Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

I just saw Beach's statement on joining GAL, they said "we are happy to be able to solve the showcase piece". According to many on here, Beach 1st team will play ECRL and second team GAL. Does that mean the beach first team will play in GAL showcase events?
Has anyone actually said which is first team? Or even clarified whether they are two teams or one?

I though everyone was keeping it a bit vague.
 
I blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile. GA is new DPL.

The blind squirrel apparently missed the press release on April 18, 2020 press release which is still on the DPL home page:

The DPL format that has served so many of our members well will be restructured and enhanced. With our players at the forefront of our thinking, we will implement a new tier called the “Girls Academy League”, consisting primarily of former Girls DA Clubs.

DPL now has two tiers: (1) Former DA = GA (2) DPL
 
I blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile. GA is new DPL.

"It was created through the collaboration between the Southwest Division DA clubs."

I knew it!!! Why was DPL created?
ECNL is a business and some people tried to hurt their brand in Socal. That is clear to me. I think Surf was caught in the middle and I'm sure they didn;t create the DPL to keep folks from going to ECNL. That makes ECNL tier 3 at some clubs and that can;t fly and that is not "Elite Soccer." They can;t market "Elite" if the clubs are not bringing their top teams.

Elite athlete. A person who is currently or has previously competed as a varsity player (individual or team), a professional player or a national or international level player.
 
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"It was created through the collaboration between the Southwest Division DA clubs." I knew it!!! Why was DPL created?
ECNL is a business and some people tried to hurt their brand in Socal. That is clear to me. I think Surf was caught in the middle and I'm sure they didn;t create the DPL to keep folks from going to ECNL. That makes ECNL tier 3 at some clubs and that can;t fly and that is not "Elite Soccer." They can;t market "Elite" if the clubs are not bringing their top teams.

Elite athlete. A person who is currently or has previously competed as a varsity player (individual or team), a professional player or a national or international level player.
Let's be honest here. All these other leagues are created by DOC's so kids don't leave their clubs to the top league(ECNL as of today) clubs which will affect there big salaries. Sure some of them care about the kids but many of them think paycheck and power first. DPL was created so 2nd team kids stay in the club and not go to average ECNL first teams instead. I do think there should be at least 2 big national leagues out there so no problem with GAL forming to create a place for many good players and clubs to play.
 
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Let's be honest here. All these other leagues are created by DOC's so kids don't leave their clubs to the top league(ECNL as of today) clubs which will affect there big salaries. Sure some of them care about the kids but many of them think paycheck and power first. DPL was created so 2nd team kids stay in the club and not go to average ECNL first teams instead. I do think there should be at least 2 big national leagues out there so no problem with GAL forming to create a place for many good players and clubs to play.
I agree. Have two competing leagues and let the consumer decide. National Championship between ECNL champ and The GA Champ. That would be 100% awesome and ok with this dad. The top teams from those clubs need to have their top teams in the GA league and then have 2nd team at ECLR to make a big game nest summer for the U17 age.
 
I don’t think the DOCs at GA are morally much different from the DOCs at ECNL.

But, at the moment, ECNL DOCs are the ones creating the split, so ECNL DOCs are are ones I hate.

There is not room for two national girls leagues outside of socal. You guys can support it. For the rest of the us, the split means worse games and thousands of dollars on unnecessary plane flights.
 
I don’t think the DOCs at GA are morally much different from the DOCs at ECNL.

But, at the moment, ECNL DOCs are the ones creating the split, so ECNL DOCs are are ones I hate.

There is not room for two national girls leagues outside of socal. You guys can support it. For the rest of the us, the split means worse games and thousands of dollars on unnecessary plane flights.
Well, the GDA is no more and the more I learn Dad of 4, the more I'm mad at the past leadership of the company that folded their tent sale on us with some families and clubs stuck under the tent. ECNL is the league to be in imo for college play and top, top competition. Socal will be find and so will Nocal having to leagues to prove which one is a more superior product. The following season is when the dust will settle and all eyes will be open to the truth. Let the consumer decide is my motto. Let's have two top leagues and then a grunge match nest summer at Stub Hub.
 
Who would have thought that US Soccer stepping out of the way was going to make things a bigger mess?
We had 2 competing leagues - DA and ECNL that were the top. Then you had DPL and ECNL RL as supposed "Feeder" teams or for players that couldn't dedicate to these programs.
Now we have:
  1. ECNL - Top league?
  2. ECNL Regional League - Which will have some former DA teams in it that think they belong in the top league.
  3. GAL - Which thinks it is still a top league. And you have clubs that will have teams in ECNL RL and GAL. Which is their top team? Do they want to try and win in ECNL RL to get promoted to Big ECNL. Or do they want to pump up the competitive aspect of GAL and tout GAL as on par with ECNL.
  4. DPL - DPL will have clubs from RL And GAL? Is this correct?
  5. SCDSL - This league was started and is run by the guys that are all clamoring for spots in the above leagues. Looking at the list of people on their "Technical Committee"- http://scdslsoccer.com/overview/technical-committee - I think this needs a bit of an update since club names and where these guys are coaching at has changed in the last few months. SCDSL should fold up shop and give everything back to Coast. But I'm sure if SCDSL closed up, then you'd have a bunch of clubs thinking they could start their own league and then screw things up even more.
 
