Rumors about ECNL girls admitting one or more top GA clubs for 24-25 season.

Larzby said:
What we have in our current system is socialism for the corporations and entrenched interests and everyone else gets to fight for scraps in the "free market"
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That is pretty much the same thing I said. America (Capitalisim) is not a Free Market system.
 
whatithink said:
For sure, in AZ the ECNL/EA teams are not great. Actually, there are some pretty bad MLSN teams too. That said, if ECNL can tell Surf to drop boys DA (then) for boys ECNL to get their girls into ECNL, then they can do it to anyone. From an AZ perspective, they could tell say Rising and if Rising said no, they'd kick them - its not like any of the AZ girls ECNL clubs rock it after all.

And yes, Tuzos are the best boys development club in AZ, hands down.

The problem in AZ with the state leagues is that the big clubs created SAAZ and pulled their teams. They then demonstrated that they could do just as bad a job in a diluted league with many divisions made up of teams from the 2 clubs only ... an absolute shit show.
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ECNL making the boys program join ECNL was not a requirement by ECNL for the girls program to be added. (really? ECNL would turn down Surf Girls?) Surf made a decision at the time that ECNL boys was the better decision for the program. I believe the same was true for the Pats. Both of the boys programs were extremely strong in the DA program before it folded. The new MLSN league was unproven and ECNL was chosen.

Clearly the new SDFC will be looking for local talent as time goes on and it will be hard for the Surf Boys to keep players that are recruited by SDFC.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
No clue, but it would be nice for everyone to have more local clubs to play against.

It's silly that Socal players are driving to Vegas, AZ, or the Central Valley just for higher level competition when the same level of competition is available locally
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Would love to compete with you guys in San Diego. Not much competition with the current programs. Rebels have a team or two and Del Mar is really struggling.
 
Surfer_dad said:
ECNL making the boys program join ECNL was not a requirement by ECNL for the girls program to be added. (really? ECNL would turn down Surf Girls?) Surf made a decision at the time that ECNL boys was the better decision for the program. I believe the same was true for the Pats. Both of the boys programs were extremely strong in the DA program before it folded. The new MLSN league was unproven and ECNL was chosen.

Clearly the new SDFC will be looking for local talent as time goes on and it will be hard for the Surf Boys to keep players that are recruited by SDFC.
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Not so sure about that.

The MLS homegrown rule applies to all players in a 60 (or 70 not quite sure) mile radius of the club. What this means is that SDFC can pull/claim talent from Tijuana. My bet is that this is where they get most of their players. I also bet they make a lot of $$$ selling off players with transfer fees.
 
Shooting Star said:
So same league now but 3rd team. ECNL- RL 2?
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DPL helped GA get off the ground when it first started. I think DPL also controls the GA board of directors.

My bet is that DPL and ECRL start doing combined showcases. Financially it's in both leagues best interests and helps scouts. Also ECNL no longer has to put as much resources into ECRL and DPL gets control of the 2nd team market.

But who knows that's just my guess.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
DPL helped GA get off the ground when it first started. I think DPL also controls the GA board of directors.

My bet is that DPL and ECRL start doing combined showcases. Financially it's in both leagues best interests and helps scouts. Also ECNL no longer has to put as much resources into ECRL and DPL gets control of the 2nd team market.

But who knows that's just my guess.
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I can’t keep up with all the leagues! 🤣
 
Think about the registration platforms....

GA now sanctioned by US Soccer so leaving USSSA
ECNL & RL both register under US Club Soccer
DPL uses USSSA for registration

My guess is the move by US Soccer to take the GA in will trigger a new league in the GA, essentially the NWSL Next everyone keeps talking about. If you notice several GA clubs are getting 2 teams in the GA, this could be to spin them in the NWSL Next league....

This now would leave DPL as the 3rd tier for that league. No idea what the announcement will be but hopeful it is a promotion relegation or a combining of leagues...
 
zags77 said:
Think about the registration platforms....

