Oh the " Humor " in the " Messy " LIAR commenting on a LIARS post about
someone pointing out the TRUTH !
Some data on Covid-19 and why we're not over reacting...
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Oh the " Humor " in the " Messy " LIAR commenting on a LIARS post about
someone pointing out the TRUTH !
Sheriff Joe
DA
Just shows you how most Americans really feel.
I am pretty sure Ricky was one of those guys.
Too Funny.
I
AP Poll: 3/4 of Americans polled support wearing masks in public. The other 1/4 lives in Huntington Beach.
AP-NORC poll: 3 in 4 Americans back requiring wearing masks
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Three out of four Americans, including a majority of Republicans, favor requiring people to wear face coverings while outside their homes, a new poll finds, reflecting fresh alarm over spiking coronavirus cases and a growing embrace of government advice intended to safeguard publi
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Sheriff Joe
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Mike Rowe Answers a Fan Letter About COVID-19 — It Probably Wasn’t the Answer They Expected
Posted at 10:00 am on July 24, 2020 by Becca Lower
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This undated publicity photo, provided by the Discovery Channel, shows Mike Rowe in protective underwater gear as he hosts an episode of the channel’s “Shark Week,” which airs July 30 through Aug. 4 at 9 p.m. EDT. (AP Photo/Discovery Channel, Claudia Pellarini)
Many Americans got to know Mike Rowe as the host of “Dirty Jobs With Mike Rowe,” which ran from 2005 to 2012 on the Discovery Channel — almost 170 episodes of him trying his hand at the grimiest, craziest professions he could find. Then he moved on to CNN (now TBN) with “Somebody’s Gotta Do It,” The show keeps chugging along, now in its fourth season. The listing at the Internet Movie Database describes it this way:
Mike Rowe’s Somebody’s Gotta Do It brings viewers face-to-face with men and women who march to the beat of a different drum. In each episode, Rowe visits unique individuals and joins them in their respective undertakings, paying tribute to innovators, do-gooders, entrepreneurs, collectors, fanatics-people who simply have to do it. This show is about passion, purpose, and occasionally, hobbies that get a little out of hand.
These days, Rowe hosts an online show, as well – “Returning the Favor,” now in its fourth season on Facebook Watch, which has him “travel[ing] the country in search of remarkable people making a difference in their communities.”
Many people know he also oversees mikeroweWORKS Foundation, his nonprofit organization which promotes skilled labor instead of a one-size-fits-all road to a four-year college degree. The foundation has been giving away scholarships to people who feel more suited to that kind of work — and in typical, Mike Rowe fashion, instead of being fancy, they call it “a pile of money.” It just part of why Americans love Rowe and what he does.
Another fantastic way to get a dose of Mike Rowe’s laid back, “aw shucks” sense of humor is to read the fan mail he shares sometimes on his Facebook page. Here’s the latest one I’ve read, which was posted late on Wednesday, it appears. If you aren’t familiar with the format, a viewer drops Rowe a question online, and he spins a stem-winder of an answer on his page. You always finish reading it with a feeling of delight — and that you learned something at the same time.
This time, the fan asked Mike a question about the Wuhan coronavirus… and I’m not too sure she got the answer she expected.
She wrote:
“Mike. In a recent post, you said you’ve been to Tennessee and Georgia, giving speeches and filming for your new show. Before that, you were on the road shooting for Dirty Jobs. Is it really so important to film a television show in the midst of pandemic? Is it responsible of you to encourage this kind of behavior when infection rates are spiking? Don’t you watch the news? More and more cases every day – aren’t you concerned?
Darlene Gabon
As I mentioned, he takes his time. Stick with it to the end — it’s worth it.
Rowe replied:
“Hi Darlene
Of course, I’m concerned. I’m just not petrified.
On March 15th, the day after my part of the country was locked down, I posted a link to an interview with Dr. Michael Osterholm. I’m posting it again, because I believe you and everyone else in the country would benefit from listening carefully to what he has to say. https://bit.ly/2WLOM6o
Dr. Osterholm is the Director of Infectious Disease Research and Policy. This is the same epidemiologist who ten years ago, predicted a coronavirus would come from China and turn our country upside down. In his book “Deadliest Enemies,” he anticipated the utterly irresponsible way in which the media would report on the situation, the completely opportunistic and shamelessly political way our leaders would likely react, and the unprecedented chaos and confusion that would arise from all the mixed messages from the medical community. His resume is unexampled, https://bit.ly/3jvzQTW, and his analysis of the situation is the most logical and persuasive of any I’d heard so far. He’s also the only expert I know of who hasn’t walked back his numbers, reconsidered his position, or moved the goalposts with regard to what we must do, what we can do, and what he expects to happen next. I say all of this because Dr. Osterholm publicly predicted – in early MArch – that we could conservatively see over 100 million COVID cases in this country, with a very strong possibility of 480,000 fatalities – even if we successfully “flattened the curve.”