Who would have thought that US Soccer stepping out of the way was going to make things a bigger mess?
We had 2 competing leagues - DA and ECNL that were the top. Then you had DPL and ECNL RL as supposed "Feeder" teams or for players that couldn't dedicate to these programs.
Now we have:
  1. ECNL - Top league?
  2. ECNL Regional League - Which will have some former DA teams in it that think they belong in the top league.
  3. GAL - Which thinks it is still a top league. And you have clubs that will have teams in ECNL RL and GAL. Which is their top team? Do they want to try and win in ECNL RL to get promoted to Big ECNL. Or do they want to pump up the competitive aspect of GAL and tout GAL as on par with ECNL.
  4. DPL - DPL will have clubs from RL And GAL? Is this correct?
  5. SCDSL - This league was started and is run by the guys that are all clamoring for spots in the above leagues. Looking at the list of people on their "Technical Committee"- http://scdslsoccer.com/overview/technical-committee - I think this needs a bit of an update since club names and where these guys are coaching at has changed in the last few months. SCDSL should fold up shop and give everything back to Coast. But I'm sure if SCDSL closed up, then you'd have a bunch of clubs thinking they could start their own league and then screw things up even more.
All because socal is the Mecca and some dads and biz folks see an opportunity. However, It's all ECNL's fault because they wouldn;t let the guys in who started DPL and all these leagues like SCDSL. Crazy stuff coach Buck :)
 
I find it incredible that people still don't understand how things work. DA didn't fail because they didn't let the girls play H.S. Soccer. They failed, to a large degree, because they have done a piss poor job of developing their money maker which is the USMNT. I know all of you on the "pay the women more" bandwagon hate to hear it but now you can see it unfolding in front of your eyes and you still refuse to accept it. The women recently won the world cup and did that fill up the coffers of US Soccer? No, and it likely never will. The Corona virus was just the straw (yes, a big straw) that broke the camels back but the fall was inevitable anyway. They didn't fail because of no H.S. Soccer. That doesn't even make sense. Hopefully, going forward, they separate the men from the women so that, yes, the women can see what they bring in and get paid what they deserve based on that and if the men stink of the field, then they take a hit. I think if they were separate already, the women side would be fine but they wouldn't be getting paid what they think they should be getting paid and on the men's side, being broke would finally force US Soccer to make drastic changes to their identification and selection process. Get rid of politics and select the best man or woman to wear the patch.

I disagree with you on a number of counts. First, the HS ban was critical to its failure, and there is no legitimate basis for believing otherwise. Club after club left for that express reason. Those clubs realized they were losing their customers, becoming less competitive with their competitors and would eventually go bankrupt If they stayed. Once they lost most of the best clubs due to the HS ban, GDA went into an irreversible death spiral. The amount of money USSF made (or didn’t) was irrelevant to GDA’s failure because, even if USSF were raking in billions, it would not have changed the fact that the HS ban would eventually put the clubs that participated in it out of business.

Second, you are wrong about the MNT being their main moneymaker. For many years the WNT has driven USSF’s main sources of revenue and profit, namely the Nike and VW contracts. USSF’s misogynistic accounting practices that fail to give the women credit for that, in the hope that it will dupe people like you into believing the MNT drives revenue, doesn’t make it true. Winning the WC continues to fill USSF’s coffers through those deals. All you need to do is look at the advertising backlash after USSF’s misogynistic court filings went public to realize that. Furthermore, the WNT has also caught or passed the MNT even with TV and ticket revenue.

USSF also has not done a poor job developing the MNT as a moneymaker. It is just a terrible entertainment product. The team is bad, lacks anyone with even the slightest shred of personality, and there doesn’t seem to be any real hope in sight going forward. The “next generation” can hardly find the field at their mostly middling level clubs and most of them still can’t displace the weak sauce players who couldn’t even qualify last time around. And although the men are not the reason Nike paid that much money to USSF, it has done everything that could possibly be done to build the MNT brand. If Nike could not help USSF wring more value out of the MNT, it cannot be done.

Claiming the WNT shouldn’t be paid equally because USSF can’t find a way for the turd that we call the MNT to generate as much revenue is about as misogynistic as it gets. Claiming (inaccurately) the WNT doesn’t drive USSF’s main sources of revenue is also pretty misogynistic. The fact is the women are responsible for much more of USSF’s revenue, and also the most profitable revenue. You can believe what you want, but the reality is that USSF is going to pay dearly for your way of thinking.
 
