baldref
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if someone doesn't understand those perfect examples, well..... you know.
Quick offside question
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coachrefparent
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Most of them are not the "trick" play people were describing...
baldref
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Who said trick play?
What he was talking about was a player in an offside position that makes a feint at the ball and another inside player runs on to it.
I guess that difficult for you to grasp
Most of the most recent examples shown are players making it obvious they are not going to play the ball by stopping their run, backing away, or putting up their hands in a mock surrender motion.
baldref
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Senility is difficult I guess
Since you have nothing to contribute except insults, I guess it is clear to all why you chose Grumpy as your avatar.
Definitelynotanotherref
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The 2nd MLS video has the attacker fall down because of how badly he whiffed the kick.
coachrefparent
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I was the one asking for links:
What he was talking about was a player in an offside position that makes a feint at the ball and another inside player runs on to it.
Right, and very few of the examples show this. Most are just players that are not offside.
baldref
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but some do. which of course is the point.
Son's 05 team had an Early Flag offside call go against them yesterday from a 65+ ref (): 3 attackers heading into the play, referee calls one for being offside (not yet impacting play) before the 3rd one (the fastest) sweeps in to play the ball. Would have tied the game.
"impacting play" is one of those referee judgement calls we have all come to love and respect.
Got a video?
Surfref
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Oh, Jesus help this man
Surfref
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Son's 05 team had an Early Flag offside call go against them yesterday from a 65+ ref (
That is why referees need to wait and see what happens. My very good State ref AR raise the flag early on a ball headed toward the keeper with an offside player in pursuit. I ignored the flag and let the play proceed. Keeper got there first, sent the ball to the other half of the field, and player got a shot on goal. At halftime to my surprise the AR apologized to me for not letting the play develop.
Surfref
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No it is clearly defined during the numerous Referee training sessions.
I have to admit that from your description I was envisioning a scripted play where a through ball is intentionally played to a PIOP and the PIOP pursues the ball and at the last second the PIOP peels off the ball and a player who had come from an onside position takes possession. The videos to me show natural reactions to the run of play and not a scripted or set plays where the ball is intentionally played to a PIOP. Nor do they seem to show any case where there was risk of significant physical contact from the PIOP, although they're good examples of offside no calls.
Surfref
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I don’t know of any videos showing actual set plays. I will ask my daughter if her team has a video I can use.
coachrefparent
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Thanks for putting it so much better than I did. This is what I have been trying to say to the bald one.
Thanks. On rare occasions I'm able to articulate a coherent thought.
Surfref
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These two video clips were part of the monthly referee association training on Law 11 Offside. Determination of the Cal South instructors and all of the referees in the room was no offside and goal should have counted. CR should have waved down the AR.
TangoCity
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Awesome. Thanks for the update. Hopefully the clips contributed to a good discussion and worthwhile training to the group.
Can we get the goal back, lol? 1-1 tie instead of 0-1 loss.
Just A Dad
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yesterday I thought my daughters AR missed a offsides call and I said you missed that one and he explained why it wasnt offsides. I was recording on my Ipad and at half time i watched the play and he was correct the other team was not offsides. I told him i watched the video and he was correct. He gave a little fist pump and told me he likes when parents have to admit he's right.