SCDSL Flight 1 applications

You'll see some coaches scratching their head this coming season! For instance, we are an older b02 team half of them played u14 last year in premier, most teams in this age group were u13 gold/silver elite, and jumping to premier. We have played some of these teams and you can see the speed, size and experience between the two. I hope your coach/Doc was being realistic as to what bracket a team should play, this year has more factors then any other time in youth soccer. God luck and always have fun...
 
Just looking at my son's group I am glad to see that some teams are being realistic with what they have. It is not fun to beat teams up if they choose to play in the wrong flight. Last year we played a team in the flight 1 bracket who lost every game. I don't know how young boys can gain confidence by being pounded every week.

17 boys in the flight 1 04 group is great. We have or will play many of the teams by the start of season and there is some great competition. I look forward to watching some great futbol!
 
Looking at girls 2005, there are a few flight 1 teams that won 2 or less games last year in Flight 1 in gu11?
Did they have most of their team last year born in 2005?
 
SCDSL so much promise 1st couple of years but that has faded somewhat, league appears not be growing any longer and the management is somewhat ambivalent.

With the calender year change thought there would be a bunch more teams in this league compared to last year but that doesn't appear to be the case.

Flights 2's continue to get the most teams, Flight 3 less teams, and Flight 1 about the same or fewer teams.

The larger clubs have almost interclub play in some of these flights; (6) Six CDA Slammers teams in some of the flight 1's or (7) seven teams in Flight 2's for the Pats
in 03's for example indicates the league needs a better way to manage or organize the competition.
 
timbuck said:
Looking at girls 2005, there are a few flight 1 teams that won 2 or less games last year in Flight 1 in gu11?
Did they have most of their team last year born in 2005?
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G05 is actually pretty balanced in comparison to some of the other age groups, but there still are some teams in Flight 1 that make you scratch your head.
 
Technician72 said:
G05 is actually pretty balanced in comparison to some of the other age groups, but there still are some teams in Flight 1 that make you scratch your head.
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I know for a fact that 2 of the flight 1 team from last year gu11 that won 2 or less game was completely dismantled with only 1 or 2 players returning. However, after the rebuilding i don't know if they should be playing flight 1 or not.
 
atbebtg said:
I know for a fact that 2 of the flight 1 team from last year gu11 that won 2 or less game was completely dismantled with only 1 or 2 players returning. However, after the rebuilding i don't know if they should be playing flight 1 or not.
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There is no "should be".
 
I'm guessing, for this year, with all the shifting, if you mixed the flight 1 teams into the flight the flt 2 division, at least half of them would not finish at the top of the rankings. Obviously there is a cream of the crop whose composition is still mostly the same from last year and will be fantastic teams, but I'm guessing half of them are courtesy flt 1 slots, based on last year, which has little relevance to this year.
 
Unfortunately, your position as a " Flight I" team has little to do with your teams playing ability this year.
 
You'll hear people with older kids complain that the new age group changes means that their kid is going to "lose a year" because they will age out sooner.
But for the younger groups, some may consider this year to be a lost year too. There will be some unbalanced games across all age groups this year. I guess there always are, but this year should see some real discrepancies.
 
Flights now listed:
http://www.scdslsoccer.com/clubdirectory/flights/index_E.html

Since they kids have been very young players we always had a saying that has served them well " Not who you play but how you play"

Neither of them to this date have much concern to what teams they are facing ; being consistent in your play, tactics, style, communications to teammates & coaches it more important to them.

Nothing should be wasted, there are learning experiences in any situation.
 
younothat said:
SCDSL so much promise 1st couple of years but that has faded somewhat, league appears not be growing any longer and the management is somewhat ambivalent.
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Is it accurate that many (some?) of the coaches/clubs permit players to play in 2+ Saturday games for their Club's teams - maybe they don't play too many minutes in the morning, so they play for another club team in the afternoon? Not within the rules of course, but it sounds like many clubs do this?
 
jrcaesar said:
Is it accurate that many (some?) of the coaches/clubs permit players to play in 2+ Saturday games for their Club's teams - maybe they don't play too many minutes in the morning, so they play for another club team in the afternoon? Not within the rules of course, but it sounds like many clubs do this?
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No, haven't seen or heard about that in SCDSL. My kids played in the league first 3 years but have moved on .

You can club pass but not on the same day. Seen Saturday/Sunday passes either way or passing when a team has a bye or off week.

Playing for different teams the same day would be likely noticed either by the kids who play (know each other) or the roster review so I doubt you will see that unless some coaches want to risk suspensions & forfeits.
 
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younothat said:
No, haven't seen or heard about that in SCDSL. My kids played in the league first 3 years but have moved on .

You can club pass but not on the same day. Seen Saturday/Sunday passes either way or passing when a team has a bye or off week.

Playing for different teams the same day would be likely noticed either by the kids who play (know each other) or the roster review so I doubt you will see that unless some coaches want to risk suspensions & forfeits.
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Ok, thanks. It was suggested by a coach in a conversation I'd heard that "the other coaches do this" (and of course there are instances when some kids have bye weeks that they get club passed to other teams) but it struck me that this (2+ games in one day for diff. teams) likely was not true.

What I was seeing happen was players passed down to "get playing time" for a game, but that would push the lower team's players onto the bench that week. Or at least once where a coach really wanted to "help" the lower flight team, he'd pass down several of the best players -- who then played the whole game while the team's regular kids watched. Probably not how the player passes are supposed to work.
 
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....... it struck me that this (2+ games in one day for diff. teams) likely was not true.

What I was seeing happen was players passed down to "get playing time" for a game, but that would push the lower team's players onto the bench that week. Or at least once where a coach really wanted to "help" the lower flight team, he'd pass down several of the best players -- who then played the whole game while the team's regular kids watched. Probably not how the player passes are supposed to work.
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There is a SCDSL rule that prohibits any player playing for more than one team/day. Is the rule ever broken, I don't know but strange things have know to happen time to time.

As for player playing down a level and starting. It happens all the time. Not just players that don't get minutes on their team, looking for additional field time. I have seen Flight 1 starters play on Flight 3 team to secure table position during league play. I've also seem bottom flight 1 players on a team refusing to play down, when offered to gain field time. But, vast majority of the time, its because the team is short of players and the coach goes to upper tier team for help, rather than peer or lower tier team (some clubs only have one in each age group). Other example that often happens is a kid playing up a year and doesn't play as much so the player often guests own age and starts.

Playing time is strictly performance based, especially as they get older. Its really parents job to match the player's level and the team's level. DOCs will simply take the money for team that makes parents happen and let the kid flounder on a high level team. Just make sure that the player is in the top half of the team's level, and not the bottom half....

I know the league is supposed to be for development and often winning is treated like a sin because the coach played better players in the game over "less developed". The truth of the matter is that players that cannot make the right decisions, plays, and turns the ball over is not ready for the speed of plays and pressure at the level. It does nothing to continue with those players in that situation. Often it leads to undermine the development and results in the player liking soccer less and less.

Learning what it takes to win is a very important part of the development, and often is not discussed because its not skills and techniques. The mental and soccer IQ part of the game is often ignored in the "development" discussion. This include putting the individual effort - mentally and physically - to break into the starting 11 on the team.
 
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