Some data on Covid-19 and why we're not over reacting...

The Outlaw said:
In my world, you don't throw a punch unless you're willing to eat one. It never would have been said had McCain not started it. Like I said, I loved McCain until he ran for President and became a pussy. And just like Hillary and Marco Rubio before him, McCain learned that it's a bad idea to play Trump's game against him. I never said I agree with everything Trump says. Again, he'd have never said it had McCain kept his mouth shut.
Click to expand...
Discussing policy, disagreeing with policy is fine. Personal attacks that also disparage our entire military history are only ok in the world you want.
 
messy said:
And the above precisely captures Trump mastery of the darkest arts...the "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot someone and I wouldn't lose any voters" success in gathering this swirling mass of anger and fear and hatred and bottling it for his own power. That power persuades otherwise probably humane and respectful people (giving Outlaw the benefit of the doubt), even conservative people who would be proud of our military, that it is OK to speak this way of McCain or Gold Star families or generals. I could go on, of course...
Click to expand...

I have great respect for our military and Americans that choose to enter the armed forces. I don't think that automatically makes you a hero. I know a lot of morons that served. McCain picked a fight he shouldn't have started. Trump isn't politically correct, so if you want a fight, be prepared for an MMA match and not WWE.
 
The Outlaw said:
I have great respect for our military and Americans that choose to enter the armed forces. I don't think that automatically makes you a hero. I know a lot of morons that served. McCain picked a fight he shouldn't have started. Trump isn't politically correct, so if you want a fight, be prepared for an MMA match and not WWE.
Click to expand...

Illuminating.

Please continue.
 
espola said:
In most people's views, t came out the loser in that exchange.
Click to expand...

You don't speak for "Most" people. You don't even speak for 1% of most people. Trump won the election because Americans are tired of the bullshit. Tired of the political correctness. Tired of this country being run by people pandering to us. The liberal party is an absolute disgrace to humanity, so if you really want to know why Trump keeps winning, don't focus on him... focus on how pathetic and sad the democrats have become.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Discussing policy, disagreeing with policy is fine. Personal attacks that also disparage our entire military history are only ok in the world you want.
Click to expand...

He didn't disparage our entire military, he made fun of a guy that spent much of his time captured. A guy that picked a fight and Trump was willing to go there. Again, don't pick a fight with Trump. McCain didn't disagree with his policy... he took offense to what Trump said and personally attacked him. You need a lesson on this or not? I offered yesterday. You change your mind?
 
espola said:
CDC is recommending shutdown of non-essential businesses and continuing with social separation practices. Do you disagree with the CDC?
Click to expand...
I disagree with shutting down businesses. Socially separate as much as you can, keep grandpa and grandpa quarantined and wear a mask and gloves when you see them.
 
The Outlaw said:
He didn't disparage our entire military, he made fun of a guy that spent much of his time captured. A guy that picked a fight and Trump was willing to go there. Again, don't pick a fight with Trump. McCain didn't disagree with his policy... he took offense to what Trump said and personally attacked him. You need a lesson on this or not? I offered yesterday. You change your mind?
Click to expand...

"...he made fun of a guy that spent much of his time captured..."

That tells a lot about YOU.
 
MSK357 said:
www.realclearpolitics.com

Dr. Birx: Coronavirus Data Doesn't Match The Doomsday Media Predictions

White House coronavirus task force member Dr. Deborah Brix warned the public not to panic when they hear about models and projections of the pandemic's spread. "Models are models," she said. "When people start talking about 20% of a population getting infected, it's very scary, but we don't...
www.realclearpolitics.com www.realclearpolitics.com
Click to expand...

Dr. Birx also said this today, referring to t -- “He is so attentive to the scientific literature and the details and the data, and I think his ability to analyze and integrate data that comes out of his long history in business has really been a real benefit during these discussions about medical issues”
 
espola said:
I agree that you are lying about me, even after I have explained why.
Click to expand...
Not lying at all, we both know where you stand. you believe this coronavirus is worse than the swine flu and seasonal flu. I agree that its bad for you. but not for the majority of the population. people under 60 have over 98% chance of surviving this. those rates are getting better with more people tested. that includes people with underlying conditions. those are facts. facts cant be disputed.
 
espola said:
Dr. Birx also said this today, referring to t -- “He is so attentive to the scientific literature and the details and the data, and I think his ability to analyze and integrate data that comes out of his long history in business has really been a real benefit during these discussions about medical issues”
Click to expand...
You can disagree with the doctor. that doesn't mean she's wrong. it doesn't mean she's right. opinions aren't facts. but it is a fact that projections on this coronavirus have dropped.
 
