SilverLakes Thanksgiving Showcase

Justafan said:
Almost certainly not true. Since most of their A team players are DA, they wouldn't have had enough returning players to stay or promote to Premiere. If they had stayed at CSL, they may have forced to start over as a new team at the Bronze level. The best way to look at it is what level these clubs' B teams were playing at last year.
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Not completely true but might have some merit with a few clubs. Real and Eagles took their ECNL teams to DA so your argument doesn't work for them. LAGSD's second team won Gold South and would have been Premier. Your CSL arguemnent only works for maybe Albion. Legends second team was in Champions last year. Beach was a top flight 1 team.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
I agree. I did say the top several teams belong in the top flight.
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What you forgot to mention is that some teams in the top flight belong in the lower flight. You see, that's what's wrong with your narrative. Your response implies DPL is at the top and you're simply acknowledging that some, not all, non-DPL teams are good enough to compete with DPL teams. This implies DPL is the standard. IT IS NOT. Repeating it over and over again doesn't make it true.
 
zags77 said:
Silverlakes careful what you wish for, if flight 1 non champions league team are beating DPL teams handily in CRL and ECNL teams notch a few wins Thanksgiving weekend this might actually prove that ECNL is the 2nd best choice to DA.
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This is what I'm talking about (see my previous post). Don't do it Zags, don't assume DPL is the second best league and that other leagues are chasing them to be the 2nd best.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Not completely true but might have some merit with a few clubs. Real and Eagles took their ECNL teams to DA so your argument doesn't work for them. LAGSD's second team won Gold South and would have been Premier. Your CSL arguemnent only works for maybe Albion. Legends second team was in Champions last year. Beach was a top flight 1 team.
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What level did Real, Eagles and LA Premiere 2nd teams play?
 
Justafan said:
What you forgot to mention is that some teams in the top flight belong in the lower flight. You see, that's what's wrong with your narrative. Your response implies DPL is at the top and you're simply acknowledging that some, not all, non-DPL teams are good enough to compete with DPL teams. This implies DPL is the standard. IT IS NOT. Repeating it over and over again doesn't make it true.
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Don't go twisting my words and implying I have a narrative. Let me state it clearly for you. The top SCDSL champions teams and Premier teams are very good. I am not sure who would win against the top DPL teams but I would like to see them play each other. The bottom DPL teams are not nearly as good. The same can be said about the bottom Flight 1 and Premier teams. Yes there are several teams including DPL teams that if you go by record should be in the 2nd flight and several teams in the second flight that should be in the top flight.
 
Justafan said:
What level did Real, Eagles and LA Premiere 2nd teams play?
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Real's second team was their Flight 1 EGSL team which took first place in Europa North and Eagle's second team was Premier. Both of these teams stayed mostly intact with the addition of a couple of good players so even if the DPL hadn't been created they would have kept their league placement in SCDSL/Coast.

LA Premier is another story. Their Academy team took most of the starters from their last season's Premier team. The majority of the DPL team are either new or were from their bench that was originally relegated to the third team but pulled up very last minute when they didn't have enough players to field both an Academy and a DPL team. This team would not have been able to maintain their premier status and possibly would have had to start over at bronze. It is interesting to note that they have been doing fairly well in DPL. Is it that they are a better team than anticipated? Or is it that the other teams aren't as good as you would expect?
 
fotos4u2 said:
Real's second team was their Flight 1 EGSL team which took first place in Europa North and Eagle's second team was Premier. Both of these teams stayed mostly intact with the addition of a couple of good players so even if the DPL hadn't been created they would have kept their league placement in SCDSL/Coast.

LA Premier is another story. Their Academy team took most of the starters from their last season's Premier team. The majority of the DPL team are either new or were from their bench that was originally relegated to the third team but pulled up very last minute when they didn't have enough players to field both an Academy and a DPL team. This team would not have been able to maintain their premier status and possibly would have had to start over at bronze. It is interesting to note that they have been doing fairly well in DPL. Is it that they are a better team than anticipated? Or is it that the other teams aren't as good as you would expect?
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Real doesn't have 8 players back from its EGSL team.. or if they do, it is only because they are carrying 22 (or whatever) on the roster. That team's 'best' players are new to the team fresh from the Eagles, CVU, Westside Breakers, (and I guessing from a very solid Simi Valley team that unfortunately disbanded), etc. In fact that team, with KW as coach, is without a doubt better than last year's EGSL team - but is underperforming.

