Riots

Lion Eyes said:
Crime? Perhaps there were complaints from folks in the building about strangers loitering at the garage entrance...?
If someone has been arrested, they need to produce identification.
Trolley station, bus station, rapid transit train...all different - all the same.
Come on Magoo, don't play coy, you think you know everything...anyways, I thought Magoo was involved in an altercation at a train station involving a cane & an assault of some sort? No?
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"Perhaps" is the best you can do?

In California, peaceful citizens should not be expected to be detained or arrested by police unless there is suspicion of a crime having been committed. What was the crime?

In one of the videos, the driver of the black car refuses to provide ID to one of the female cops. Her response is "OK, then".

I don't understand why you use the moniker Magoo - I am neither short, bald, nor fat. I do, however, use a cane.

My assault done to my person was next to the trolley tracks, across the street from the Central Library, right about here --

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espola said:
What was the crime that prompted the initial contact?
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We don't know because half the video has no sound. Clearly cops are there talking to people. It's their business. Maybe complaints from the community. Maybe he resembles someone they're looking for. Maybe one day all black people will be smart enough to realize they aren't lawyers and will be better off talking respectfully instead of bringing an attitude.
 
espola said:
Police officers in California can ask people to identify themselves when there is reasonable suspicion that they have committed a crime. What was the crime in this situation?

This was not at the trolley station. The subject had taken the trolley to Grossmont Station and then crossed the street to private property where he was waiting for his friends to let him in the building. The cop didn't believe that, and then when the friends actually showed up, the cop lost his cool. If you look at the videos, the person most upset in my opinion was the friend who was driving the black car.

Who is Magoo and what does Magoo know first hand?
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How do you know there wasn't one? And there doesn't need to be suspicion of a crime. Cops can run your license plate at an intersection, because they can, and if you have issues they pull you over. Totally legal.

Again... maybe if 13% weren't responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime, there wouldn't be profiling. You think?
 
espola said:
"Perhaps" is the best you can do?

In California, peaceful citizens should not be expected to be detained or arrested by police unless there is suspicion of a crime having been committed. What was the crime?

In one of the videos, the driver of the black car refuses to provide ID to one of the female cops. Her response is "OK, then".

I don't understand why you use the moniker Magoo - I am neither short, bald, nor fat. I do, however, use a cane.

My assault done to my person was next to the trolley tracks, across the street from the Central Library, right about here --

www.google.com

San Diego · California

California
www.google.com www.google.com
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My bad, obviously you were on site and you're trained in police tactics...pffftttt.
I wasn't on site therefore I used the word "perhaps"....
What one officer does, may or may not explain why or what another one did or didn't do in a similar situation.
And you wonder why you've earned the moniker Maqoo...
As I said, trolley stops are areas susceptible to crime and are patrolled because of that.
You've been called Magoo for several years now, are just realizing this? Perhaps clarity is returning....
 
The Outlaw said:
How do you know there wasn't one? And there doesn't need to be suspicion of a crime. Cops can run your license plate at an intersection, because they can, and if you have issues they pull you over. Totally legal.

Again... maybe if 13% weren't responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime, there wouldn't be profiling. You think?
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Using logic, reason & facts mean little with some folks here in the kitchen...
 
Lion Eyes said:
My bad, obviously you were on site and you're trained in police tactics...pffftttt.
I wasn't on site therefore I used the word "perhaps"....
What one officer does, may or may not explain why or what another one did or didn't do in a similar situation.
And you wonder why you've earned the moniker Maqoo...
As I said, trolley stops are areas susceptible to crime and are patrolled because of that.
You've been called Magoo for several years now, are just realizing this? Perhaps clarity is returning....
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I wasn't at a trolley stop, and neither was the subject of this discussion.

Thinking about the name Magoo - that means I can go out in public, even to a hypothetical gathering of frequency posters, and no one will know who I am.

As for the actions of other officers, none of the at least 5 other officers at the scene stepped in when the hothead was escalating things needlessly - just like in Minneapolis 2 days earlier.
 
espola said:
I wasn't at a trolley stop, and neither was the subject of this discussion.