It took me a few weeks to accept this scenario, because 480,000 fatalities is a frightening number, and [a] lot of other experts were saying lots of conflicting things. But eventually, I came to the conclusion that Dr. Osterholm was probably correct, and quickly navigated the four stages of grief that usually precede acceptance – denial, anger, bargaining, and depression. By late April, I had come to accept Dr. Osterholm’s predictions as a matter of fact. Since then, I’ve had three full months to come to terms with the fact that, a) I am probably going to get COVID-19 at some point, b), I am almost certainly going to survive it, and c), I might very well give it to someone else.
I hope that doesn’t sound blasé, or glib, or fatalistic, or selfish. Four-hundred eighty thousand deaths is an obvious tragedy, and I’m deeply sympathetic to all who have been impacted thus far. I’m also very concerned for my parents, and everyone else in a high risk category. But when Dr. Osterholm says that COVID can be slowed but not stopped, I believe him. When he says a vaccine will not necessarily hasten herd immunity, I believe him. And when he says that people have confused “flattening the curve” with “eliminating the virus,” I believe him.
Thus, for the last three months, I’ve been operating from the assumption that this is a year-round virus that’s eventually going to infect 100 million people and kill roughly 1/2 of one percent of those infected, conservatively. I’ve accepted those numbers. Unfortunately, millions of others have not. Many people have no sense of where this is headed, and I understand why. They’ve been betrayed by a hysterical media that insists on covering each new reported case as if it were the first case. Every headline today drips with dread, as the next doomed hotspot approaches the next “grim milestone.” And so, for a lot of people, everyday is Groundhogs [sic] Day. They’re paralyzed by the rising numbers because the numbers have no context. They don’t know where it will end. But Dr. Osterholm says he does, and I’m persuaded that he’s correct. He might be wrong, and frankly, I hope he is, but either way, he’s presented us with a set of projections based on a logical analysis, and accepting those projections has allowed me to move past denial, anger, bargaining, and depression, and get on with my life with a better understanding of what the risks really are.
Fact is, we the people can accept almost anything if we’re given the facts, and enough time to get evaluate the risk and make our own decisions. Last year in this country, there were six million traffic accidents and 36,000 fatalities. Tragic, for sure. But imagine for a moment if no one had ever died from a car accident. Imagine if this year, America endured six million traffic accidents and 36,000 fatalities…for the first time ever. Now, imagine if these accidents and fatalities – over 16,000 and 90 per day respectively – imagine if they were reported upon like every new incidence of COVID. What would that do to our willingness to drive? For a while, I suspect it would keep us all off the roads, right? I mean, six million accidents out of the blue is a lot to process, and 36,000 deaths is scary – especially if you don’t know how high that number could get. It would take us a while to access the risk, before we blindly hopped into our cars again. Eventually though – after getting some context and perspective – we’d be able to evaluate the relative danger of operating a motor vehicle. Then, we could decide for ourselves when to drive, where to drive, and how much to drive. And so we do.
Again, don’t misunderstand. I’m not ignoring COVID, or downplaying COVID, or pretending the risks at hand aren’t real. Nor am I comparing COVID cases to car accidents – I’m simply comparing the fear of each to the other, and the fear that always accompanies uncertainty. I don’t want to get this disease or give it to someone else, any more than I want to be in a car car wreck that injures someone else. But I’ve accepted certain things about the pandemic, and now, I’ve gotten used to the risk as I understand it. I take precautions. I get tested as often as I can, and if I can’t physically distance, I wear a mask – especially around higher risk people. Likewise, I wear a seatbelt, obey the speed limits, and check my mirrors before changing lanes. Yes – I’m aware that we’d all be a lot safer if we kept our cars in the garage. I’m also aware we’d be a lot safer if we all kept ourselves in the house. But that’s not why cars, or people, exist.
Anyway Darlene, that’s a long way of saying that I have accepted Dr. Osterholm’s numbers, and now, after three months of acceptance, I’ve made a decision on how I wish to live my life. Sooner or later, you will too. We all will.
