keep in mind the quality of the fields as well. Most of the non-varsity games in our area are on patchy dirt/crabgrass. Tough to make passes when the ball is skipping around in unexpected directions. Much easier to boot it
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keep in mind the quality of the fields as well. Most of the non-varsity games in our area are on patchy dirt/crabgrass. Tough to make passes when the ball is skipping around in unexpected directions. Much easier to boot it
Or maybe the schools figured out that they are better off to play without parents around
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Normally I'd rebut this... but nobody knows deflection like you.
Has to be Magoo commenting from the home again!
Understood, but DD is on the varsity team and they play/practice on turf. Every game (so far) has been on turf as well.
Here's another perspective on why teams don't build out of the back in high school.
Many JV and Frosh/Soph coaches are former players at the high school (maybe the graduated last year). Some are local club coaches. Some are biology teachers. Lots of varsity coaches have club experience and may have a few licenses. At the JV and Frosh/soph level all you need is to take the NFHS online course.
Teams typically have at least 20 players on the roster. It is pretty hard to run an effective practice with 1 coach and that many players. Especially a bunch of giggling freshman. So you have a new coach (who may not have ever been taught to play out of the back by any of her former coaches. Especially if she was the star forward). And you have a large roster of girls that haven't played together before. And you have a strong sense of school pride and REALLY wanting to win against your buddies at other schools. And you have a pretty short season with minimal time in between games. And you have girls who are getting hurt (Great to play out of the back when your starting back line is all healthy. But if the back up isn't as strong, you risk it).
You have 90 minutes 2-3 times per week and 2 games per week. And the "season" is really the month of January. Not saying it's the right way to do things, but I understand why teams play this way.
Many JV and Frosh/Soph coaches are former players at the high school (maybe the graduated last year). Some are local club coaches. Some are biology teachers. Lots of varsity coaches have club experience and may have a few licenses. At the JV and Frosh/soph level all you need is to take the NFHS online course.
Teams typically have at least 20 players on the roster. It is pretty hard to run an effective practice with 1 coach and that many players. Especially a bunch of giggling freshman. So you have a new coach (who may not have ever been taught to play out of the back by any of her former coaches. Especially if she was the star forward). And you have a large roster of girls that haven't played together before. And you have a strong sense of school pride and REALLY wanting to win against your buddies at other schools. And you have a pretty short season with minimal time in between games. And you have girls who are getting hurt (Great to play out of the back when your starting back line is all healthy. But if the back up isn't as strong, you risk it).
You have 90 minutes 2-3 times per week and 2 games per week. And the "season" is really the month of January. Not saying it's the right way to do things, but I understand why teams play this way.
MyDaughter said that there are 2 DA clubs on his dd's high school team, so I was questioning that because I thought CIF San Diego does not allowing DA players even at private schools this year/need based exemptions. He clarified it by saying DPL players are on the team.
But maybe someone can clarify for me San Diego CIF rules this year:
I know that many DA teams do not allow their players to play high school soccer (I am correct that it is a club rule or is it a DA Rule?)
Last year, DA players were allowed to practice with their DA teams and also play high school if they had an exemption-enrolled in a private school with a scholarship predicated on playing high school soccer.
This year, I heard that no DA players could play high school soccer in San Diego -CIF was not granted exemptions.
But then I saw some DA players on high school rosters. Did the players quit DA and plan to rejoin the same or other team after the high school season? OR are they still allowing exemptions for private school players.
When my ds was playing, the loophole was easy to get around. Quit DA during high school and rejoin afterwards. But I thought they did away with the loophole?
It is, if you pose it as a question. Which you do.
DA has a rule that you can’t play any other soccer. Some can get exemptions.
High School has a rule that during the season, you can’t participate in the same sport with an outside team. (Doesn’t matter if it’s DA, dpl, AYSO or even a pick up scrimmage with lots of your teammates). The Hs rule is not specific to DA). If the high school (or really if a rival high school) has proof that players are attending practices with the club, that high school would likely have to forfeit games.
I’m not sure what the consequences are if a DA player is on a HS team without a waiver. Will US soccer or the club kick them out?
High School has a rule that during the season, you can’t participate in the same sport with an outside team. (Doesn’t matter if it’s DA, dpl, AYSO or even a pick up scrimmage with lots of your teammates). The Hs rule is not specific to DA). If the high school (or really if a rival high school) has proof that players are attending practices with the club, that high school would likely have to forfeit games.
I’m not sure what the consequences are if a DA player is on a HS team without a waiver. Will US soccer or the club kick them out?
For example?
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Chiming in.. High school/CIF rule is that a high school player may play the same sport if that sport has less than 1/2 the players on the court as the high school sport. eg, a high school basketball player cannot play in a 3v3 basketball tournament but a high school volleyball player may play in 2v2 beach volleyball tournament.
Presumably, high school soccer players could play/practice 5v5 futsal team/tournament.
DA does have a rule that says no high school soccer. Exceptions to this rule can/do include DA players playing on a private high school soccer team when said players are on soccer-related scholarship.
One just has to look at your posts. Or this one of course, conveniently.
Nonsense.
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Would it make sense to move high school to full year season - like they're looking to do with college - and then have one game on Saturday's?
Could pay the coaches 50% to 100% of a teacher's salary - i.e. if they coach just Varsity, or both JV and Varsity. (Assumes 4 practices per week at 2 hours per practice and 30 games per year)
I don’t know why I am thinking that there are no exemptions in San Diego this year but OC still have them.
Your right, deflection also comes in singular words (like “nonsense”) and from denial.
That's not a deflection, it's a dismissal.
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believe there's a private OC high school that has several Pats DA players on their high school roster...
Is it the one where pats coaches are coaching there this year? The Tartans?
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not sure. just heard thru this forum a while back and glanced at the roster to confirm. forget which school.
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No, that would not make sense for many reasons. Field space being the biggest one.