GA now sanctioned by US Soccer so leaving USSSA
ECNL & RL both register under US Club Soccer
DPL uses USSSA for registration

My guess is the move by US Soccer to take the GA in will trigger a new league in the GA, essentially the NWSL Next everyone keeps talking about. If you notice several GA clubs are getting 2 teams in the GA, this could be to spin them in the NWSL Next league....

This now would leave DPL as the 3rd tier for that league. No idea what the announcement will be but hopeful it is a promotion relegation or a combining of leagues...
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promotion/relegation would be awesome. Keep the clubs on their toes. My guess is they are formalizing the tier system with GA. GA first team.. DPL second. Of course that will come with badging changes because why not.. makes everyone buy new stuff. Now the NWSL next could add another wrinkle but not sure the NWSL clubs have the money the MLS do for academies. Would be more like a MSL-Next lite as it would be name only possible path for the "homegrown" label for draft.
 
tjinaz said:
promotion/relegation would be awesome. Keep the clubs on their toes. My guess is they are formalizing the tier system with GA. GA first team.. DPL second. Of course that will come with badging changes because why not.. makes everyone buy new stuff. Now the NWSL next could add another wrinkle but not sure the NWSL clubs have the money the MLS do for academies. Would be more like a MSL-Next lite as it would be name only possible path for the "homegrown" label for draft.
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I agree, formalizing NWSL Next is worthless until NWSL implements a homegrown rule.

I really hope when NWSL Next happens that they just copy everything MLS Next has already setup. 🙏 It would make everything so much easier for everyone involved.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
I agree, formalizing NWSL Next is worthless until NWSL implements a homegrown rule.

I really hope when NWSL Next happens that they just copy everything MLS Next has already setup. 🙏 It would make everything so much easier for everyone involved.
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I'd love it if we had a clear pipeline. But until US Soccer takes a more prominent and forceful role in all of this on both the girls and boys side, I don't see how we get far
 
Carlsbad7 said:
I agree, formalizing NWSL Next is worthless until NWSL implements a homegrown rule.

I really hope when NWSL Next happens that they just copy everything MLS Next has already setup. 🙏 It would make everything so much easier for everyone involved.
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That would be nice but .. the money. MLS teams are starting to sell players and using that to fund academies. The women are not close to that and the valuation of men's vs women's players is huge as well. Not only do the women's teams make a fraction of what the MLS teams do but they are not have nearly the infrastructure. Those that are paired with a MLS team (RSL/Royals) can likely do it as they would just leverage the academy already in place, same fields, same physios etc but others SD Wave etc do not. Think that will be a struggle not to mention the "alumi" factor with ECNL. Will be interesting.
 
Noticer said:
I'd love it if we had a clear pipeline. But until US Soccer takes a more prominent and forceful role in all of this on both the girls and boys side, I don't see how we get far
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I’m optimistic that we’re closer on the girls side of this. NWSL has gained a lot of popularity these last few years. And now with the addition of youth players at the highest levels in the US, I would expect more professional pathways being developed sooner than later. I also think the girls pathway will supersede the boys pathway.

In the US, there’s way more interest for women’s soccer and advocacy within the girls youth soccer program and the USWNT compared to the boys in my opinion especially compared to other women sports. I don’t think the girls side needs to be tied to or restricted to what’s happening on the boys side. The previous success of the USWNT, and now the global advancement of women’s soccer will continue to drive the women’s side independently of the men in my opinion.
 
TeamDadJokes said:
I’m optimistic that we’re closer on the girls side of this. NWSL has gained a lot of popularity these last few years. And now with the addition of youth players at the highest levels in the US, I would expect more professional pathways being developed sooner than later. I also think the girls pathway will supersede the boys pathway.

In the US, there’s way more interest for women’s soccer and advocacy within the girls youth soccer program and the USWNT compared to the boys in my opinion especially compared to other women sports. I don’t think the girls side needs to be tied to or restricted to what’s happening on the boys side. The previous success of the USWNT, and now the global advancement of women’s soccer will continue to drive the women’s side independently of the men in my opinion.
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I would like to think so but how far are we from US Soccer subsidizing the pay of the USWNT players in NWSL? What 18months? As much as they advanced their causes for "equal" pay they burned some bridges along the way. NWSL is getting to the point where the business model will have to work on its own and it is dangerously tied to a USWNT that in no longer as dominant as it was.
Tllurking said:
Looks a lot like the USYS logo to me.
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tomorrow is the day... all will be revealed.
 