Mike
PS. My foundation is selling masks to raise money for our next work-ethic scholarship program. They’re going fast.
Posted at 10:00 am on July 24, 2020 by Becca Lower
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This undated publicity photo, provided by the Discovery Channel, shows Mike Rowe in protective underwater gear as he hosts an episode of the channel’s “Shark Week,” which airs July 30 through Aug. 4 at 9 p.m. EDT. (AP Photo/Discovery Channel, Claudia Pellarini)
Many Americans got to know Mike Rowe as the host of “Dirty Jobs With Mike Rowe,” which ran from 2005 to 2012 on the Discovery Channel — almost 170 episodes of him trying his hand at the grimiest, craziest professions he could find. Then he moved on to CNN (now TBN) with “Somebody’s Gotta Do It,” The show keeps chugging along, now in its fourth season. The listing at the Internet Movie Database describes it this way:
Mike Rowe’s Somebody’s Gotta Do It brings viewers face-to-face with men and women who march to the beat of a different drum. In each episode, Rowe visits unique individuals and joins them in their respective undertakings, paying tribute to innovators, do-gooders, entrepreneurs, collectors, fanatics-people who simply have to do it. This show is about passion, purpose, and occasionally, hobbies that get a little out of hand.
These days, Rowe hosts an online show, as well – “Returning the Favor,” now in its fourth season on Facebook Watch, which has him “travel[ing] the country in search of remarkable people making a difference in their communities.”
Many people know he also oversees mikeroweWORKS Foundation, his nonprofit organization which promotes skilled labor instead of a one-size-fits-all road to a four-year college degree. The foundation has been giving away scholarships to people who feel more suited to that kind of work — and in typical, Mike Rowe fashion, instead of being fancy, they call it “a pile of money.” It just part of why Americans love Rowe and what he does.
Another fantastic way to get a dose of Mike Rowe’s laid back, “aw shucks” sense of humor is to read the fan mail he shares sometimes on his Facebook page. Here’s the latest one I’ve read, which was posted late on Wednesday, it appears. If you aren’t familiar with the format, a viewer drops Rowe a question online, and he spins a stem-winder of an answer on his page. You always finish reading it with a feeling of delight — and that you learned something at the same time.
This time, the fan asked Mike a question about the Wuhan coronavirus… and I’m not too sure she got the answer she expected.
She wrote:
“Mike. In a recent post, you said you’ve been to Tennessee and Georgia, giving speeches and filming for your new show. Before that, you were on the road shooting for Dirty Jobs. Is it really so important to film a television show in the midst of pandemic? Is it responsible of you to encourage this kind of behavior when infection rates are spiking? Don’t you watch the news? More and more cases every day – aren’t you concerned?
Darlene Gabon
As I mentioned, he takes his time. Stick with it to the end — it’s worth it.
Rowe replied:
“Hi Darlene
Of course, I’m concerned. I’m just not petrified.
On March 15th, the day after my part of the country was locked down, I posted a link to an interview with Dr. Michael Osterholm. I’m posting it again, because I believe you and everyone else in the country would benefit from listening carefully to what he has to say. https://bit.ly/2WLOM6o
Dr. Osterholm is the Director of Infectious Disease Research and Policy. This is the same epidemiologist who ten years ago, predicted a coronavirus would come from China and turn our country upside down. In his book “Deadliest Enemies,” he anticipated the utterly irresponsible way in which the media would report on the situation, the completely opportunistic and shamelessly political way our leaders would likely react, and the unprecedented chaos and confusion that would arise from all the mixed messages from the medical community. His resume is unexampled, https://bit.ly/3jvzQTW, and his analysis of the situation is the most logical and persuasive of any I’d heard so far. He’s also the only expert I know of who hasn’t walked back his numbers, reconsidered his position, or moved the goalposts with regard to what we must do, what we can do, and what he expects to happen next. I say all of this because Dr. Osterholm publicly predicted – in early MArch – that we could conservatively see over 100 million COVID cases in this country, with a very strong possibility of 480,000 fatalities – even if we successfully “flattened the curve.”
It took me a few weeks to accept this scenario, because 480,000 fatalities is a frightening number, and [a] lot of other experts were saying lots of conflicting things. But eventually, I came to the conclusion that Dr. Osterholm was probably correct, and quickly navigated the four stages of grief that usually precede acceptance – denial, anger, bargaining, and depression. By late April, I had come to accept Dr. Osterholm’s predictions as a matter of fact. Since then, I’ve had three full months to come to terms with the fact that, a) I am probably going to get COVID-19 at some point, b), I am almost certainly going to survive it, and c), I might very well give it to someone else.
