Sheriff Joe
DA
We are in Ca, you know, the land of illegals getting free medical care and driver licenses, so no, don't assume anyone who doesn't speak English is legal.
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- Thread starter Bruddah IZ
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Multi Sport
DA
So now, somehow, you've gained the ability to deduce. Kinda funny how that works, right?
Does that ability to deduce also work in court or is it just here on the forum? I could go all Espola on you and keep up the charade of "show me" but I will spare you that nonsense. But you still have not shown me, other then a guess, that non English speaking people at Urgent Care, ER and I guess now the DMV are mainly here legally. You do realize that even if you are in CA illegally you can obtain a Drivers License and receive medical services.
So I will try again. Did you know these people, or ask them if they were in the country legally or illegally? If not, then I guess you lost the case. Afterall, it was you who first stated that they were mainly here legally and so the burden of proof falls on you.
Hmm... maybe I should have follwed in my Grandfathers footsteps.
Sheriff Joe
DA
Don't get ahead of yourself Multi, you are only having your way with a fake attorney.
Multi Sport
DA
I guess I should stick to my day job..
For me, the only problem is increased traffic.
i don’t even know if they have nipples. Can’t prove it. If I say most of them do, you win!
Hüsker Dü
DA
They've been here longer than all but the first inhabitants. I'd guarantee that most of us in here can't claim more than one or two generations of being in Cali.
Multi Sport
DA
Sure, I do as well. My Mom's whole side is bilingual. My Dads side is trilingual as well. So what's your point on that?
Multi Sport
DA
So I guess I should have stuck with the Espola approach. I kinda thought you were above that but I guess I was wrong..
You lost me a while ago. Because I don’t think I have to explain why in any given group of people in an ER or DMV, more will be documented than undocumented. You know that’s obvious.
Multi Sport
DA
So now not only are you not answering my simple question but your making up excuses.
That much is obvious.
Sheriff Joe
DA
Who gives 1 fuck?
The big fish eat the little fish.
We bought and paid for this piece of land, didn't we?
Sheriff Joe
DA
The more you talk to x the worse he gets. He starts out pretty reasonable, but then takes a hard left.
I’m now hearing the twilight zone theme.
Multi Sport
DA
That's funny because all I'm hearing from you is Looney Tunes..
Sheriff Joe
DA
Is the Migrant Caravan a Trojan Horse?
By Brian C. Joondeph
'Trojan horse' refers to a clever trick to hide and sneak foes across enemy lines. It is the story of a large hollow wooden horse constructed by the Greeks, to hide and hold Greek warriors. The horse was offered to Troy by the Greeks as a tribute to goddess Athena which would make Troy impregnable. Once brought inside the gates of Troy, soldiers emerged from the horse, opening the city gates to the Greek army. It was a clever and effective sneak attack.
Although this was an ancient technique of war, Trojan horses are being used today, in a different kind of war. This war is not against the Greeks, but instead against first world western countries, including the United States, that have lost the will to defend their people, their culture, and their borders.
The current Trojan horse is the “migrant caravan”, heading from Central, through Mexico, toward the U.S. southern border. The migratory surge is sponsored by a group called Pueblo Sin Fronteras, whose mission is to, “Accompany migrants and refugees in their journey of hope, and together demand our human rights.” The migrant caravan now traversing Mexico is their modus operandi.
Migrants from Central America are supposedly fleeing their home countries to seek political asylum further north. They are allowed to cross Mexico’s own southern border but are not being invited to stay in Mexico or granted asylum by Mexico. Instead they are given assistance, by migrant organizations, the Mexican government, and likely American pro illegal immigration groups, toward their final destination, the United States.
Once they set foot in the U.S., they can claim political asylum, and with U.S. catch-and-release policies, are essentially set free within the U.S. Are all of the migrants being persecuted politically in their home countries or are some traveling with the caravan for other reasons? If so, how many? Do any U.S. government officials, other than President Trump, know or care?
This photo from CNN shows the migrant caravan.
So does this photo below from Telesur.
