Silver Lakes College Showcase, Surf College Showcase, November Nights

How lucky we are to have two outstanding events for our children! It really doesn't matter which you think is best. Well done to both on great showcases. We have great kids, great talent, great teams, great events and still we take to the forums to complain! Well done to those who put the time and effort into these events! Couldn't care less which is best, both do a great job
 
MakeAPlay said:
Brian I figured that this would go over a lot of people's head which is why I posted it. Part of the entertainment for me of this forum is seeing how people's take on things changes once reality hits and they realize they were wrong. I know many posters that were pro "Club X" and talked about how great it was and then reality hits and they aren't in the best situation. You as an educator should be able to read between the lines. However, I will explain it just for kicks and giggles. Compare Legends and Surf in terms of college commits. There is no comparison. Surf will always draw in players as they not only have a plethora of talented players but the teams play sophisticated soccer and more importantly the players do well in college. That creates repeat customers. I honestly don't care if people go where they want to go. Everyone has to live with their decisions and their consequences. I have been on these boards for a long time and seen many parents fall for the snake charmer and end up with nothing or something that is not so great. At the end of the day it is about the players which is why Legends homers try so hard to attract them. Surf doesn't have to do that. They just seem to show up on their doorsteps. There is a reason for that...
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Well, for a long time they (Surf ) were the only game in town (fall showcase) if they didn't attract college coaches I would be worried. Now, there is additional venues to watch elite players. Coaches want to see the elite players play where ever that may be.
 
Lambchop said:
Well, for a long time they (Surf ) were the only game in town (fall showcase) if they didn't attract college coaches I would be worried. Now, there is additional venues to watch elite players. Coaches want to see the elite players play where ever that may be.
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Can you name one "Elite" player in US youth soccer who currently plays club?
 
CaliKlines said:
Here are some additional opinions about an upstart showcase that exceeded all expectations...the convenient one.

http://goalnation.com/1st-annual-girls-silverlakes-college-showcase/
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With all due respect Cali are you really trying to compare an article that is clearly a marketing piece and which only quotes a car salesman (the Mercedes GM) to one that quotes Anson Dorrance (let's just call him the godfather of women's soccer in the US) and gives his opinion? I expect better efforts from you sir. Are you still nursing the Thanksgiving hangover? Even the Legion of Legend's Homers (let's call them the LLH going forward) won't try to defend that one!
 
MakeAPlay said:
With all due respect Cali are you really trying to compare an article that is clearly a marketing piece and which only quotes a car salesman (the Mercedes GM) to one that quotes Anson Dorrance (let's just call him the godfather of women's soccer in the US) and gives his opinion? I expect better efforts from you sir. Are you still nursing the Thanksgiving hangover? Even the Legion of Legend's Homers (let's call them the LLH going forward) won't try to defend that one!
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When Coach Dorrance made that statement, had he ever been to a Silverlakes College Showcase? No? Then how could he compare the two? Also, the link you posted is nothing more than a carefully crafted marketing piece that doesn't address Surf's inconvenient location or the years of $10 parking fees from thousands of family vehicles that has done nothing to improve their parking situation. Where will Coach Dorrance go next year when all of the elite teams and players decide to play in a less expensive and more convenient location? By your own argument, they will go where the players go. As a parent, I know where I want my player to go. It is no contest. I prefer being able to sleep in my own bed during the Thanksgiving Holiday, and being able to visit with family and out of town guests, and save my hard earned $ for the Christmas holiday (which usually follows pretty close behind Turkey Day).

O-side gives you "occasional ocean breezes", but more frequent "questionable breezes" since it is built on top of rotting, decaying garbage. The Silverlakes College Showcase has NEVER been rained out. Can Surf say the same thing? And I love your obsession with the Mercedes golf carts...don't forget to also mention the sushi bar, cigar rolling station, and live bands introduced by the progressive staff of the Silverlakes College Showcase. Remember, those college coaches are going to go where the greatest concentration of the elite players/teams go....and which area has the greater concentration of top teams/players? San Diego County or LA/Orange/Riverside counties? Just give it up...there is no comparison when you really sit down and think about it.

"THE MONEY WE HAVE SAVED THEIR PARENTS — IT HAS TO BE OVER $100,000,000,000,” SAYS CONNERELY." And I've never heard anyone from Silverlakes taking credit for the hard work of the players.
 