I hope that doesn’t sound blasé, or glib, or fatalistic, or selfish. Four-hundred eighty thousand deaths is an obvious tragedy, and I’m deeply sympathetic to all who have been impacted thus far. I’m also very concerned for my parents, and everyone else in a high risk category. But when Dr. Osterholm says that COVID can be slowed but not stopped, I believe him. When he says a vaccine will not necessarily hasten herd immunity, I believe him. And when he says that people have confused “flattening the curve” with “eliminating the virus,” I believe him.
Thus, for the last three months, I’ve been operating from the assumption that this is a year-round virus that’s eventually going to infect 100 million people and kill roughly 1/2 of one percent of those infected, conservatively. I’ve accepted those numbers. Unfortunately, millions of others have not. Many people have no sense of where this is headed, and I understand why. They’ve been betrayed by a hysterical media that insists on covering each new reported case as if it were the first case. Every headline today drips with dread, as the next doomed hotspot approaches the next “grim milestone.” And so, for a lot of people, everyday is Groundhogs [sic] Day. They’re paralyzed by the rising numbers because the numbers have no context. They don’t know where it will end. But Dr. Osterholm says he does, and I’m persuaded that he’s correct. He might be wrong, and frankly, I hope he is, but either way, he’s presented us with a set of projections based on a logical analysis, and accepting those projections has allowed me to move past denial, anger, bargaining, and depression, and get on with my life with a better understanding of what the risks really are.
Fact is, we the people can accept almost anything if we’re given the facts, and enough time to get evaluate the risk and make our own decisions. Last year in this country, there were six million traffic accidents and 36,000 fatalities. Tragic, for sure. But imagine for a moment if no one had ever died from a car accident. Imagine if this year, America endured six million traffic accidents and 36,000 fatalities…for the first time ever. Now, imagine if these accidents and fatalities – over 16,000 and 90 per day respectively – imagine if they were reported upon like every new incidence of COVID. What would that do to our willingness to drive? For a while, I suspect it would keep us all off the roads, right? I mean, six million accidents out of the blue is a lot to process, and 36,000 deaths is scary – especially if you don’t know how high that number could get. It would take us a while to access the risk, before we blindly hopped into our cars again. Eventually though – after getting some context and perspective – we’d be able to evaluate the relative danger of operating a motor vehicle. Then, we could decide for ourselves when to drive, where to drive, and how much to drive. And so we do.
Again, don’t misunderstand. I’m not ignoring COVID, or downplaying COVID, or pretending the risks at hand aren’t real. Nor am I comparing COVID cases to car accidents – I’m simply comparing the fear of each to the other, and the fear that always accompanies uncertainty. I don’t want to get this disease or give it to someone else, any more than I want to be in a car car wreck that injures someone else. But I’ve accepted certain things about the pandemic, and now, I’ve gotten used to the risk as I understand it. I take precautions. I get tested as often as I can, and if I can’t physically distance, I wear a mask – especially around higher risk people. Likewise, I wear a seatbelt, obey the speed limits, and check my mirrors before changing lanes. Yes – I’m aware that we’d all be a lot safer if we kept our cars in the garage. I’m also aware we’d be a lot safer if we all kept ourselves in the house. But that’s not why cars, or people, exist.
Anyway Darlene, that’s a long way of saying that I have accepted Dr. Osterholm’s numbers, and now, after three months of acceptance, I’ve made a decision on how I wish to live my life. Sooner or later, you will too. We all will.
Mike
PS. My foundation is selling masks to raise money for our next work-ethic scholarship program. They’re going fast.
notintheface
GOLD
Excellent, Sheriff Joe is in favor of wearing a mask and socially distancing. That's a good start, Joe.
Sheriff Joe
DA
I am not anti mask or distancing, I fear this thing will run it course no matter what we do and I respect people’s freedom.
Everyone’s situation is different.
On the other hand, Fuck Newsom.
notintheface
GOLD
That's giving up. Don't give up.
AP Poll: 3/4 of Americans polled support wearing masks in public. The other 1/4 lives in Huntington Beach.
AP-NORC poll: 3 in 4 Americans back requiring wearing masks
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Three out of four Americans, including a majority of Republicans, favor requiring people to wear face coverings while outside their homes, a new poll finds, reflecting fresh alarm over spiking coronavirus cases and a growing embrace of government advice intended to safeguard publi
MORE LIES FROM THE MSM/COMMUNIST OUTLETS....!
