I like that you said teach them. There needs to be more of that. You assume so much and interject tangents. And no not a transplant born and raised in SoCal.
Surf Cup 2016
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This is a Sting parent who is trying to make fun of SoCal. Keep boasting after the fact, at least the Chelsea Red parents boasted on this thread before they played any game and lost two. Anyway, if my girl plays 06 next year I will make sure to remind you about this.
Nothing funnier than a boasting parent of a 10 year old. Probably s/he has being a perennial loser, and takes over what the kid accomplishes. Karma can be brutal.
BlastFromThePast
BRONZE
Please turn in your drivers license and leave immediately. Yes we must teach them but only after we have carefully selected them. We need to return to our initial selection process. I don't care how long or how many times that you teach a tortoise to keep his head down when coming out of the blocks....he still won't grow up to be a hare.
BlastFromThePast
BRONZE
Relax Dr. Phil. I'm actually not a Sting Black parent at all but I do recognize a shift when I see one and I wanted to address the issue at hand with a little sarcasm. You know sarcasm is the truth with a smile right?
I am not sure why you keep redirecting your responses from my original question.
I doubt there was a SoCal coach or parent who lost of minute of sleep last night over the Dallas Sting winning Surf Cup. Kudos to Sting for the accomplishment. Giving up 1 goal over the entire tournament speaks volumes about the team's talent and ability to get results. However they did it, they got it done.
Aside from Sting, what happened to the rest of Texas at Surf Cup?
With regards to North Texas soccer vs. SoCal soccer, this is a fun, made for the board trolls rivalry. Personally, I'm excited that up that my kid gets to play the highest level soccer in the country week in and week out here in SoCal. Her team plays Galaxy, Legends, Beach, Strikers, Blues, Slammers and Surf (SD and Anaheim) every week throughout the year, not just once a year at Surf Cup. All of these teams have their own style of play and bring different levels of technical skill, physicality, speed and tactics to the table. Over the long term, I think that the health of SoCal soccer in the 2006 age group is in great shape.
One of my favorite parts of Surf Cup was watching my daughter bond with her teammates in the pool and BBQ-ing with a bunch of dads that I am just getting to know better. As the famous mountain climber Alex Lowe once said, the best climber is the one having the most fun. I try to apply that philosophy to my kids soccer experience. Sometimes I fail at that, but I'll keep trying.
Aside from Sting, what happened to the rest of Texas at Surf Cup?
With regards to North Texas soccer vs. SoCal soccer, this is a fun, made for the board trolls rivalry. Personally, I'm excited that up that my kid gets to play the highest level soccer in the country week in and week out here in SoCal. Her team plays Galaxy, Legends, Beach, Strikers, Blues, Slammers and Surf (SD and Anaheim) every week throughout the year, not just once a year at Surf Cup. All of these teams have their own style of play and bring different levels of technical skill, physicality, speed and tactics to the table. Over the long term, I think that the health of SoCal soccer in the 2006 age group is in great shape.
One of my favorite parts of Surf Cup was watching my daughter bond with her teammates in the pool and BBQ-ing with a bunch of dads that I am just getting to know better. As the famous mountain climber Alex Lowe once said, the best climber is the one having the most fun. I try to apply that philosophy to my kids soccer experience. Sometimes I fail at that, but I'll keep trying.
BlastFromThePast
BRONZE
I apologize. What was your original question?
I just wanted to know why we needed to put together a team to play Texas?
Found the answer to my question on the North Texas soccer board:
"There were 9 teams from NTX that went to Surf Cup last weekend. 1 team won the whole thing (Congrats Sting Black 06!), 1 team lost in the Semi Finals (Congrats Solar Chelsea 03) and 1 team lost in the Quarter Finals (Congrats SRSA 07). The other 6 teams could not get out of their brackets.
I love your optimism Skeets but those results do not say anything about NTX development. I would some it up as a pretty poor showing for NTX. Only 3 of 9 teams made it out of their brackets!!! As much as I love it for those 3 that advanced and especially for Sting Black 06 for winning, that was not a good weekend for NTX soccer."
If that is what sarcasm is, then what is bitter ignorance? It's no clear what truth you speak of?
Shift? What shift do you with YOUR expertise see?
Did you even see Sting play? They are one team. A handful of girls...their physicality and play speak for itself. If you watched them play, really watched them, then you can appreciate them for what they are, give them their due respect and leave it at that.
It seems you are bitter because they played "your game" better than your "Socal" team (whichever that is) and now your crying about it.
You make references to "itty bitty people", itty bitty people like Messi? or a handful of the best players in the world who are itty bitty?
I'm sure this will feed your rant...so feast!
BlastFromThePast
BRONZE
I "think" that I agree with you. Here is what excel saysFound the answer to my question on the North Texas soccer board:
"There were 9 teams from NTX that went to Surf Cup last weekend. 1 team won the whole thing (Congrats Sting Black 06!), 1 team lost in the Semi Finals (Congrats Solar Chelsea 03) and 1 team lost in the Quarter Finals (Congrats SRSA 07). The other 6 teams could not get out of their brackets.
I love your optimism Skeets but those results do not say anything about NTX development. I would some it up as a pretty poor showing for NTX. Only 3 of 9 teams made it out of their brackets!!! As much as I love it for those 3 that advanced and especially for Sting Black 06 for winning, that was not a good weekend for NTX soccer."