Notice how many of the migrants are young men, fit and of military age. These migrants look remarkably similar to photos of Syrian refugees entering Europe. Sure there are women and children too, but most are young men.
By Brian C. Joondeph
'Trojan horse' refers to a clever trick to hide and sneak foes across enemy lines. It is the story of a large hollow wooden horse constructed by the Greeks, to hide and hold Greek warriors. The horse was offered to Troy by the Greeks as a tribute to goddess Athena which would make Troy impregnable. Once brought inside the gates of Troy, soldiers emerged from the horse, opening the city gates to the Greek army. It was a clever and effective sneak attack.
Although this was an ancient technique of war, Trojan horses are being used today, in a different kind of war. This war is not against the Greeks, but instead against first world western countries, including the United States, that have lost the will to defend their people, their culture, and their borders.
The current Trojan horse is the “migrant caravan”, heading from Central, through Mexico, toward the U.S. southern border. The migratory surge is sponsored by a group called Pueblo Sin Fronteras, whose mission is to, “Accompany migrants and refugees in their journey of hope, and together demand our human rights.” The migrant caravan now traversing Mexico is their modus operandi.
Migrants from Central America are supposedly fleeing their home countries to seek political asylum further north. They are allowed to cross Mexico’s own southern border but are not being invited to stay in Mexico or granted asylum by Mexico. Instead they are given assistance, by migrant organizations, the Mexican government, and likely American pro illegal immigration groups, toward their final destination, the United States.
Once they set foot in the U.S., they can claim political asylum, and with U.S. catch-and-release policies, are essentially set free within the U.S. Are all of the migrants being persecuted politically in their home countries or are some traveling with the caravan for other reasons? If so, how many? Do any U.S. government officials, other than President Trump, know or care?
This photo from CNN shows the migrant caravan.
So does this photo below from Telesur.
Notice how many of the migrants are young men, fit and of military age. These migrants look remarkably similar to photos of Syrian refugees entering Europe. Sure there are women and children too, but most are young men.
Sheriff Joe
DA
Civil Rights Renaissance to Remember Martin Luther King
By Ben Voth
March 4, 2018 is the 50th anniversary of what may arguably be the end of America’s second revolution: the civil rights movement. On March 4, 1968, Martin Luther was assassinated on the balcony of the Loraine Motel in Memphis. The assassination was a jacobin fantasy long sought against King since the inception of his leadership efforts for civil rights beginning in 1956. King’s assassination 50 years ago was perhaps an end of the community of the beloved and a non-violent effort to bring a stop to segregation and other overwhelming aspects of racism in the United States. King’s efforts along with other leaders such as James Farmer, Jr. and James Meredith were increasingly sidelined by more militant efforts to reject American political conventions as articulated by men like Stokely Carmichael in his famous alternative to the non-violent movement expressed in the simple words: “Black Power!” 50 years later, America needs more than ever a renaissance of the American civil rights movement.
With the ascendancy of black power movements like the Black Panthers and the Black Liberation Army, white participants in the civil rights movement were expelled. The Christian, non-violent, and religious trappings of the movement were discarded and the partisan beliefs that blacks must claim for themselves the rights so long denied became dominant and entrenched. Carmichael incited the counter movement when he co-opted James Meredith’s “March Against Fear.” On June 16, 1966, Carmichael led the crowd in chants of “black power” andexplained in Greenwood, Mississippi: “every courthouse in Mississippi ought to be burned down tomorrow to get rid of the dirt and the mess.” The idea of ‘burning it down’ has become a trademark of an Alinsky-inspired vision of riots and violent destruction across the nation. Carmichael’s frustration tapped into an endless sea of anger all people feel at the pain of genuine injustice. Academics have to a large extent fanned the flames of 50 years of black power fantasies by offering false hagiography of leaders such as Malcolm X. In current re-tellings of the 1960s, Malcolm X is viewed as the path not taken versus King, and a militancy we should now embrace to reduce problems like police killings of innocent black men like Stephon Clark. Malcolm’s last words, less than 24 hours after having his house bombed by jacobin radicals and one week before being assassinated himself, show a change of heart different from his present hagiography: “I say again that I'm not a racist, I don't believe in any form of segregation or anything like that. I'm for the brotherhood of everybody, but I don't believe in forcing brotherhood upon people who don't want it. Long as we practice brotherhood among ourselves, and then others who want to practice brotherhood with us, we practice it with them also, we're for that. But I don't think that we should run around trying to love somebody who doesn't love us.” Malcolm X’s repudiation of segregation and exit from the Nation of Islam was a diametrical change from his debates with James Farmer Jr. in 1962 and demonstrated a decisive break with the radical visions of NOI. His change of heart came not long after civil rights workers James Chaney, Mickey Schwerner, and Andrew Goodman were murdered in Mississippi in the summer of 1964. Exasperated with the non-violent methods of his martyred brother within the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE), Ben Chaney joined the ranks of the Black Liberation Army in the 1970s. This terrorist group was dedicated to violent revolution against racism within the United States. Chaney went to jail for years after being caught running guns related to several murders committed by the group. He has since renounced the path of violence he formerly embraced.