Spola Ebola is a LYING THIEF.....who supports the Communist outlets.
Just like he did the Communist Mayor of San Diego....
DEMOCRATS = CRIMINALS
A M
A CHINA MANUFACTURED VIRUS ENABLED BY DEMOCRAT " POLITICIANS "
THAT IS BEING RE-ENTERED INTO THE POPULACE ....ESPECIALLY HERE IN CALIFORNIA....
YES......RE-ENTERED INTO THE POPULACE BY SOMETHING OTHER THAN WILLFUL
NEGLECT, SOME PERSONS OR ENTITIES ARE BEHIND THIS REOCCURRENCE.
THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPENING THIS MOMENT IN TIME
HERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA...!
THE DOCTORS AND NURSES KNOW THIS AND THEY ARE NOT TELLING THE PUBLIC...!!
I POSTED ON THIS VERY FORUM BACK IN JAN - FEB THAT THE VIRUS WAS COMING
AND THE LIBERALS ON THIS FORUM SCOFFED AND LAUGHED....
MAYBE THIS TIME THEY WILL LISTEN...!
THIS COVID-19 ( DERIVATIVE ) IS A PIECED TOGETHER VIRUS BY A BIO-WEAPONS LAB...
AND IT IS BEING SPREAD FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH IN THIS STATE...!
A CHINA MANUFACTURED VIRUS ENABLED BY DEMOCRAT " POLITICIANS "
THAT IS BEING RE-ENTERED INTO THE POPULACE ....ESPECIALLY HERE IN CALIFORNIA....
YES......RE-ENTERED INTO THE POPULACE BY SOMETHING OTHER THAN WILLFUL
NEGLECT, SOME PERSONS OR ENTITIES ARE BEHIND THIS REOCCURRENCE.
THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPENING THIS MOMENT IN TIME
HERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA...!
THE DOCTORS AND NURSES KNOW THIS AND THEY ARE NOT TELLING THE PUBLIC...!!
I POSTED ON THIS VERY FORUM BACK IN JAN - FEB THAT THE VIRUS WAS COMING
AND THE LIBERALS ON THIS FORUM SCOFFED AND LAUGHED....
MAYBE THIS TIME THEY WILL LISTEN...!
THIS COVID-19 ( DERIVATIVE ) IS A PIECED TOGETHER VIRUS BY A BIO-WEAPONS LAB...
AND IT IS BEING SPREAD FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH IN THIS STATE...!
Desert Hound
DA
Then factor in that they think between 10-20 times the positive cases are asymptomatic cases.
Crickets........................................................................................................................................................
fake news.AP Poll: 3/4 of Americans polled support wearing masks in public. The other 1/4 lives in Huntington Beach.
AP-NORC poll: 3 in 4 Americans back requiring wearing masks
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Three out of four Americans, including a majority of Republicans, favor requiring people to wear face coverings while outside their homes, a new poll finds, reflecting fresh alarm over spiking coronavirus cases and a growing embrace of government advice intended to safeguard publi
Only half can be brainwashed that quickly.
Like Ive said from the very beginning, if you want to stay home and wear a mask, go ahead, but leave me the fuck out of your own personal hell.
I have real issues to deal with day in and day out.
Hüsker Dü
DA
If you contract the virus you may find your own personal hell. Do you believe the stories of healthy people under the age of 60 dying is a lie? Do you think these doctors and nurses are lying and that they are "crisis actors"? Or could it be you are simply lucky that the virus hasn't affected you personally and that could all come crashing down and you might be the one that brought the virus into your family? I now have four maga friends that thought like you until some one close got sick and they all did 180's. One guy I worked with for decades is living a personal hell right now as he got it, passed it to his wife and now her mother is in ICU. Pray you don't get an awaken yourself. Arrogance and ignorance only go so far in this world then the laws of nature kick in.
More people my age die from the flu every year.
Ive never worn a mask.
If my mother in law was still alive and living with us I would assess the situation and adjust accordingly.
There are differing circumstances in every case.
Blanket mask mandates are ridiculous and unconstitutional..
If you are in a high risk group, assess your situation and protect, or dont protect yourself as you see fit.
The rest of us should be free to do the same.
The destruction of people's businesses and livelihoods over this virus far outweigh any benefit of so called safety measures the government has lorded over them.
The rest of us should be free to do the same.
The destruction of people's businesses and livelihoods over this virus far outweigh any benefit of so called safety measures the government has lorded over them.