knotts and Rebels play a stronger game than Sharks ECNL heard through the grapevine. I can't imagine Strikers or Blues ECNL being strong because you have way too many DA clubs in the vicinity. Look at West coast ECNL relegated to he bottom of the flights and still not doing well.
Is anyone waking up yet or are we still in denial about ECNL at our age group..
shales1002
GOLD
It's both...ECNL and GDA based on the results thus far. Didn't a nor cal team win GDA flight last weekend? Honestly both groups look weakened.
GoWest
GOLD
@Striker17 I feel you. I dont like what I have seen so far in this age group or others from the SW ECNL conference.
GoWest
GOLD
GDA / US Soccer has really put the start of this season into a tailspin
One former powerhouse is telling parents "the DA isn't working" . I told those parents that's code for we can't get all the talent anymore at our teams not that the DA "isn't working". These salesmen were already selling ECNL for next year lol!
People need to keep their wits about them I sense the more desperate the clubs get the more lies that will spill forth. I cannot see US SOCCER giving up control though what's done is done
People need to keep their wits about them I sense the more desperate the clubs get the more lies that will spill forth. I cannot see US SOCCER giving up control though what's done is done
shales1002
GOLD
Remember that's what this was all about . Control! Honestly it isn't working. A choice will have to be made one way or the other.
Well I can't see US SOCCER saying "oh our bad here you go again ECNL maybe you can use our guidelines too?"
chargerfan
GOLD
Can we admit this is all craziness? ECNL teams that can hardly be called elite, DA teams that can not beat a top non-DA team, players on good flight 1 teams that do not belong. Girls soccer became a big money maker, and now everyone wants a cut so they are selling dreams to any girl whose parents have the cash. On almost every DA, ECNL, or good flight 1 team I have seen this year, there have been 3-4 real ballers and that is it. I know a lot of parents don't want to hear this because little Chloe is now on a flight 1 or ecnl or even da team this year but it is the truth.
Or maybe it IS working and now there is some parity across the West. Does USSDA care if So Cal or Nor Cal wins? They just care that they get better players in the National Team pool.
Is USSDA soccer about the BEST players or is it about the best players that will commit to 4 days of practice with the same coaches they already had.
Is USSDA soccer about the BEST players or is it about the best players that will commit to 4 days of practice with the same coaches they already had.