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Do not expect USYS to make the health of the players more important than the member clubs making money.
Surf Cup 2021 - Older Schedules up
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whatithink
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My kids have played quite a few Surf Cups, and coming from AZ, its always been no more than a pre-season event, with great competition, fantastic weather, and a new season gelling event. If they went deep, great, if not, so what.
We entered, knowing the format, number of potential games and $tay to play rules. Complaints from people who know all that because it doesn't suit them gets a "meh" from me.
You're on the money with roster size / guest players. Basically, you entered, now plan accordingly. If you think you're a contender, then make sure your roster size will cope and know that your coach will rotate appropriately. If not, then you don't need to worry about 5-6 games, just enjoy SoCal in July.
From the rules - $urf are more than generous, so if you have a short roster and are concerned about 5-6 games, its on you.
ROSTERS: U15 (2009) – U19 (2003) age groups can roster up to 26 players but only 18 players may be in uniform and participate in each game. U13 (2009) – U14 (2008) age groups can roster up to 26 players but only 18 players may be in uniform and participate in each game. U11 and U12 (2010 and 2011) age groups can roster up to 16 players and play 16 players per game U8 – U10 (2012, 2013 and 2014) age groups can roster, and play up to 14 players per game.
GUEST PLAYERS: Teams may use an unlimited amount of guest players as long as they are sanctioned under the same association as the rest of the team (USYS or US Club), but are still subject to the maximum roster size rules above. Meaning – guest players must have the same type of player card as the team they are guest playing for. If a team is using USYS player cards (from any state) then the guest player MUST have a USYS player card (and it can be from any state). If a team is using US Club player cards then the guest player must also have a US Club player card (US Club cards also include boys and/or girls ECNL player cards).
Instead of a governing body mandating what other kids can or can't do, how about those parents that do not want their kids playing that many games stay home? I understand the role of rest and recovery, and the concern about overuse injuries but I don't understand taking away the option for those who want to do it.
You are "wrong" because you want to impose your preferences on others.
ECNL was able to pull off a 5 games in 6 days event. Not saying cutting the Tournament format for a Showcase format. Rather better to add days if they want to keep a tournament format which is in the best interest of the health of our kids
whatithink
GOLD
I think the whole "best interest of the health of our kids" line is very melodramatic. If you are doing it every weekend, then sure that's not healthy. But if you are doing it every weekend, then that's your choice, not the tournament providers choice.
If you prefer the showcase format, then only enter showcases. There's loads of choice. You have a choice. You have the "power" to do it or not.
All this whining ...
And I can't believe I'm actually defending $urf. I'm must have entered the twilight zone and hadn't realized it
It was for effect for sure….not really whining as much as suggesting that there are formats that are done tournament style without having to play 2 games in a single day, after playing 3 days in a row.I think the whole "best interest of the health of our kids" line is very melodramatic. If you are doing it every weekend, then sure that's not healthy. But if you are doing it every weekend, then that's your choice, not the tournament providers choice.
If you prefer the showcase format, then only enter showcases. There's loads of choice. You have a choice. You have the "power" to do it or not.
All this whining ...
And I can't believe I'm actually defending $urf. I'm must have entered the twilight zone and hadn't realized it
We are 100% accountable for our own actions and teams such as ours will navigate the conditions just like everyone else.
How long are the Surf tournament games? I thought they shortened them to prevent injuries because they have multiple games.
I’m actually not sure.
For normal tournaments game are shortened a bit to get more in overall.
The single game a day, only 2 consecutive, one day rest in between is what could be followed but it would cost a lot more. MLS-NEXT attempted this format, so 5 games over 7 days.
For normal tournaments that is not really feasible due to the economics.
One season my son's team had 6 straight tourneys over a 5 month span@ 4-5 games per. Add in spring season + high school and was a ridiculous amount of games but his/their choices. Some suffering went down but few actual injuries, fatigue yes but I don't think he would trade those experiences to rest or prevent anything.
I thought it was truncated more. Semi and Finals should only be 30 minute halves since winners have to move on to finals in the same day. It would be nice to see the best teams win not the one with the deeper benches and hogging all the talented players to sit on their bench. We should encourage this in order to develop youth players on the field rather than have them spend time on the bench. The talented players should go out to other teams and stop sitting on long benches. Short benches are fine.