Lambchop said:
Well, for a long time they (Surf ) were the only game in town (fall showcase) if they didn't attract college coaches I would be worried. Now, there is additional venues to watch elite players. Coaches want to see the elite players play where ever that may be.
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I agree with you 100% that coaches will go wherever the elite players that they are interested are playing at.
 
CaliKlines said:
When Coach Dorrance made that statement, had he ever been to a Silverlakes College Showcase? No? Then how could he compare the two? Also, the link you posted is nothing more than a carefully crafted marketing piece that doesn't address Surf's inconvenient location or the years of $10 parking fees from thousands of family vehicles that has done nothing to improve their parking situation. Where will Coach Dorrance go next year when all of the elite teams and players decide to play in a less expensive and more convenient location? By your own argument, they will go where the players go. As a parent, I know where I want my player to go. It is no contest. I prefer being able to sleep in my own bed during the Thanksgiving Holiday, and being able to visit with family and out of town guests, and save my hard earned $ for the Christmas holiday (which usually follows pretty close behind Turkey Day).

O-side gives you "occasional ocean breezes", but more frequent "questionable breezes" since it is built on top of rotting, decaying garbage. The Silverlakes College Showcase has NEVER been rained out. Can Surf say the same thing? And I love your obsession with the Mercedes golf carts...don't forget to also mention the sushi bar, cigar rolling station, and live bands introduced by the progressive staff of the Silverlakes College Showcase. Remember, those college coaches are going to go where the greatest concentration of the elite players/teams go....and which area has the greater concentration of top teams/players? San Diego County or LA/Orange/Riverside counties? Just give it up...there is no comparison when you really sit down and think about it.

"THE MONEY WE HAVE SAVED THEIR PARENTS — IT HAS TO BE OVER $100,000,000,000,” SAYS CONNERELY." And I've never heard anyone from Silverlakes taking credit for the hard work of the players.
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Cali, few responses.

1. Dorrance has already attended a centrally located college showcase where elite players participate in. You may have heard of it, it's called ECNL showcases. I've seen him there a few times.

2. Um, next year Silverlakes won't have the elite players, because girls DA clubs can't participate.

3. Worrying about $10 a day or $25 for 3 days of parking does suck, but is peanutes compared to club travel cost.

4. Oceanside may have a stench, but so does Silverlakes. When the breeze blows west to east....you get that great that fresh cow shit stench.

5. I have bought a car at Fletcher Jones and a few at Rusnak. Rusnak cuts better deals and has superior customer service. ;)
 
CaliKlines said:
When Coach Dorrance made that statement, had he ever been to a Silverlakes College Showcase? No? Then how could he compare the two? Also, the link you posted is nothing more than a carefully crafted marketing piece that doesn't address Surf's inconvenient location or the years of $10 parking fees from thousands of family vehicles that has done nothing to improve their parking situation. Where will Coach Dorrance go next year when all of the elite teams and players decide to play in a less expensive and more convenient location? By your own argument, they will go where the players go. As a parent, I know where I want my player to go. It is no contest. I prefer being able to sleep in my own bed during the Thanksgiving Holiday, and being able to visit with family and out of town guests, and save my hard earned $ for the Christmas holiday (which usually follows pretty close behind Turkey Day).

O-side gives you "occasional ocean breezes", but more frequent "questionable breezes" since it is built on top of rotting, decaying garbage. The Silverlakes College Showcase has NEVER been rained out. Can Surf say the same thing? And I love your obsession with the Mercedes golf carts...don't forget to also mention the sushi bar, cigar rolling station, and live bands introduced by the progressive staff of the Silverlakes College Showcase. Remember, those college coaches are going to go where the greatest concentration of the elite players/teams go....and which area has the greater concentration of top teams/players? San Diego County or LA/Orange/Riverside counties? Just give it up...there is no comparison when you really sit down and think about it.

"THE MONEY WE HAVE SAVED THEIR PARENTS — IT HAS TO BE OVER $100,000,000,000,” SAYS CONNERELY." And I've never heard anyone from Silverlakes taking credit for the hard work of the players.
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What I like about you Cali is you are tenaciously persistent and you at least try to back up what you say.