Who would have thought that US Soccer stepping out of the way was going to make things a bigger mess?
We had 2 competing leagues - DA and ECNL that were the top. Then you had DPL and ECNL RL as supposed "Feeder" teams or for players that couldn't dedicate to these programs.
Now we have:
  1. ECNL - Top league?
  2. ECNL Regional League - Which will have some former DA teams in it that think they belong in the top league.
  3. GAL - Which thinks it is still a top league. And you have clubs that will have teams in ECNL RL and GAL. Which is their top team? Do they want to try and win in ECNL RL to get promoted to Big ECNL. Or do they want to pump up the competitive aspect of GAL and tout GAL as on par with ECNL.
  4. DPL - DPL will have clubs from RL And GAL? Is this correct?
  5. SCDSL - This league was started and is run by the guys that are all clamoring for spots in the above leagues. Looking at the list of people on their "Technical Committee"- http://scdslsoccer.com/overview/technical-committee - I think this needs a bit of an update since club names and where these guys are coaching at has changed in the last few months. SCDSL should fold up shop and give everything back to Coast. But I'm sure if SCDSL closed up, then you'd have a bunch of clubs thinking they could start their own league and then screw things up even more.

Instead of working together the parties involved went for the immediate fix to attempt to keep the dollars rolling in and claim there somehow more '"elite" than the other league.

What they should have done is take a pause, work Together to make things better, more affordable to more players, give back some of the funds for services not rendered, take feedback and suggest from players and parents and not cater to the old guard which has just created more of a self serving mess that now has people scrambling around around for no good reasons.

Participation in youth sports I'm afraid is going to suffer as a result.
 
Who would have thought that US Soccer stepping out of the way was going to make things a bigger mess?
We had 2 competing leagues - DA and ECNL that were the top. Then you had DPL and ECNL RL as supposed "Feeder" teams or for players that couldn't dedicate to these programs.
Now we have:
  1. ECNL - Top league?
  2. ECNL Regional League - Which will have some former DA teams in it that think they belong in the top league.
  3. GAL - Which thinks it is still a top league. And you have clubs that will have teams in ECNL RL and GAL. Which is their top team? Do they want to try and win in ECNL RL to get promoted to Big ECNL. Or do they want to pump up the competitive aspect of GAL and tout GAL as on par with ECNL.
  4. DPL - DPL will have clubs from RL And GAL? Is this correct?
  5. SCDSL - This league was started and is run by the guys that are all clamoring for spots in the above leagues. Looking at the list of people on their "Technical Committee"- http://scdslsoccer.com/overview/technical-committee - I think this needs a bit of an update since club names and where these guys are coaching at has changed in the last few months. SCDSL should fold up shop and give everything back to Coast. But I'm sure if SCDSL closed up, then you'd have a bunch of clubs thinking they could start their own league and then screw things up even more.
I thought DPL was becoming GAL? So there will still be a DPL even with GAL being created?

So for instance Beach would look like this:
1st team ECRL
2nd team GAL
3rd team SCDSL

Albion:
1st team GAL
2nd team DPL
3rd team scdsl

Do I have that right? Really confusing and like you said, a bigger mess. Let me know if I got it wrong somewhere.
 
I agree. I have one daughter entering her third year studying nursing, a son on the path to be a firefighter, and my soccer playing daughter planning to go to grad school to be a Physician's Assistant though I must say I am glad that they are all still in college right now.
Sending my oldest off to college this year with a major in nursing. Sounds like your kids are well on their way to becoming great adults.
 
I have no idea. I want it to all work out for all everyone involved. I was hoping the Girls Academy League would be for the top 2% and the true pathway to the pros but it's about college, just like ECNL. Socal will have many teams to choose from. Does GAL have a price point to reserve a spot?Tournaments will be fun with GAL and ECNL teams battling it out for fun.

This past summer, Surf Cup, had top teams from ECNL and DA. So this thought isn't something new....
 
Sending my oldest off to college this year with a major in nursing. Sounds like your kids are well on their way to becoming great adults.

Thanks! Not sure if you nursing kid plays soccer but we found out that college soccer is not compatible with a nursing major. Too many all day upper division clinic classes. So she changed to Health Sciences major (essentially premed). She can still be a nurse by going to grad school or an accelerated nursing school but now wants to go to PA school.

My other daughter just finishing her Soph year at Chico. In CA almost all public schools require undergrad nursing majors to reapply. The admissions standards are way harder then undergrad. Plus each school only has an upper division class of about 40. You end up with several hundred Soph applying from the school plus every Soph from every other school plus everyone that went to Junior College. Its insane! Going out of state to a direct entry nursing program makes more sense. At this point she is going private the last two years at West Coast. It costs a lot but she can live at home.
 
I thought DPL was becoming GAL? So there will still be a DPL even with GAL being created?

So for instance Beach would look like this:
1st team ECRL
2nd team GAL
3rd team SCDSL

Albion:
1st team GAL
2nd team DPL
3rd team scdsl

Do I have that right? Really confusing and like you said, a bigger mess. Let me know if I got it wrong somewhere.
 
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