MSK357 said:
Not lying at all, we both know where you stand. you believe this coronavirus is worse than the swine flu and seasonal flu. I agree that its bad for you. but not for the majority of the population. people under 60 have over 98% chance of surviving this. those rates are getting better with more people tested. that includes people with underlying conditions. those are facts. facts cant be disputed.
Click to expand...

Facts?
 
The Outlaw said:
He didn't disparage our entire military, he made fun of a guy that spent much of his time captured. A guy that picked a fight and Trump was willing to go there. Again, don't pick a fight with Trump. McCain didn't disagree with his policy... he took offense to what Trump said and personally attacked him. You need a lesson on this or not? I offered yesterday. You change your mind?
Click to expand...
God...I don't even know what to say to you "he made fun of a guy that spent much of his time captured". Dear God do you not know what McCain went through???? Have you no decency?

Here is how McCain was captured:

McCain’s bomber was hit by a surface-to-air missile on Oct. 26, 1967, destroying the aircraft’s right wing. According to McCain, the plane entered an “inverted, almost straight-down spin,” and he ejected.

But the sheer force of the ejection broke his right leg and both arms, knocking him unconscious, the report said. McCain came to as he landed in a lake, but burdened by heavy equipment, he sank straight to the bottom. Able to kick to the surface momentarily for air, he somehow managed to activate his life preserver with his teeth.

He refused to give anything but name, rank, and serial number.

When he was moved into solitary confinement in March 1968 and when his father was named commander-in-chief of all US Pacific forces several months later, McCain’s troubles were just beginning. The North Vietnamese hoped to score a propaganda victory by offering McCain an early release. McCain has said he refused the offer on the condition that he would only accept if every man captured before him was released as well. When McCain was brought to the senior North Vietnamese officer -– a man he refers to as “The Cat” –- he refused the offer of an early release yet again.

McCain says his torture began in August of 1968. “For the next four days, I was beaten every two or three hours by different guards. My left arm was broken again and my ribs were cracked,” he said according to U.S. News

All of that is backed up by his fellow POW's. They all said they couldn't believe the torture he endured yet never broke, it gave them the strength to go on.

McCain gets tortured to near death and won't break. Trump gets his ego hurt with the slightest of slights and he responds by mocking a POW or a Gold Star family.

I don't give a d*mm what your politics are. Shame on you.
 
Imtired said:
God...I don't even know what to say to you "he made fun of a guy that spent much of his time captured". Dear God do you not know what McCain went through???? Have you no decency?

Here is how McCain was captured:

McCain’s bomber was hit by a surface-to-air missile on Oct. 26, 1967, destroying the aircraft’s right wing. According to McCain, the plane entered an “inverted, almost straight-down spin,” and he ejected.

But the sheer force of the ejection broke his right leg and both arms, knocking him unconscious, the report said. McCain came to as he landed in a lake, but burdened by heavy equipment, he sank straight to the bottom. Able to kick to the surface momentarily for air, he somehow managed to activate his life preserver with his teeth.

He refused to give anything but name, rank, and serial number.

When he was moved into solitary confinement in March 1968 and when his father was named commander-in-chief of all US Pacific forces several months later, McCain’s troubles were just beginning. The North Vietnamese hoped to score a propaganda victory by offering McCain an early release. McCain has said he refused the offer on the condition that he would only accept if every man captured before him was released as well. When McCain was brought to the senior North Vietnamese officer -– a man he refers to as “The Cat” –- he refused the offer of an early release yet again.

McCain says his torture began in August of 1968. “For the next four days, I was beaten every two or three hours by different guards. My left arm was broken again and my ribs were cracked,” he said according to U.S. News

All of that is backed up by his fellow POW's. They all said they couldn't believe the torture he endured yet never broke, it gave them the strength to go on.

McCain gets tortured to near death and won't break. Trump gets his ego hurt with the slightest of slights and he responds by mocking a POW or a Gold Star family.

I don't give a d*mm what your politics are. Shame on you.
Click to expand...

I have a great deal of decency. I don't feel sorry for someone that picks a fight and loses. It's that simple. Shame on you for being a crotchety old fuck. I think you really are pretty tired.
 
MSK357 said:
Swine flu that killed 12,000 is actually a low number. It didn't hit the U.S. until April of 2009. It missed the peak flu season months of 2009. We got the coronavirus in January, right before the peak months of February and March. By Pandemic standards, if the corona virus is worse that the swine flu, we should be going way past the 12,000 numbers by the end of the year.
Click to expand...
Don’t confuse these cocksuckers with facts, hurts their little heads.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top