First, regarding AD never attending Silverlakes. you are correct he probably did not visit is nor likely will until somebody he really wants to see is playing there. Surf tends to get more high profile out of area teams in addition to top local teams so he is not likely to go just to "check it out."

Second, regarding the $10 parking. Are we really making decision based on parking? Buy the weekend pass it is like $24 and the college coaches write it off anyway.

Next, I think that the elite teams are going to want to play the elite competition. Teams come to SoCal to play Surf and Blues. You cannot deny that. Surf and Blues will continue to be at the Surf Cup which leads top teams, top players and top colleges to attend. Pretty simple concept with no marketing really needed.

Now let's talk YOUR personal preference since this is what this is really about. YOUR homer preference. For some of us it is just as far or farther to go to Norco. Not to mention it is YOUR preference to stay in a hotel when your team played at Surf Cup (or any other SoCal tournament/showcase) instead of simply driving home at the end of the day. Personally outside of once or twice during National Cup when the morning schedule was not favorable or when the tournament/showcase was out of state or in NorCal I almost always would drive home at the end of the day.

Next let's talk Oceanside vs. Norco. Umm the smell of cow crap versus the occasional smell of garbage (which I have never smelled and I have been to the facility numerous times). The opportunity to go to breweries and the beach or the 909 and whatever it is your guys do out there. By the way I never mentioned the Mercedes golf carts. I don't really care and personally I would never eat sushi from a soccer tournament (GROSS!!). I agree that their is really no comparison when you look at what showcase has the highest concentration of elite players and teams. No matter how hard you want it to be otherwise, any statement to the contrary just isn't true and you know it.
 
MakeAPlay said:
What I like about you Cali is you are tenaciously persistent and you at least try to back up what you say.

First, regarding AD never attending Silverlakes. you are correct he probably did not visit is nor likely will until somebody he really wants to see is playing there. Surf tends to get more high profile out of area teams in addition to top local teams so he is not likely to go just to "check it out."

Second, regarding the $10 parking. Are we really making decision based on parking? Buy the weekend pass it is like $24 and the college coaches write it off anyway.

Next, I think that the elite teams are going to want to play the elite competition. Teams come to SoCal to play Surf and Blues. You cannot deny that. Surf and Blues will continue to be at the Surf Cup which leads top teams, top players and top colleges to attend. Pretty simple concept with no marketing really needed.

Now let's talk YOUR personal preference since this is what this is really about. YOUR homer preference. For some of us it is just as far or farther to go to Norco. Not to mention it is YOUR preference to stay in a hotel when your team played at Surf Cup (or any other SoCal tournament/showcase) instead of simply driving home at the end of the day. Personally outside of once or twice during National Cup when the morning schedule was not favorable or when the tournament/showcase was out of state or in NorCal I almost always would drive home at the end of the day.

Next let's talk Oceanside vs. Norco. Umm the smell of cow crap versus the occasional smell of garbage (which I have never smelled and I have been to the facility numerous times). The opportunity to go to breweries and the beach or the 909 and whatever it is your guys do out there. By the way I never mentioned the Mercedes golf carts. I don't really care and personally I would never eat sushi from a soccer tournament (GROSS!!). I agree that their is really no comparison when you look at what showcase has the highest concentration of elite players and teams. No matter how hard you want it to be otherwise, any statement to the contrary just isn't true and you know it.
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We have never smelled "cow crap" but have smelled the garbage at Surf cup to the point I was nauseated. Bottom line though, I go where my daughter gets the best exposure, smell or no smell doesn't matter.
 
NoGoal said:
Cali, few responses.

1. Dorrance has already attended a centrally located college showcase where elite players participate in. You may have heard of it, it's called ECNL showcases. I've seen him there a few times.

2. Um, next year Silverlakes won't have the elite players, because girls DA clubs can't participate.

3. Worrying about $10 a day or $25 for 3 days of parking does suck, but is peanutes compared to club travel cost.

4. Oceanside may have a stench, but so does Silverlakes. When the breeze blows west to east....you get that great that fresh cow shit stench.

5. I have bought a car at Fletcher Jones and a few at Rusnak. Rusnak cuts better deals and has superior customer service. ;)
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DA girls won't be at Surf or Silverlakes!
 
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