Strikers ECNL rumors

[sdb]

That’s my mistake and I will own it. I meant to say GA all along. I had no clue DPL was a different tier.

Here’s a ranking of the top players from last year. Plenty of GA players on this list. ECNL is still better but ga is way better than ECRL.

Top 50 Girls Academy and ECNL players so far this season

Top-ranked players in the InStat Index.

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InStat provides a statistical breakdown of games that are submitted to InStat by teams. So this sample of players is the top players that are on teams that submit their games to InStat and pay the fee to have games broken down. I believe that one of GA or ECNL have an official relationship with InStat so that league will likely have submitted more games hence have more players on the list.

 

[mlx]

Yes I mentioned that pages ago when somebody posted that Socal youth was rumored to be going to MLS-NEXT. Posted that don't make any sense since they would be competing with the main club LAFC.

Socal Youth can put there top team in ECNL, 2nd is ECRL, 3rd in SoCal (DSL) league, etc. LAFC can pickup some of their player's for MLS-NEXT teams if they think they might be a good fit.

LAFC is a member also of EA. Will they put their academy “B” players there or could a Real SoCal team fill the spot?

 

[futboldad1]

Why would Strikers get kicked out? They are typically in the middle if the conference. Their U19's are top 3. There are other clubs who are regularly at the bottom in most/all age groups. Strikers are a long way from one of them.

I am not saying they should get kicked out.......but their decision to move boys is important........from performance I agree Strikers are a solid mid table club which is nothing to be ashamed of in such a strong league......the below chart shows the 19//20 season where 60% of games were played before Covid....... looking at results so far this season it seems basicaly the same in 20//21with the four underperfrming clubs still being Sharks, Eagles, Arsenal and Rebels.....obviously Real and Surf joined and are not shown below.....but Real feature around the upper middle and Surf in third

ECNL Current Standings (Based on PPG)	AVG Standings	U13	U14	U15	U16	U17	U18	U18 Comp
LAFC Slammers	2.4	2	1	1	1	2	2	8
So Cal Blues SC	3.7	3	6	8	4	3	1	1
Slammers FC	4.6	6	3	10	3	1	6	3
LA Breakers FC	6.3	5	8	6	8	4	9	4
Heat FC	6.3	1	4	4	7	10	11	7
Strikers FC	6.6	11	7	3	5	7	3	10
Arizona Arsenal SC	7.1	9	11	12	6	6	4	2
Phoenix Rising FC	7.3	7	9	2	2	12	12	No team
Rebels SC	7.6	8	2	11	10	5	8	9
Eagles SC	7.6	4	10	5	12	11	5	6
Arsenal FC	8.9	12	5	9	9	9	7	11
DMCV Sharks	9.0	10	12	7	11	8	10	5

 

[Carlsbad7]

I am not saying they should get kicked out.......but their decision to move boys is important........from performance I agree Strikers are a solid mid table club which is nothing to be ashamed of in such a strong league......the below chart shows the 19//20 season where 60% of games were played before Covid....... looking at results so far this season it seems basicaly the same in 20//21with the four underperfrming clubs still being Sharks, Eagles, Arsenal and Rebels.....obviously Real and Surf joined and are not shown below.....but Real feature around the upper middle and Surf in third

ECNL Current Standings (Based on PPG)	AVG Standings	U13	U14	U15	U16	U17	U18	U18 Comp
LAFC Slammers	2.4	2	1	1	1	2	2	8
So Cal Blues SC	3.7	3	6	8	4	3	1	1
Slammers FC	4.6	6	3	10	3	1	6	3
LA Breakers FC	6.3	5	8	6	8	4	9	4
Heat FC	6.3	1	4	4	7	10	11	7
Strikers FC	6.6	11	7	3	5	7	3	10
Arizona Arsenal SC	7.1	9	11	12	6	6	4	2
Phoenix Rising FC	7.3	7	9	2	2	12	12	No team
Rebels SC	7.6	8	2	11	10	5	8	9
Eagles SC	7.6	4	10	5	12	11	5	6
Arsenal FC	8.9	12	5	9	9	9	7	11
DMCV Sharks	9.0	10	12	7	11	8	10	5

Why keep quoting stats that no longer apply?

Surf + Legends in ECNL, DA is gone, Presideo is on life support, and players have moved all over the place.

The Socal soccer world has changed. Spring SCDSL has given strong hints about top teams. This fall will make everything clear regarding performance. Late fall clubs are going to move in or out of XYZ league.

 

[lafalafa]

LAFC is a member also of EA. Will they put their academy “B” players there or could a Real SoCal team fill the spot?

They are separate entities pretty sure you can just give another club membership in a league.

