President Joe Biden

[Grace T.]

Corporate money could swing either way (& swings both ways) at the drop of a hat. Corporations have zero political allegiance. They want stability and, frankly, control. T was not stable - he did a lot that the corporations really like, traditional conservative policies on tax and regulations, and then he did things they hate, on trade tariffs and fostering instability, not traditional conservative policies. Rs moving away from foreign wars is very funny - there are a plethora of R hawks.

As for your coalitions - the poor and working class will get shafted either way (see corporations), the rich will get richer either way and the middle class have a block that can swing either way (they just swung D because they couldn't take T anymore). Politicians like cultural wars because they don't get judged on policy. This isn't uniquely American, you can see the same thing in Europe, e.g. see the UK & Brexit.

The r party is moving towards trade protectionism, is hostile to illegal immigration, and populism. Corporations (for fear of the sanders economic liberal wing) are moving to embrace diversity wokeism. Big corps like McConnell Cheney Romney type republicanism but are increasingly tilting d

you’ve basically outlined the problem for the d coalition in the tensions between rich and poor since those form the 2 poles of their governance. The suburban Upper middle class is also not going back r as long as they embrace the populist America first rabble. The d coalition is bigger but more unstable....it’s been held together this round because Biden campaigned from his basement and was an Everyman to everyone (remember him promising to ban fracking then saying fracking was ok???)

 

[espola]

no, like the Antifa rioters before them, you round up and prosecute those that actually rioted. Trump didn’t legally incite...his speech called for peaceful protest and he told them to go home...barring some other evidence legally it ain’t there...anymore than sanders can be said to have incited the scalise shooting or Harris the Antifa violence.

Fascist bullshit.

 

[Grace T.]

Fascist bullshit.

“oh Magoo you’ve done it again!”

 

[espola]

“oh Magoo you’ve done it again!”

Your comments are not going to age well.

 

[Grace T.]

Your comments are not going to age well.

kind of like you,huh?

 

[Desert Hound]

Sure, but it was widely quoted in Oct/Nov with filling the SCOTUS seat, that's what I was referring to.

I understand. And when they (the Rs) made that comment it was in part a reference to what Obama said. As in remember what you guys told us just a few short years ago?

 

[espola]

kind of like you,huh?

I have posted nothing to be ashamed of. You, on the other hand, are supporting an attempt to overthrow the best government the world has ever seen.

 

[Grace T.]

I have posted nothing to be ashamed of. You, on the other hand, are supporting an attempt to overthrow the best government the world has ever seen.

Oh Magoo once again you can’t see

I said those that engaged in storming the capitol should be prosecuted. I don’t see any legal basis though for charging trump with incitement (and such a broad standard if it did exist would equitably demand sanders harris and waters all be charged as well). The only basis I really see for impeachment is if he told pence to disregard the constitution while presiding over the senate but we don’t know what was said between the 2 men since pence has been very hush hush

guess you aren’t ashamed of mischaracterizing people and libeling them

Poor confused Magoo.

 

[espola]

Oh Magoo once again you can’t see

I said those that engaged in storming the capitol should be prosecuted. I don’t see any legal basis though for charging trump with incitement (and such a broad standard if it did exist would equitably demand sanders harris and waters all be charged as well). The only basis I really see for impeachment is if he told pence to disregard the constitution while presiding over the senate but we don’t know what was said between the 2 men since pence has been very hush hush

guess you aren’t ashamed of mischaracterizing people and libeling them

Poor confused Magoo.

"his speech called for peaceful protest and he told them to go home"

That's either ignorant or a lie. Pick one.

 

[Grace T.]

"his speech called for peaceful protest and he told them to go home"

That's either ignorant or a lie. Pick one.

in the speech he specifically said to go to the capitol peacefully and patriotically

when the riot started he went on Twitter and tv and told them to go home

not ashamed of being a lefty curmudgeon troll either?

 

[Scott m Shurson]

Tucker is a snake, always has been. Another example of an over privileged silver spoon playing to the “base”. Isn’t that what trump wanted was to “federalize” state elections? The federal election rules are already, federalized.

Unlike Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper, right? Moron.

 

[espola]

in the speech he specifically said to go to the capitol peacefully and patriotically

when the riot started he went on Twitter and tv and told them to go home

not ashamed of being a lefty curmudgeon troll either?

When the riot started? How many people were dead by then?

After the big lie, the little lies come easily.

 

[Grace T.]

When the riot started? How many people were dead by then?

After the big lie, the little lies come easily.

Same standard for the ds. Then sanders Harris and waters all have blood on their hands and should be removed

he didn’t tell them to seize the capitol or riot Prior to that. He even said it should be peaceful and patriotic. You can’t hold him legally responsible. The test for incitement is very strict and far exceeds spreading lies or working people emotionally up.

you just see lies because you are in your magoo fog and don’t know which way is up and down. Poor magoo.

 

[espola]

Same standard for the ds. Then sanders Harris and waters all have blood on their hands and should be removed

he didn’t tell them to seize the capitol or riot Prior to that. He even said it should be peaceful and patriotic. You can’t hold him legally responsible. The test for incitement is very strict and far exceeds spreading lies or working people emotionally up.

you just see lies because you are in your magoo fog and don’t know which way is up and down. Poor magoo.

I laugh every time I see you use the word "legal".

 

[Scott m Shurson]

"his speech called for peaceful protest and he told them to go home"

That's either ignorant or a lie. Pick one.

Do you not own a television? Does CNN show you ALL the news or not?

 

[Scott m Shurson]

I laugh every time I see you use the word "legal".

We laugh every time you use “coocoo” because you’re schooled by someone.

 

[Grace T.]

I laugh every time I see you use the word "legal".

poor old Magoo. We love you anyways <pats you on the head and sighs>

 

[espola]

poor old Magoo. We love you anyways <pats you on the head and sighs>

Condescension is your best argument?

Please continue.

 

[Grace T.]

Condescension is your best argument?

Please continue.

I choose to believe you are poor confused Magoo, instead of a partisan hack that willfully confuses things and distorts the truth. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, and recognizing your occasional flash of lucidness. <Hug and another head pat>.

 

[espola]

I choose to believe you are poor confused Magoo, instead of a partisan hack that willfully confuses things and distorts the truth. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, and recognizing your occasional flash of lucidness. <Hug and another head pat>.

Partisan? What party?