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You understand Spanish was spoken in California before the State joined the Union I hope. So by your logic shouldn’t we be speaking Spanish and saying to hell with these English speaking immigrants?
I hardly ever use the "dumb" icon, but you earned it this time.
 
UC Berkeley Panel Blames Conservative Speakers For 'Inciting' Leftist Violence
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ByJames Barrett
May 4, 2018
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A months-long study by a commission tasked with studying the issue of free speech on the University of California, Berkeley campus blames conservative speakers for deliberately "inciting" leftist violence. By insisting on speaking on campus, the commission says, conservative and right-wing speakers deliberately "incite[d] a violent reaction" from the radical left.

"Although those speakers had every right to speak and were entitled to protection, they did not need to be on campus to exercise the right of free speech," the commission states, as reported by Politico. "Indeed, at least some of the 2017 events at Berkeley can now be seen to be part of a coordinated campaign to organize appearances on American campuses likely to incite a violent reaction, in order to advance a facile narrative that universities are not tolerant of conservative speech."

Since the motives of the speakers, including Milo Yiannopoulos and Ann Coulter, are suspect, the report suggests, their right to free speech is "hard to defend."

"Many Commission members are skeptical of these speakers’ commitment to anything other than the pursuit of wealth and fame through the instigation of anger, fear, and vengefulness in their hard-right constituency," the report states. "Speech of this kind is hard to defend, especially in light of the acute distress it caused (and was intended to cause) to staff and students, many of whom felt threatened and targeted by the speakers and by the outside groups financing their appearances."

In addition to resorting to what amounts to a blame the victim argument and a rather clear assertion of the "rioters veto," the commission downplayed the anti-free speech presence on the campuses, relegating the violence and speech-suppressing tactics to a "very small group of students working closely with outside organizations."
I wonder if they blame the weather on the USA,..wait...
 
You understand Spanish was spoken in California before the State joined the Union I hope. So by your logic shouldn’t we be speaking Spanish and saying to hell with these English speaking immigrants?
Before Spanish was spoken here the natives had 60+ languages they spoke........so by your logic....
 
60 +.....Wow.....!
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The Cultural Heritage of California begins no less than 12,000 years ago when the first of several waves of people arrived and settled here. California’s prehistoric population one of the largest and most diverse in the Western hemisphere is exhibited by the no fewer than the sixty-four distinct languages they spoke, more than any other comparable area in the world outside of New Guinea.

"Before white contact, California had more linguistic variety than all of Europe. Today California Indian languages are indeed in the ultimate crisis in a life-and-death struggle," writes linguist Leanne Hinton. "We may see ninety percent of these languages, or perhaps all of them, disappear in our lifetimes" (Hinton, 1994). This online presentation of California Indian Root Languages and Tribal Groups is to provide information to all who want to learn about California Indian languages.

https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=23548
 
California_indians_languages_map.jpg

The Cultural Heritage of California begins no less than 12,000 years ago when the first of several waves of people arrived and settled here. California’s prehistoric population one of the largest and most diverse in the Western hemisphere is exhibited by the no fewer than the sixty-four distinct languages they spoke, more than any other comparable area in the world outside of New Guinea.

"Before white contact, California had more linguistic variety than all of Europe. Today California Indian languages are indeed in the ultimate crisis in a life-and-death struggle," writes linguist Leanne Hinton. "We may see ninety percent of these languages, or perhaps all of them, disappear in our lifetimes" (Hinton, 1994). This online presentation of California Indian Root Languages and Tribal Groups is to provide information to all who want to learn about California Indian languages.

https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=23548




Thank You !!!!
 
Before Spanish was spoken here the natives had 60+ languages they spoke........so by your logic....

Yes lion. Yes that is exactly my point. It's stupid to say we should be speaking native languages here based on history. It's stupid to say we should be speaking Spanish based on history. And it's stupid for Joe to be talking about how from now to the end of time people will only speak English in California.

In the end we live in a democracy. California has a long connection to Spanish speaking cultures, and those people want to see that reflected in their government. Isn't this how local and state government's are sorta suppose to work?
 
Yes lion. Yes that is exactly my point. It's stupid to say we should be speaking native languages here based on history. It's stupid to say we should be speaking Spanish based on history. And it's stupid for Joe to be talking about how from now to the end of time people will only speak English in California.

In the end we live in a democracy. California has a long connection to Spanish speaking cultures, and those people want to see that reflected in their government. Isn't this how local and state government's are sorta suppose to work?
It's all these effing east coasters who come here thinking they know what's best. This is the Southwest, this Cali, you ignorant, lilly white snow birds need to learn to assimilate to OUR culture!
 
Yes lion. Yes that is exactly my point. It's stupid to say we should be speaking native languages here based on history. It's stupid to say we should be speaking Spanish based on history. And it's stupid for Joe to be talking about how from now to the end of time people will only speak English in California.

In the end we live in a democracy. California has a long connection to Spanish speaking cultures, and those people want to see that reflected in their government. Isn't this how local and state government's are sorta suppose to work?
It's a simple concept.
When living in Italy, learn & speak Italian, in France go with French, England would be English, Japan would be Japanese...see a pattern yet?
Move to Mexico I suggest learning Spanish. USA???? You wanna guess? Hint: The answer is not 60+ native languages.
Assimilate when you migrate.
Have a great day.
 
It's all these effing east coasters who come here thinking they know what's best. This is the Southwest, this Cali, you ignorant, lilly white snow birds need to learn to assimilate to OUR culture!
WTF are you quacking about?
East coasters? Lilly white? Magoo?
This is America..assimilate indeed.
 
Yes lion. Yes that is exactly my point. It's stupid to say we should be speaking native languages here based on history. It's stupid to say we should be speaking Spanish based on history. And it's stupid for Joe to be talking about how from now to the end of time people will only speak English in California.

In the end we live in a democracy. California has a long connection to Spanish speaking cultures, and those people want to see that reflected in their government. Isn't this how local and state government's are sorta suppose to work?
Oh it’$ reflected alright. Mucho dinero!
 
It's a simple concept.
When living in Italy, learn & speak Italian, in France go with French, England would be English, Japan would be Japanese...see a pattern yet?
Move to Mexico I suggest learning Spanish. USA???? You wanna guess? Hint: The answer is not 60+ native languages.
Assimilate when you migrate.
Have a great day.

I just disagree and feel if people are going to be forced to pay taxes then they have a right to decide what the government they are paying is shaped like. Even if it's something totally outragous like making there is support for non-english speakers when it comes to interacting with the government.
 
I just disagree and feel if people are going to be forced to pay taxes then they have a right to decide what the government they are paying is shaped like. Even if it's something totally outragous like making there is support for non-english speakers when it comes to interacting with the government.
Do you mean dealing with reality? Apparently some have a hard time with that concept . . . their spoon fed version suits them better.
 
I just disagree and feel if people are going to be forced to pay taxes then they have a right to decide what the government they are paying is shaped like. Even if it's something totally outragous like making there is support for non-english speakers when it comes to interacting with the government.
What government agency do you find lacking in non-engli$h $peaker support?
 
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