President Joe Biden
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Only if he agrees on your point of view right? Which I'm guessing isn't very often.
I don't live and die with every word the former President speaks or spoke...
Daffy should go ahead and share who he's quoting...
Sadly though it sounded like something Daffy would say.
That's ok. No one expects you to be well-informed at this point.
The real Joe in his own words. The Joe today is not the Joe from before. It's obvious.
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People keep talking about how does Biden save his presidency? I don't think it's by making deals with the Saudi's. Yes the political price is going to be high in the short term, but his new message that people are going to have to endure higher energy prices in the name of freedom is going to buy him some time.
What I say is he needs to do is ramp up production at home, but only on the condition Congress comes up with a real plan on how to transition away from fossil fuels. Joe Manchin should run the comity so it's a bipartisan deal that will be lasting and the world feels comfortable rallying behind.
Let China and Russia pay top dollar for Saudi oil. This could be a Sputnik type moment where he refocus the nations universities towards the science of winning the energy cold war (and away from using public dollars creating communists). Rather than give aways, lets see some grants that get things moving in the right direction again.
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What I say is he needs to do is ramp up production at home, but only on the condition Congress comes up with a real plan on how to transition away from fossil fuels. Joe Manchin should run the comity so it's a bipartisan deal that will be lasting and the world feels comfortable rallying behind.
Let China and Russia pay top dollar for Saudi oil. This could be a Sputnik type moment where he refocus the nations universities towards the science of winning the energy cold war (and away from using public dollars creating communists). Rather than give aways, lets see some grants that get things moving in the right direction again.
Saudis Want Biden to Counter Iran, Forget Khashoggi in Gas Crisis Bargain
A former Saudi official told Newsweek that the kingdom is "capable of finding a way to supply America with the oil they need, but there will be an exchange for that."
www.newsweek.com
Cheap oil got us into this situation, but cheap oil won't get us out.People keep talking about how does Biden save his presidency? I don't think it's by making deals with the Saudi's. Yes the political price is going to be high in the short term, but his new message that people are going to have to endure higher energy prices in the name of freedom is going to buy him some time.
What I say is he needs to do is ramp up production at home, but only on the condition Congress comes up with a real plan on how to transition away from fossil fuels. Joe Manchin should run the comity so it's a bipartisan deal that will be lasting and the world feels comfortable rallying behind.
Let China and Russia pay top dollar for Saudi oil. This could be a Sputnik type moment where he refocus the nations universities towards the science of winning the energy cold war (and away from using public dollars creating communists). Rather than give aways, lets see some grants that get things moving in the right direction again.
Saudis Want Biden to Counter Iran, Forget Khashoggi in Gas Crisis Bargain
A former Saudi official told Newsweek that the kingdom is "capable of finding a way to supply America with the oil they need, but there will be an exchange for that."
Happened again
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where do I find this book of cliches.
thirteenknots
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I live in Manhattan, and happened the catch the Trump motorcade drive right past my apartment on York Ave. It was when he was in town to visit his dying brother Fred. Haha it was NYC toward the end of his presidency so there weren't crowds just police lining the street. So I get talking with one of the cops, and this pretty lady as there weren't many other people around (the cop did a lot of talking trying to impress the pretty girl).
Anyway he was talking about how no one really know the route the motorcade will take. He pointed out the van with the weird thing on that and that there were multiple limo and no one knew exactly which one the President was in. Then the limos drove past and Trump was riding shotgun, up in the very first limo. His hair was the give away, and also he's a big dude.
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Yes, if he has a body double then it's possible.
But the speed limit here is 25mph. They were moving faster than that, but not that much faster. But just like in the photo the limo had clear glass in the front (but the back windows were tinted black as I remember?)
Anyway I got a good look at him. So did the cop because said 'he's in that one' as he knew we'd all had seen him and it was just a second after he had told us you never know what limo he's going to be in.
Yes, if he has a body double then it's possible.
But the speed limit here is 25mph. They were moving faster than that, but not that much faster. But just like in the photo the limo had clear glass in the front (but the back windows were tinted black as I remember?)
Anyway I got a good look at him. So did the cop because said 'he's in that one' as he knew we'd all had seen him and it was just a second after he had told us you never know what limo he's going to be in.
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There are a few potential issues with this, imv.People keep talking about how does Biden save his presidency? I don't think it's by making deals with the Saudi's. Yes the political price is going to be high in the short term, but his new message that people are going to have to endure higher energy prices in the name of freedom is going to buy him some time.
What I say is he needs to do is ramp up production at home, but only on the condition Congress comes up with a real plan on how to transition away from fossil fuels. Joe Manchin should run the comity so it's a bipartisan deal that will be lasting and the world feels comfortable rallying behind.
Let China and Russia pay top dollar for Saudi oil. This could be a Sputnik type moment where he refocus the nations universities towards the science of winning the energy cold war (and away from using public dollars creating communists). Rather than give aways, lets see some grants that get things moving in the right direction again.
Saudis Want Biden to Counter Iran, Forget Khashoggi in Gas Crisis Bargain
A former Saudi official told Newsweek that the kingdom is "capable of finding a way to supply America with the oil they need, but there will be an exchange for that."
- Biden can't compel anyone to ramp up production. The reality is that at the current price, there is no real incentive for domestic oil producers to ramp up.
- A lot of domestic oil producers went out of business during covid (frackers mainly) as the price dropped due to the fall in demand and they were unprofitable. The US govt need to guarantee a baseline price to get companies to commit. A bit of corporate socialism.
- There is also a refinery gap if we did produce more, and it takes years to plug that
- China & India are happy buying oil from Russia at $80 or lower. Russia makes money at $15. Russia is the second largest oil producer (after the US), so they (CN/IN) don't need Saudi oil and for China, Russia is next door.
- Russia is an oil (& gas) exporter, so no Saudi impact there.
Do you look at yourself in the mirror and say that before you post here? (A rhetorical question if there ever was one.)
Or instead of us speculating the SS agents could just testify.
I think you bring up a lot of great points. In my defense let me say perhaps I was feeling a bit overly confident from how well I was doing in the Insurrection thread when I posted this. But I said it, so I suppose now I've got to try and defend it...
First of all let me agree no Biden can't 'force' anyone to ramp up production. However I did hear on CNBC where Biden's Energy Secretary sat down with oil Execs last week and they told her that if the refineries didn't switch from winter to sulfur summer blends of oil it would have the same impact of bringing an extra refinery online. Now no, I'm not saying we should lower the emissions standards... but what I am saying is that if Biden stops talking about putting the oil industry out of business and really sits down to talk with them, they might have a few ideas that could be helpful to him.
As to domestic oil producers going out of business... that doesn't mean there no longer oil in the ground? To me the real question is how fast can we get it out, and at what cost. From the permitting process, drilling, transporting, to offering tax incentives there are a variety of different steps Biden can take to speed things up.
Actually I think in terms of oil the worlds top three oil production nations the list is 1_Saudi Arabia, 2_United States of American, 3_Russia.
Venezuela is a better choice than Saudi Arabia? Hmm... I'll again go back to my point that if Biden frames the higher prices as the cost of freedom people will give him some time to get the problem sorted. Now he needs to comes up with an actual long term energy plan, that lays out a roadmap of how we transition to clean energy in a way that his party will be willing to agree but also gets buy in from the fossil fuel industry. Hence my suggestion he have J Manchin head a bi-partisan committee to get looking for this compromise asap.
But they won't. Not only that, I'd be willing to wager money we don't get an actually quote from the agent in charge describing what happened before the 2024 election.