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Wez said:
I don't know about Flynn committng treason but McDonnell shutting down a bi-partisan request to investigate the Russian influence is looking more treasonous by the day.
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Really?
What treasonable offense would that be?
 
Lion Eyes said:
Really?
What treasonable offense would that be?
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Obstructing an investigation into the possible committing of treason, would be my guess, but I'm not an attorney. If Benghazi was worthy of several investigations, surely with this new information about Flynn, this Russian influence topic is worthy of at least one good investigation.
 
Wez said:
Obstructing an investigation into the possible committing of treason, would be my guess, but I'm not an attorney. If Benghazi was worthy of several investigations, surely with this new information about Flynn, this Russian influence topic is worthy of at least one good investigation.
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Speaking to foreign leaders of government is a crime? Let us know when you find documented disclosures of Secret or Top Secret information
 
Wez said:
You can't even keep track of who or what you are responding to anymore...
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That's what I thought. By your own admission you're "not an attorney" and therefore can't tell us if it's against the law to speak to foreign leaders. You can ignore the precedence for doing so all you like.
 
Wez said:
Obstructing an investigation into the possible committing of treason, would be my guess, but I'm not an attorney. If Benghazi was worthy of several investigations, surely with this new information about Flynn, this Russian influence topic is worthy of at least one good investigation.
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He tendered his resignation, Trump will replace the employee who misled the administration with another candidate.
Just like a business, if the employee says he can do something or didn't do something and you find out he's incapable or did do it and the result is compromising to the business then it's Hasta la vista .....

The Russians ( or any outside entity. ) only have influence if they are allowed to have it.

The MSM media is making hay over something that happens everyday in business and has happened with all previous administrations.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
That's what I thought. By your own admission you're "not an attorney" and therefore can't tell us if it's against the law to speak to foreign leaders. You can ignore the precedence for doing so all you like.
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Dude, as I said, you responded to what you thought I was talking about, not what I actually was talking about. You'll have to review my comments to find your mistake.
 
espola said:
Negotiating policy with foreign leaders by private citizens not reporting to the President is a crime.

( Making arrangements to interfere with an election is a crime. )

WHO MADE SUCH ARRANGEMENTS...... Mr Spola ??????
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" Mr. Flynn never explicitly promised sanction relief, but seemed to leave the impression that it was possible, officials said. Private citizens are prohibited by law from engaging in diplomacy. "




§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
 
nononono said:
" Mr. Flynn never explicitly promised sanction relief, but seemed to leave the impression that it was possible, officials said. Private citizens are prohibited by law from engaging in diplomacy. "




§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
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The law is not espola's strong point. But mostly because he doesn't read.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
Oh they've always been corralled. That's a part of conservative investing. Didn't they teach you that in finance pre-school?
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It's obvious you failed finace pre-school, we know this because you are the only person here whose finances did not improve over the last eight years.
 
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