Soccer coach rat you out for trying out

Messi>CR7 said:
Do you tell your boss when you're interviewing for a new job? :) There is absolutely no need to tell your coach you're looking at another option. If your coach is a petty person, he will hold it against your kid regardless whether you gave him a notice. If your kid is a true baller, he will likely be more understanding and ask how he can make the situation better.

The open tryout policy with a starting date is a joke. We have had people trying out for our team since October!
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If those kids are on rosters through state cup they and your club are in violation of league rules and can be fined. happens every year though.
Some of the top clubs are most guilty of inviting kids to train and offering roster spots to kids on active state cup rosters without consequence.
It's a messy, ugly, ridiculously political system. Grass is definitely not greener, and like it or not, kids and families who bounce clubs earn a reputation that is well known across all clubs.
 
It's an impossible situation. Coaches cannot evaluate based on 1 hour tryout with 20+ kids. if you get an offer rightaway then the team is desperate. It is a good time to negotiate pays. I got free uniforms a few times :). Usually you have to train with them for a few weeks until the coach figure things out, sometimes the club director will offer you another team within the club as well.
Teams/coaches would like to know how many new players they need to recruit for next season. Most coaches will not tell you if they are thinking of cutting your kid so I do not understand why you want to tell the coach that you are trying out.
Parents that are telling the coach are at risk being cut if a better candidate show up (this can be mitigated by being the core/strongest 5-6 players in the team). Most coaches will give you less minutes during the next season as a punishment but that is normal human behaviour when their income is being threatened. If this happens, just explain to your son/daughter that this season will be terrible and we will move club next year. If it is a boy, sign him up for latino leagues for extra playtime. for a girl, i am not sure, maybe futsal, not a lot of latino girl league in my area.
Again, best situation is to keep it to yourself.
Worst case is persuading other parents to go with you. This happens a lot and the coach WILL take this personally ::))
I reported to the director one time and it did not end well but there could be good directors out there.

This is based on my own experience, stories from friends, and club coaches that happen to be my friend (not my kid's coaches).
 
aong cangkol said:
It's an impossible situation. Coaches cannot evaluate based on 1 hour tryout with 20+ kids. if you get an offer rightaway then the team is desperate. It is a good time to negotiate pays. I got free uniforms a few times :). Usually you have to train with them for a few weeks until the coach figure things out, sometimes the club director will offer you another team within the club as well.
Teams/coaches would like to know how many new players they need to recruit for next season. Most coaches will not tell you if they are thinking of cutting your kid so I do not understand why you want to tell the coach that you are trying out.
Parents that are telling the coach are at risk being cut if a better candidate show up (this can be mitigated by being the core/strongest 5-6 players in the team). Most coaches will give you less minutes during the next season as a punishment but that is normal human behaviour when their income is being threatened. If this happens, just explain to your son/daughter that this season will be terrible and we will move club next year. If it is a boy, sign him up for latino leagues for extra playtime. for a girl, i am not sure, maybe futsal, not a lot of latino girl league in my area.
Again, best situation is to keep it to yourself.
Worst case is persuading other parents to go with you. This happens a lot and the coach WILL take this personally ::))
I reported to the director one time and it did not end well but there could be good directors out there.

This is based on my own experience, stories from friends, and club coaches that happen to be my friend (not my kid's coaches).
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It's worst for the youngers because of limited team sizes and knowledge/athletic skill is so disbursed that 1 or 2 players can make all the difference on a team. For the older higher levels the risk is mitigated. If you don't like them, what are you going to do to get equivalent letter league: commute an hour? If they don't like you they'll just drop you to reserve player status and you won't get to see the field or have to chase the dragon "competing for your time"....someone has to pay to the scholarships.

ps a lot of Latino leagues are coed. Particularly in coed leagues you have to play a certain number of girls so they love having the girls come out. The Mexican game is rough and physical. If a girl can take it, she'd learn a lot in Latino league.
 
Messi>CR7 said:
Do you tell your boss when you're interviewing for a new job? :) There is absolutely no need to tell your coach you're looking at another option. If your coach is a petty person, he will hold it against your kid regardless whether you gave him a notice. If your kid is a true baller, he will likely be more understanding and ask how he can make the situation better.

The open tryout policy with a starting date is a joke. We have had people trying out for our team since October!
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My favorite is when multiple clubs all schedule tryouts at the same exact time. And when you're not there on the first day, you get put on the 2nd page of names. The marginal kid that shows up early the first day gets to wait until Day 3 for an offer in case a prettier pony shows up.

Pisses me off.
 
Slobodan said:
My favorite is when multiple clubs all schedule tryouts at the same exact time. And when you're not there on the first day, you get put on the 2nd page of names. The marginal kid that shows up early the first day gets to wait until Day 3 for an offer in case a prettier pony shows up.
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In AZ all the clubs schedule like this. For that exact reason. At older ages everyone knows everyone. Coaches know who the good players are and will swap. Kids try to move to the higher teams but that is never done at tryouts. Those deals are done long before tryouts even start. I would say for top teams the rosters are set months before tryouts begin. Every now and then you get disgruntled players moving but everyone knows before tryouts start. It is very rare that a player shows up for tryouts and its a surprise. Now ECRL and second teams that is a different game. They swap a lot and players that have trained hard will shop themselves looking for a better deal. Conversely players that have gotten complacent will get cut and move.
 
I think with the current age group shift coming you are going to see a lot of families trying out everywhere just to see what opportunities they have. Doubt coaches will be calling other coaches when this starts as there will be to many.
 
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