- 92 teams in the tournament
- SoCal (50, 54%), NorCal (18, 20%), TX (9, 10%)
- 5 champions crowned
- SoCal (3, 80%), NorCal(1, 20%), TX (1, 20%)
- 40 teams made it out of bracket play (%) of states teams entering the tournament
- SoCal (29, 58%), NorCal (4, 22%), TX (3, 33%)
So Texas made up 10% of the teams but only took home 20% of the Trophies!?! SoCal still held serve on their home court.
BlastFromThePast
BRONZE
Dabizness. The shift is pretty clear. Two years in a row a Texas team has come to Surf cup and won this age group. It was a completely different team this time!!! Okay, maybe it is not a shift. Maybe it is just an anomaly in this '06 age group.
With a name like "Dabizness" I would hope you could appreciate that SoCal '06 age group needs to give a little more of Dabizness instead of taking it.
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BlastFromThePast
BRONZE
Not to play Texas per se. I see what has occurred here in the last 2 years as foreshadowing of years to come if something doesn't change.
cheaper2keeper
SILVER ELITE
Skeets? Is that you under a different name? Say it isn't so "T".
Did you take a look at the 2007 girls? Socal heavy Semis
The girls that scored today for the USWNT, Dunn (5'1) and Pugh (5'4) are fast...quick...BUT NOT "big"...neither girl is from Socal. Morgan is...she is listed at 5'7... definitely fast..."big"?....idk?
The gloom and doom mood for Socal (from blast and living in the past) is unwarranted. The USWNT is not dominated by Socal girls, so not sure what your point is?
Moreover, as a soccer culture, USA shouldn't be looking backwards at what we were, but looking to improve on what we were and what we are..."big and fast" is what we were and are. Speed/quickness kills regardless! Big doesn't necessarily translate, especially in soccer. The great thing about soccer is that greatness is not limited to one mold (which blast and living in the past subscribes too). Some of the girls on the Dallas Sting have to be as tall/big as Dunn and Pugh right now at age 10...what does that mean? How big were Pugh and Dunn at age 10? Pugh is 18...where will the crop of 2006s be in 8-9 years?
Gloom and doom? The Socal girls are 9-10 right now, really?
You need to look at what the USWNT is doing now. You said it your self, Dunn and Pugh scored today and are in the national team. They are not from SoCal. The USWNT is not recruiting the biggest and the fast ones. The are recruiting the more tecnichal and creative. Are they recruiting anymore Big and fast women like Alex Morgan? No. We need to look into the future and create more technical and creative players.
BlastFromThePast
BRONZE
That is a neat trick that you tried to pull on the height but you know and I know that it only takes a second to rip it down
USWNT Olympic Roster by height. 18 woman roster
3- 5'9
2- 5'8
7- 5'7
2- 5'6
1- 5'5
2- 5'4
1- 5'1
avg height of a female in the U.S is 5'4" Average Height of USWNT is 5'7
The two sub 5'5 players that you mentioned happen to be the two fastest players on the team. So you better be better taller than average or you better be really damn fast....at least for now.
5 elements - big, fast, physical, technical and tactical.
There are always a few exceptions to the rule and being really high on one of the elements might allow you to get a pass on the other 4.
Look, all I'm saying is that I would like to see more technical and creative players. Specially up on top. The height is going to change again. It's like a pendulum, they go one way and then they go the other way. It is call the beautiful game for a reason. I just would like to see more beautiful, incredible and unbelivevable goals at any age.
heart&soul
BRONZE
To be clear, the above-mentioned "Striker parent" (if a Striker parent at all) was NOT a parent from the Striker 06 team playing against SB. The parents of the 06 players were busy paying attention to a well-played game by both teams. All respect due to both parent benches, regardless of the altercation. No one even noticed a thing until field marshals rolled up. So, whatever it was...it was nothing.
Your "5 elements" are flawed.
Speed kills... agree
Physicality is essential, soccer is a contact sport... agree
Technical skill separated players at all levels... agree
Tactical awareness or soccer IQ is what enables players to find greatness... agree
But "big"?...this element is incorrect.
Your statement that a major shift in Socal soccer, as evidenced by Sting's championship this weekend is off target.
Your emphasis on big is flawed.
"Big" is a major factor in youth sports all around, because strength, height (taller), and weight (heavier) go into defining "big". However, as players mature into adults, "big", specifically in soccer becomes less of a factor.
...how do you define "big", as it is included in your argument as the 5 essential elements for success?
How do you reconcile the fact that most of the top 5-10 world class international soccer players are not "big" by any definition? Make any list you want of 5-10...I would argue that most players in this top 10 list of world class players cannot be defined as "big"....we can start with Messi and go from there...
This whole discourse began as a result of the fact, that by any definition of "big", the Dallas Sting team is bigger than any other team in this year's 2006 group. Height and weight wise. All you need to do is line them up against any other team out there and you see They are "big". A few girls were almost as "big" as the female coach that accompanied them.
Your argument, that since the Dallas Sting is "big", and it, along with their speed are the major factors in their success, and their win at Surf Cup and victory over several Socal teams marks a shift in girls US youth Soccer, and Socal soccer, somehow is ridiculous! That this victory by Sting signals the demise of Socal girls soccer is crazy!
They are good...they are champions of both the Super Copa and Surf Cup. They are legit. However, this is youth soccer, the girls are 9-10, their development along a continuum in the next 8-10 years will be more of a factor in future success than size.
Dunn, who scored a goal tonight for the USWNT...is shorter (and probably lighter) than some of the girls on that Dallas Sting team...
No shift...just one great team of Dallas girls! The end of the world for Socal soccer is not here...stop with dooms day, and crazy rant...out and done!