So DPL just made their announcement.

Here's the Net...

- DPL will stay at the club level for girls
- A level above is being created called National Development League which are just teams. (I assume the players will be picked from DPL/EA teams)
- Top DPL and NAL clubs and teams will participate together in events.

- EA will stay at the club level for girls
- A level above is being created called National Development League which are just teams. (I assume the players will be picked from DPL/EA teams)
- Top EA and NAL clubs and teams will participate together in events.

What this sounds like is DPL and EA are working together to do events. DPL gets the girls and EA gets the boys.

There's still more to tease about NAL. It will be provided on 4/4/2024
 
Press release from DPL:

INTRODUCING THE NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE:
A NEW ERA CONNECTING LEAGUES, CLUBS & TEAMS IN YOUTH SOCCER

LOS ANGELES, 04/02/2024 – In a landmark move that promises to reshape the youth soccer landscape, the Development Player League (DPL) and the Elite Academy League (EA) are proud to collaborate and announce the launch of the National Development League (NDL) for the 2024 season, creating a tier of innovation for leagues, clubs and teams.

The National Development League is the first of its kind, a national team-based league born out of a vision to bring teams together, creating a cohesive network that fosters growth, development, and competition at the highest level while serving as a foundational platform for clubs to demonstrate their potential to advance within the Club vs Club ecosystem.

"We're thrilled to join forces with the NDL to enhance opportunities for young female athletes. Incorporating a Team vs Team dynamic aligns perfectly with our mission of fostering Meaningful and Purposeful experiences. This marks another milestone in the DPL's journey as a pioneer and influencer in youth soccer. Importantly, this enhancement strengthens the DPL without altering the overall structure or intent of the league. It's a groundbreaking collaborative initiative within the youth soccer community." – Lee Hudson, DPL League Development Manager.

The NDL is built on the foundation of inclusivity and opportunity. Its mission is to make the highest levels of the game accessible, allowing players, teams, and clubs to earn their place among the elite through merit and performance. By forging a dynamic National Development League Network, it ensures talent has the visibility and the opportunity to rise to the forefront.

"The DPL and EA share in the desire to elevate clubs by helping them perform at higher levels and create clear player and club pathways. Working together to create an inclusive way for teams to work toward a club v club model was feedback that was consistently coming into our groups, which forced everyone to sit on the same side of the table and support the creation of the National Development League. Our desire is to create opportunity for more!” – Ryan Miller, EA commissioner.

As a Pathway Alliance member, the NDL is committed to creating experiential opportunities that drive growth and development from the team versus team level upwards. This includes league play, event access with DPL and EA, talent ID pathways for individual players, and substantial investments in the players, coaches, and clubs that form the backbone of the league. The goal is to enrich our national soccer ecosystem, providing a ladder of opportunity that spans local, regional, and national competitions.

At its core, the National Development League is a network of team versus team youth soccer leagues acting as a proving ground for clubs to access the National Club vs Club Leagues, the DPL and EA. This structure is designed to deliver superior experiences for all members, from players and coaches to players and their families, ensuring that the journey through youth soccer is both rewarding and transformative.

The NDL invites leagues from across the nation to join this groundbreaking initiative as we embark on a journey to elevate youth soccer to new heights. This is more than just a league; it's a movement to champion the potential of every young athlete through competition, development, and opportunity.

For more information on how to become a part of the National Development League or to learn more about the league's structure and benefits, please visit our website www.NationalDevelopmentLeague.com.

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ABOUT THE NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE
The National Development League, created by the Development Player League (DPL) and the Elite Academy League (EA), is the only national youth soccer league designed to maximize opportunities for individual teams to compete at the highest levels with an objective to earn opportunities in the club vs club platforms, the DPL & EA.

Through a transparent and accessible pathway, the NDL aims to revolutionize youth soccer in the United States, promoting growth, excellence, and the development of young talent.
 
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