Thinking about the name Magoo - that means I can go out in public, even to a hypothetical gathering of frequency posters, and no one will know who I am.

As for the actions of other officers, none of the at least 5 other officers at the scene stepped in when the hothead was escalating things needlessly - just like in Minneapolis 2 days earlier.
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Maybe that's because the escalation was necessary. I mean, not once have you ever supported the police in any one of these hood rat cases.
 
espola said:
Why was the escalation necessary? Have you watched the videos?
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I watch all the videos. This escalation was necessary because he started running his mouth and tried to walk away. Floyd was necessary... Brooks was necessary... Rice was necessary... Crutcher was necessary... Sterling was necessary... Crawford was necessary... DuBose was necessary... Garner was necessary...

You want me to continue?
 
The Outlaw said:
I watch all the videos. This escalation was necessary because he started running his mouth and tried to walk away. Floyd was necessary... Brooks was necessary... Rice was necessary... Crutcher was necessary... Sterling was necessary... Crawford was necessary... DuBose was necessary... Garner was necessary...

You want me to continue?
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He wasn't walking away. He stood up to get into his friend's car, the friends he told the cop he was waiting for since the first minute of the encounter.
 
espola said:
He wasn't walking away. He stood up to get into his friend's car, the friends he told the cop he was waiting for since the first minute of the encounter.
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BA = Bad Apple
IV = Innocent Victim
FD = Friendly Driver

BA: What are you doing here?
IV: Waiting for my friends to come back from shopping so I can go up to their place with them.

<<Friends drive up and greet IV, who rises to speak with them>>

<<non escalating response>>

BA: Oh, these are your friends? That checks out. You're free to go.

<<escalating response>>

BA: Your hands touched me when I was shoving you down! That's assault on a police officer!. You're under arrest!
IV: I didn't touch you, you touched me.
FD: WTF!?!?!?!
 
espola said:
"Perhaps" is the best you can do?

In California, peaceful citizens should not be expected to be detained or arrested by police unless there is suspicion of a crime having been committed. What was the crime?

In one of the videos, the driver of the black car refuses to provide ID to one of the female cops. Her response is "OK, then".

I don't understand why you use the moniker Magoo - I am neither short, bald, nor fat. I do, however, use a cane.

My assault done to my person was next to the trolley tracks, across the street from the Central Library, right about here --

www.google.com

San Diego · California

California
www.google.com www.google.com
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Nice deflection, Magoo.
 
espola said:
He wasn't walking away. He stood up to get into his friend's car, the friends he told the cop he was waiting for since the first minute of the encounter.
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He wasn't dismissed yet by the man. That's part of the problem... the man decides when the conversation is over, not Dontavius.
 
espola said:
BA = Bad Apple
IV = Innocent Victim
FD = Friendly Driver

BA: What are you doing here?
IV: Waiting for my friends to come back from shopping so I can go up to their place with them.

<<Friends drive up and greet IV, who rises to speak with them>>

<<non escalating response>>

BA: Oh, these are your friends? That checks out. You're free to go.

<<escalating response>>

BA: Your hands touched me when I was shoving you down! That's assault on a police officer!. You're under arrest!
IV: I didn't touch you, you touched me.
FD: WTF!?!?!?!
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You missed the part before all of that... as usual. Cops don't run to help their partners when black people behave.
 
espola said:
I wasn't at a trolley stop, and neither was the subject of this discussion.

Thinking about the name Magoo - that means I can go out in public, even to a hypothetical gathering of frequency posters, and no one will know who I am.

As for the actions of other officers, none of the at least 5 other officers at the scene stepped in when the hothead was escalating things needlessly - just like in Minneapolis 2 days earlier.
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Sheriff Joe said:
www.dailywire.com

REPORT: Chicago Prosecutor Dismissed Thousands Of Felony Cases Including Gun Crimes Cases

Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx pledged Monday to bring the dozens of looters and rioters who did a reported $60 million in damages Sunday night to justice, but a new report from the Chicago Tribune calls into question Foxx’s commitment to seeing certain felony cases through. According to...
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That black leadership is doing wonders for Chicago.
 
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