SBGCDALife
BRONZE
FRAM lost a very good center back to either Galaxy South Bay or Beach. I do not know of them losing any other impact players from last season.
Surf Cup 2019
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Eric the Actor
BRONZE
After watching the Silverlakes Summer Cup this past weekend I would say the Empire team has regressed to a Kick Ball style. They destroyed FRAM with some serious Kick Ball but were easily handled by the Slammers in the final. It was surprising to see because Empire played a great style in the past.
futbofan2019
BRONZE
I'm new to the soccer scene and its lingo. Is a "kick-ball" style a "kick the ball over the head of the foward and let them score"?
Soccermom5
SILVER
I was mainly going by YSR...Slammers at 51, EDA at 35, and Real Colorado at 45 Nationally.
And then in the bottom division, for whatever reason, they have Eagles at 19 and Fram at 28. Fram may play kick ball style of soccer, but how are they gonna have a #19 and a #28 nationally ranked teams in a bottom bracket?? They should’ve been placed higher.
SoccerSway
BRONZE
Not sure what game you were watching, Empire doesn't play kickball; maybe a case of matching the opponent's style of play at certain points of the game. Slammers playbook is the keeper punting the ball to their forward. We'll see how the Slammers team does in CRL; there were rumors that they might not even play since most players (or the better ones) had left, and there is no guesting at CRL. And what happened to Blues? Maybe this topic is for another thread.
Accurate in terms of the players added but you could debate the biggest addition is Craig Barclay as coach. Girls have responded to his coaching style quite well.
I just joined and have seen multiple posts from you bashing the Slammers. Why all the posts "slamming" the Slammers? lol
I have not seen every Slammer's game, but every game I've watched or refereed seems relatively possession-based. If we're being honest with ourselves, the reality is 08 is the age many kids have begun to outgrow the smaller field with punts easily reaching the forwards for all but the smallest goalies.
I also recently watched a FRAM 08 game at Silverlakes Summer Cup, and there was no kick ball until the end when they were desperately trying to even the score up. Was it pretty soccer? No, but when whatever you've tried all game doesn't work, you change it up. Even the pros do it out of desperation. It's a technique, really gets the opposing defenders involved, and makes for some nail biting watching given the reaction on both sidelines.
I wouldn't be surprised a few players left Slammers like almost all teams experience after State Cup, but you're wrong in that Slammers are in fact playing in CRL. Slammers are #1 in their bracket with the best goal differential, albeit 2 games in. Again, why all the bashing?
SARAH BELLA
BRONZE
Its called attrition... Thats what happens to any team i.e. the Blues. 3 straight cup championships. Players, family, growth development, new voice. Variety... you know what happens in southern California. And your talking about 11 year olds. Long living vicariously through 11 year old girls. Classic.
SoccerSway
BRONZE
It's not bashing if I'm just pointing out the obvious. No need to get defensive. This team that is in first place, is that the same team that played together last season? Is that the same team that participated in all the summer tournaments together? Did the coach develop all these players individually and as a team? All I'm saying is that at this age, developing a player is more important than finishing in first place thanks to players who were trained by other coaches. But hey, what do I know, I'm not the one shelling out big bucks for the big-club names.
Defensive? Not at all. Perhaps the response was a tad cheeky, but merely stating what I would assume most would see as obvious; a review of your recent posts reflect an individual who's clearly not a fan of the "bigger clubs" and seemingly directed at the "spammers".
You're also not pointing out the obvious, but mostly subjective (or at times incorrect) opinions of which you're wholly entitled yet open to critique. You inferred bigger clubs such as the Slammers "get away" with things in CRL when in actuality that was wrong as the rules equally apply to all. I could highlight more, but I'm sure we'd both agree that's fruitless.
In response to your questions, I don't have intimate knowledge of the Slammers team but have read/ heard things regarding some change. It never struck me as odd given it's a common phenomenon in socal club soccer.
Your last statement perplexes me. I think we all agree development is important, but should a coach not accept quality players that improve a team if a spot is open? Are you inferring players will no longer develop with another coach? Is an 8 year old under your ideal system bound to their first coach/ club, and if so, until what age? If no, then what are we missing?
SARAH BELLA
BRONZE
Read it contextually, as it was used the same way a business is run as there is attrition in any workplace.
Attrition is actually without looking in the dictionary unpredictable and uncontrollable, decrease in numbers, size, or strength... Used as a noun.
And a noun is a person, place, or thing which is a soccer team in this context, which was referenced, and the question was.... What happened to the team i.e (the Blues...)? The answer they lost players who were originally apart of the team. And were lost due to unpredictable and uncontrollable events such as different choices, avenues, parental direction, change of scenery you fill in the blanks and oh yeah as originally stated they are 11 years old. Kids. We were not talking about domination, but why they are not who they were as a team.
Let them play, be in the moment enjoy their play, way to serious and nobody will ever read this.
Just curious why you are saying "they are not who they were" thought you might have some insight. From what I've seen they are still quite strong and looks to be mostly same group of girls. I assume, like virtually every team, they lost then added players each year they won another state cup. So past "attrition" has not affected their results. Probably more parity in age group but they still appear to be at or very near the top in socal.
SoccerSway
BRONZE
I was under the impression we were talking about playing the team you developed as a coach. If as a coach you are known for teaching and developing your team, you should be expecting the players to want to continue to be in your team; so why do these teams "go through changes" every season? And no, no player should be bound to any coach they are not happy with, for any length of time. And no coach should come and try to poach players from other teams; but that's just another common phenomenon in socal club soccer.
SoccerSway
BRONZE
Now you sound ridiculous. How about we highlight the fact that Slammers, in all its variations of CDA's and FC's have 23, twenty three, girls teams in the 2008 group alone. Or that Legends have 11, and I'm not even going to go into all the Surfs. Do you honestly think that a team like Boca Jrs, or Empire, or South Valley can benefit from the free for all CRL "player pass rule"??? And to that point, Slammers is notorious for gaming the system; haven't really noticed it with Legends or Surf. So when you are taking credit for Slammers victories, just keep in mind that there are real teams out there who are playing with their own players.
Why do these teams go through changes every season? Please tell me you are feigning ignorance. Children (most likely their parents) make decisions to change teams/clubs all the time, even if their child is developing under their current coach. People move, financials, playing time, field position changes, friends/family moving teams, parental/teammate conflicts, quitting soccer, choosing another sport, development at a faster/slower pace than the team, and more.
Who cares about recruiting? If you agree that no player is bound to a particular coach or club, and you respect a family's personal decision(s) to choose what they think is best for their child, then relax and enjoy your own path. No one is forced to go or not go anywhere.
Outside you having the ability to do addition, none of that is relevant without facts. I am open to being wrong and having you show me otherwise with facts and not feelings, but here's what I know:
Fact: players may only be passed that are "rostered to their club" per CRL rule 4.03
Evidence: NL Pacific Conference Powered by CRL Conference Operating Policy’s Amended 4/15/2019
Fact: CDA Slammers are affiliates and not the same club as Slammers FC.
Evidence: HERE
Fact: Other smaller teams can benefit from the pass rule
Evidence: All teams can pass the same age and up. Empire SC has 2 girls teams per age bracket >> HERE; South Valley has 2 girls team per age bracket >> HERE; Boca JR LA has 2 G08 teams >> HERE (3 remaining groups only 1 requiring playing up, not sure on depth or signature/rec); Other posters in the CRL post cited the rule helping their team due to injuries.
If you respond with facts, I'm open to that, but beyond that I'm aware there is no changing your subjective opinion and wish you well.