Socal youth could join the EA if they wanted to but doesn't make much sense either since they seem to have everything covered in their other league memberships.

LAFC has some larger rosters so havIng another team that some players could get some work in the EA or for more straight calendar year squads seems like what they would do.

 

[Messi>CR7]

As far as I know, Strikers Boys ECNL and Strikers Girls ECNL are from two completely separate organizations/chapters.
-Boys: Strikers Irvine. Boys only club.
-Girls: Strikers North. In additional to ECNL girls, they also have SCDSL boys and girls.

Whatever happens on the ECNL boys side does not affect ECNL girls, and vice versa.

 

[Carlsbad7]

As far as I know, Strikers Boys ECNL and Strikers Girls ECNL are from two completely separate organizations/chapters.
-Boys: Strikers Irvine. Boys only club.
-Girls: Strikers North. In additional to ECNL girls, they also have SCDSL boys and girls.

Whatever happens on the ECNL boys side does not affect ECNL girls, and vice versa.

The way things are going theres a lot of incentive for clubs to split out the boys and girls into seperate entities/businesses.

 

[futboldad1]

Why keep quoting stats that no longer apply?

Surf + Legends in ECNL, DA is gone, Presideo is on life support, and players have moved all over the place.

The Socal soccer world has changed. Spring SCDSL has given strong hints about top teams. This fall will make everything clear regarding performance. Late fall clubs are going to move in or out of XYZ league.

Why? Because most people here just speculate and talk your own opinions so it is helpful to have some actual numbers as a reference...... when I have time i will figure out updated statistics and post them but I have not had the time to redo things.....if you read my post and take emotion out of it you’ll see that via a quick spreadsheet I mocked up that the trends from 19//20 carried over into 20//21 regarding overall club performance.......I mentioned Surf averaging 3 and Real averaging about 5 or 6......two good additions to the a league that consolidated most of the talent especially with Legends and Beach now all in......

My data is for girls and I have little input on boys anymore but strikers is currently under one umbrella for girls and boys.......my input has been very accurate over the years as others will and have said.....

 

[NewUser27]

I think this thread is dedicated to the boys side right and the rumors of Strikers BOYS leaving ECNL , we aren't talking girls ...or at least it started that way , do you have data on the boys?

Why? Because most people here just speculate and talk your own opinions so it is helpful to have some actual numbers as a reference...... when I have time i will figure out updated statistics and post them but I have not had the time to redo things.....if you read my post and take emotion out of it you’ll see that via a quick spreadsheet I mocked up that the trends from 19//20 carried over into 20//21 regarding overall club performance.......I mentioned Surf averaging 3 and Real averaging about 5 or 6......two good additions to the a league that consolidated most of the talent especially with Legends and Beach now all in......

My data is for girls and I have little input on boys anymore but strikers is currently under one umbrella for girls and boys.......my input has been very accurate over the years as others will and have said.....

 

[futboldad1]

I think this thread is dedicated to the boys side right and the rumors of Strikers BOYS leaving ECNL , we aren't talking girls ...or at least it started that way , do you have data on the boys?

my bad, it is hard to keep up with the exact topic given much cross posting there is on the forum and each thread....... for boys the Strikers are very good, only their BU17 are in the bottom half........I think MLS Next for them makes sense.......

 

[GT45]

I am not saying they should get kicked out.......but their decision to move boys is important........from performance I agree Strikers are a solid mid table club which is nothing to be ashamed of in such a strong league......the below chart shows the 19//20 season where 60% of games were played before Covid....... looking at results so far this season it seems basicaly the same in 20//21with the four underperfrming clubs still being Sharks, Eagles, Arsenal and Rebels.....obviously Real and Surf joined and are not shown below.....but Real feature around the upper middle and Surf in third

ECNL Current Standings (Based on PPG)	AVG Standings	U13	U14	U15	U16	U17	U18	U18 Comp
LAFC Slammers	2.4	2	1	1	1	2	2	8
So Cal Blues SC	3.7	3	6	8	4	3	1	1
Slammers FC	4.6	6	3	10	3	1	6	3
LA Breakers FC	6.3	5	8	6	8	4	9	4
Heat FC	6.3	1	4	4	7	10	11	7
Strikers FC	6.6	11	7	3	5	7	3	10
Arizona Arsenal SC	7.1	9	11	12	6	6	4	2
Phoenix Rising FC	7.3	7	9	2	2	12	12	No team
Rebels SC	7.6	8	2	11	10	5	8	9
Eagles SC	7.6	4	10	5	12	11	5	6
Arsenal FC	8.9	12	5	9	9	9	7	11
DMCV Sharks	9.0	10	12	7	11	8	10	5

Strikers boys and girls have always been under the same umbrella, but they have always operated separately. Girls have been founding members of ECNL. Boys were DA, and only did ECNL last year, and are now leaving. What one does has no bearing on the other.