In 2018, we need a renaissance of the American civil rights movement. They myth that confrontation, anger and neo-segregationism have not been tried sufficiently, needs to be seen for the 50-year failure it has been in American race relations. The nation needs to re-discover King’s words at the conclusion of his letter from a Birmingham jail. In the closing, King said the South would someday remember her heroes: “the James Merediths, courageously and with a majestic sense of purpose, facing jeering and hostile mobs and the agonizing loneliness that characterizes the life of the pioneer.” James Meredith is still alive today in Mississippi and largely shunned by experts for failing to maintain the reactionary political zeal that holds civil rights memory captive to one political ideology. Meredith’s 2012 biography, “Mission from God,” stands as a powerful correction to the conventional secular and ideological narratives of how we should both remember and act upon race relations. Civil rights heroes such as John Lewis need to remember the true calling of civil rights when confronted with the bi-partisan opportunity to stand with President Trump at the opening of the Mississippi civil rights museum in Jackson. Great non-partisan leaders like Reverend John Perkins continue to point us toward a better path. As long as civil rights memory is used as a narrow ideological whipping post for Republicans, it is African-American men who will bear the brunt of ongoing injustice. Meredith, Farmer, King, and Malcolm X all understood this dangerous jacobin end of spiraling partisan cynicism. The 50 year anniversary of King’s assassination in the immediate aftermath of Easter, is an ideal time for a national reconsideration of our present path on race relations. The conclusion of King’s last public words on the night of April 3—the eve of his assassination, are a compelling reminder of our eternal idealistic call for justice as seen through God’s eyes:
“Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will. And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land! And so I'm happy, tonight.
I'm not worried about anything.
I'm not fearing any man!
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord!!”
By Ben Voth
March 4, 2018 is the 50th anniversary of what may arguably be the end of America’s second revolution: the civil rights movement. On March 4, 1968, Martin Luther was assassinated on the balcony of the Loraine Motel in Memphis. The assassination was a jacobin fantasy long sought against King since the inception of his leadership efforts for civil rights beginning in 1956. King’s assassination 50 years ago was perhaps an end of the community of the beloved and a non-violent effort to bring a stop to segregation and other overwhelming aspects of racism in the United States. King’s efforts along with other leaders such as James Farmer, Jr. and James Meredith were increasingly sidelined by more militant efforts to reject American political conventions as articulated by men like Stokely Carmichael in his famous alternative to the non-violent movement expressed in the simple words: “Black Power!” 50 years later, America needs more than ever a renaissance of the American civil rights movement.