But my point isn't that the DPL teams suck, although it is pretty obvious some of them do.. my point is simply that the Silverlakes Showcase, by auto-placing all the DPL teams in a higher bracket, is institutionally supporting a false narrative and thereby giving a lesser value service to some in favor of others.
 
shortBUTslow said:
But my point isn't that the DPL teams suck, although it is pretty obvious some of them do.. my point is simply that the Silverlakes Showcase, by auto-placing all the DPL teams in a higher bracket, is institutionally supporting a false narrative and thereby giving a lesser value service to some in favor of others.
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Silverlakes is run by Legends. Who is a big supporter of the League. They after all helped to start the league for fear of losing kids to ECNL teams. So they of course are going to prop of the DPL.

It is a true shame to make any teams play on the west side. Put the little ones over there. The west fields are terrible.

I will be rooting for the ECNL and Non DPL teams as I think DPL is a load of crap similar to what EGSL was/is.
 
Scheduling some of the AMG games the West fields is just rubbing salt in the wound. Not a single game in the supposed 'top tier' is being banished there.

I've looked forward to every single showcase my DD has participated in to date... because the matchups were interesting (oops) and the fields have been top notch (oops).

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Dear Silverlakes,

You suck.

Sincerely,

An Unhappy 'Customer'
 
I respected Legends because they always did their own thing, had good teams and never stooped to the level of other clubs like Surf that kept their ECNL monopolies in San Diego (until this year).

Congrats, you are now on the same level touting this DPL crap.
 
shortBUTslow said:
Scheduling some of the AMG games the West fields is just rubbing salt in the wound. Not a single game in the supposed 'top tier' is being banished there.

I've looked forward to every single showcase my DD has participated in to date... because the matchups were interesting (oops) and the fields have been top notch (oops).

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Dear Silverlakes,

You suck.

Sincerely,

An Unhappy 'Customer'
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Where are the west fields?
 
Jack Doe said:
What happened to Surf? Looking at the 45 girls teams accepted to the 2001 bracket only 7 of them (3 are from SoCal) are in the top 100 based on Got Soccer. If you look just at SoCal and use Youth Soccer Rankings only 4 out of the 25 SoCal teams will be there. It still looks like a good tournament but no longer one of the elite.
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Once you said gotsoccer you lost all credibility ...
 
Soccer said:
Across the street. Technically the City fiends that Silverlakes rents from the City for large events. Some State Cup Game’s have been there.
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Hope they do a better job of prepping these fields than Cal South. Last year at State Cup these fields were ankle deep and muddy earlier in the day.
 
Hey Silverlakes... Since it is too late to make the matchups fair, or refund teams that clearly made a mistake trusting that you'd provide fair value for the service for which you are being paid, how about you asshats at least move the games scheduled for the West fields back to the 'right' side of the road since the DA teams are most assuredly not coming.

Whatever fields you had reserved from them should now be available for the lowly teams in the AMG tier, no?

If you do that small favor, I will cancel all my plans for www.silverlakestournamentssuck.com
 
shortBUTslow said:
Hey Silverlakes... Since it is too late to make the matchups fair, or refund teams that clearly made a mistake trusting that you'd provide fair value for the service for which you are being paid, how about you asshats at least move the games scheduled for the West fields back to the 'right' side of the road since the DA teams are most assuredly not coming.

Whatever fields you had reserved from them should now be available for the lowly teams in the AMG tier, no?

If you do that small favor, I will cancel all my plans for www.silverlakestournamentssuck.com
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I hear the DA teams may play. It would be a Game or 2. Just a friendly,not officially part of the Tournament.

Playing against teams in the southwest conference.

Are parents going to let their kids play in a friendly risking injury when a couple weeks after, you have Florida. Florida has to be a big expense. Risk it all for a friendly?

The games cannot be on the schedule. US Soccer has not approved the event. Nor will they. They want the girls fresh for Florida.

Silverlakes doesn’t care. It’s all about ego. DA teams aren’t even paying for the Scrimmage.

Short you have a valid complaint, if the fields are as bad as they have been in the past on that side.

Did they put the Little’s on the West side too?
 
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