 

[Sunil Illuminati]

Strikers boys and girls have always been under the same umbrella, but they have always operated separately. Girls have been founding members of ECNL. Boys were DA, and only did ECNL last year, and are now leaving. What one does has no bearing on the other.

Not strictly true. At the end of the day the league has the power to make a decision that is out of any club's hands.

 

[GT45]

Not strictly true. At the end of the day the league has the power to make a decision that is out of any club's hands.

Of course they do. But there are many clubs with only one gender in ECNL. Why would they pick on one club? Strikers are a solid ECNL club on the girls side. There are clubs who struggle in girls ECNL. They are not one of them. Strikers girls are also founding members of ECNL. I imagine that carries some weight.

 

[SoccerFan4Life]

Of course they do. But there are many clubs with only one gender in ECNL. Why would they pick on one club? Strikers are a solid ECNL club on the girls side. There are clubs who struggle in girls ECNL. They are not one of them. Strikers girls are also founding members of ECNL. I imagine that carries some weight.

If you take a look back 5 years ago or less, there was no ECNL for boys. I could be wrong but the ECNL experiment is relatively new on the boys side. MLS next for the boys and ECNL for the girls is more than likely the trend moving forward.

 

[JPS]

If you take a look back 5 years ago or less, there was no ECNL for boys. I could be wrong but the ECNL experiment is relatively new on the boys side. MLS next for the boys and ECNL for the girls is more than likely the trend moving forward.

According to you ECNL boys has been around for 5 years. MLS Next will have it's second year coming up. How do you know that MLS Next is the likely trend for boys? Nobody could predict even DA going out. MLS Next league is dependent on LA Galaxy & LAFC staying on. Otherwise 80% of the teams in it are sub-par. On the other hand ECNL at least has some pedigree and structure. Who knows. Time will tell.

 

[NewUser27]

According to you ECNL boys has been around for 5 years. MLS Next will have it's second year coming up. How do you know that MLS Next is the likely trend for boys? Nobody could predict even DA going out. MLS Next league is dependent on LA Galaxy & LAFC staying on. Otherwise 80% of the teams in it are sub-par. On the other hand ECNL at least has some pedigree and structure. Who knows. Time will tell.

I agree with this statement, with our club going MLS next I will be able to tell you in quick time what I think is better. Kinda not too enthusiastic about the move right now, its great to play some MLS teams but other teams are kinda not too exciting....

 

[SoccerFan4Life]

According to you ECNL boys has been around for 5 years. MLS Next will have it's second year coming up. How do you know that MLS Next is the likely trend for boys? Nobody could predict even DA going out. MLS Next league is dependent on LA Galaxy & LAFC staying on. Otherwise 80% of the teams in it are sub-par. On the other hand ECNL at least has some pedigree and structure. Who knows. Time will tell.

So, why did Strikers FC opt out out ECNL Boys to go to MLS next??? Why do you think ECNL is the answer for boys soccer?

 

[JPS]

So, why did Strikers FC opt out out ECNL Boys to go to MLS next??? Why do you think ECNL is the answer for boys soccer?

I don't know the answer to either question. Are there any other current ECNL boys team that's switching leagues other than Strikers?
Also, I hear that LAFC and LA Galaxy won't participate in upcoming MLS Next League in 06 and older groups. I guess we will find out soon.

 

[vegasguy]

What should happen is USL and MLS create an Academy League and ECNL should run their league. This gives the academy regional opportunities (Lights, Galaxy, LAFC Loyal, Phoenix Rising, OC, and so on). Win your region and play in a National Championship Tournament. ECNL is their league. Now clubs like strikers and surf may not like this but if ECNL continues their championship platform it would survive. Their would still be the argument of the better league but both would still draw college coaches.

 

[BIGD]

Also, I hear that LAFC and LA Galaxy won't participate in upcoming MLS Next League in 06 and older groups. I guess we will find out soon.

Who would the 06-03 teams play? Or are you suggesting they aren’t going to maintain teams at those age groups?

 

[SoccerFan4Life]

I don't know the answer to either question. Are there any other current ECNL boys team that's switching leagues other than Strikers?
Also, I hear that LAFC and LA Galaxy won't participate in upcoming MLS Next League in 06 and older groups. I guess we will find out soon.

all I know is that this upcoming tournament sounds very appealing to top boys teams. Looks like MLS next had 130 clubs. That’s definitely a statement of growth.

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