With the ascendancy of black power movements like the Black Panthers and the Black Liberation Army, white participants in the civil rights movement were expelled. The Christian, non-violent, and religious trappings of the movement were discarded and the partisan beliefs that blacks must claim for themselves the rights so long denied became dominant and entrenched. Carmichael incited the counter movement when he co-opted James Meredith’s “March Against Fear.” On June 16, 1966, Carmichael led the crowd in chants of “black power” andexplained in Greenwood, Mississippi: “every courthouse in Mississippi ought to be burned down tomorrow to get rid of the dirt and the mess.” The idea of ‘burning it down’ has become a trademark of an Alinsky-inspired vision of riots and violent destruction across the nation. Carmichael’s frustration tapped into an endless sea of anger all people feel at the pain of genuine injustice. Academics have to a large extent fanned the flames of 50 years of black power fantasies by offering false hagiography of leaders such as Malcolm X. In current re-tellings of the 1960s, Malcolm X is viewed as the path not taken versus King, and a militancy we should now embrace to reduce problems like police killings of innocent black men like Stephon Clark. Malcolm’s last words, less than 24 hours after having his house bombed by jacobin radicals and one week before being assassinated himself, show a change of heart different from his present hagiography: “I say again that I'm not a racist, I don't believe in any form of segregation or anything like that. I'm for the brotherhood of everybody, but I don't believe in forcing brotherhood upon people who don't want it. Long as we practice brotherhood among ourselves, and then others who want to practice brotherhood with us, we practice it with them also, we're for that. But I don't think that we should run around trying to love somebody who doesn't love us.” Malcolm X’s repudiation of segregation and exit from the Nation of Islam was a diametrical change from his debates with James Farmer Jr. in 1962 and demonstrated a decisive break with the radical visions of NOI. His change of heart came not long after civil rights workers James Chaney, Mickey Schwerner, and Andrew Goodman were murdered in Mississippi in the summer of 1964. Exasperated with the non-violent methods of his martyred brother within the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE), Ben Chaney joined the ranks of the Black Liberation Army in the 1970s. This terrorist group was dedicated to violent revolution against racism within the United States. Chaney went to jail for years after being caught running guns related to several murders committed by the group. He has since renounced the path of violence he formerly embraced.
In 2018, we need a renaissance of the American civil rights movement. They myth that confrontation, anger and neo-segregationism have not been tried sufficiently, needs to be seen for the 50-year failure it has been in American race relations. The nation needs to re-discover King’s words at the conclusion of his letter from a Birmingham jail. In the closing, King said the South would someday remember her heroes: “the James Merediths, courageously and with a majestic sense of purpose, facing jeering and hostile mobs and the agonizing loneliness that characterizes the life of the pioneer.” James Meredith is still alive today in Mississippi and largely shunned by experts for failing to maintain the reactionary political zeal that holds civil rights memory captive to one political ideology. Meredith’s 2012 biography, “Mission from God,” stands as a powerful correction to the conventional secular and ideological narratives of how we should both remember and act upon race relations. Civil rights heroes such as John Lewis need to remember the true calling of civil rights when confronted with the bi-partisan opportunity to stand with President Trump at the opening of the Mississippi civil rights museum in Jackson. Great non-partisan leaders like Reverend John Perkins continue to point us toward a better path. As long as civil rights memory is used as a narrow ideological whipping post for Republicans, it is African-American men who will bear the brunt of ongoing injustice. Meredith, Farmer, King, and Malcolm X all understood this dangerous jacobin end of spiraling partisan cynicism. The 50 year anniversary of King’s assassination in the immediate aftermath of Easter, is an ideal time for a national reconsideration of our present path on race relations. The conclusion of King’s last public words on the night of April 3—the eve of his assassination, are a compelling reminder of our eternal idealistic call for justice as seen through God’s eyes:
“Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will. And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land! And so I'm happy, tonight.
I'm not worried about anything.
I'm not fearing any man!
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord!!”
Sheriff Joe
DA
Some of MLK's final words, the night before he was assassinated.
“Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will. And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land! And so I'm happy, tonight.
I'm not worried about anything.
I'm not fearing any man!
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord!!”
“Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will. And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land! And so I'm happy, tonight.
I'm not worried about anything.
I'm not fearing any man!
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord!!”
Bruddah IZ
DA
No doubt MLK spent some time in the Garden of Gethsemane before that speech.
Crazy how he said that the night before his death.
Hüsker Dü
DA
I really am tired of seeing the insanity joe posts. I never was a tabloid reader and this yellow journalism joe is addicted to isn't just innocent fun, some idiots actually believe it and post it in forums as if it's real.