Ponderable

espola said:
Timing was a little off - Putin hadn't arrived yet --

http://americanmilitarynews.com/201...facebook&utm_campaign=alt&utm_source=popsmoke

One of the products I worked on in my career was a plasma display for the commander and gunner of the Sgt. York DIVAD (Division Air Defense) automated machine gun, that was supposed to detect and shoot down enemy helicopters threatening friendly tanks. In an infamous demo before pentagon brass, the gun was supposed to take out some helicopter drones being flown downrange. First there was a manual demo of the Bofors twin 40 mm guns (240/480 rounds/minute) which impressed everyone (except for some hard-core supply wonks who had pushed for a 35-mm gun to be common with other Army/NATO assets). Then the tracking radar was turned on and it immediately found the exhaust fans of the mobile latrine trailer. Once the trailer was moved/obscured, the guns swung around and homed in on the reviewing grandstand - several people were injured jumping off, even though the gun never fired. DIVAD never shot down any helicopter-like targets in the demo, and the program was eventually cancelled.

Our marketing guys shifted their spiel to point out that we supplied the part of DIVAD that worked.
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Just a corner of one of the displays visible here --

http://www.net-maquettes.com/pictures/m247-sergeant-york-walkaround/?afg599_page_id=6#afg-599
 
Wez said:
He took a knee instead of stood. I love all the manufactured outrage over this peaceful protest by Kap, kids take knees when kids are injured all the time it's a sign of respect.
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Manufactured outrage? Is that what Jim Brown and Franco Harris are showing?
Taking a knee for an injured player is a youth soccer oddity...I've never seen it in high school, college or the pro game.
Occasionally when a player is down where a stretcher is needed in the NFL you'll see guys praying together on a knee...
Disrespecting our flag, our country and ultimately those who have given way more than Kap ever will, ultimately, honestly and earnestly pisses some folks off.
 
Wez said:
So instead of standing during the Anthem (we'll forget the racist verses that are left out), he kneels. Kneeling at his home wouldn't have been as effective, just like raising a fist at home, instead of at the Olympics, would have been pointless.
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John Carlos & Tommie Smith paid a heavy price for those raised fists, public opinion and they were sent home from the Olympics for what they did.
I don't remember them whining about their decisions to raise a fist, they knew they were breaking the rules...and accepted the consequences.
 
Lion Eyes said:
John Carlos & Tommie Smith paid a heavy price for those raised fists, public opinion and they were sent home from the Olympics for what they did.
I don't remember them whining about their decisions to raise a fist, they knew they were breaking the rules...and accepted the consequences.
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Smith played in the NFL, and Carlos in the CFL, and both had significant followon track careers, as athletes and coaches. Your research on this point is pitiful.
 
Lion Eyes said:
Manufactured outrage?
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Yes, imao, that is exactly what we see in so many areas as the media has figured out how to make anything and everything a big deal.

Lion Eyes said:
Disrespecting our flag, our country and ultimately those who have given way more than Kap ever will, ultimately, honestly and earnestly pisses some folks off.
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That's how you choose to view his peaceful protest, don't make it true.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
I don't understand why you think it is fake? You, again, are ignoring middle America and it will work out the same this time.
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Are you once again speaking for a large swath of America, putting words in their mouths and assuming because they live in Iowa, or the like, that they agree with you. Maybe just speak for yourself, let's start with that.
 
espola said:
Timing was a little off - Putin hadn't arrived yet --

http://americanmilitarynews.com/201...facebook&utm_campaign=alt&utm_source=popsmoke

One of the products I worked on in my career was a plasma display for the commander and gunner of the Sgt. York DIVAD (Division Air Defense) automated machine gun, that was supposed to detect and shoot down enemy helicopters threatening friendly tanks. In an infamous demo before pentagon brass, the gun was supposed to take out some helicopter drones being flown downrange. First there was a manual demo of the Bofors twin 40 mm guns (240/480 rounds/minute) which impressed everyone (except for some hard-core supply wonks who had pushed for a 35-mm gun to be common with other Army/NATO assets). Then the tracking radar was turned on and it immediately found the exhaust fans of the mobile latrine trailer. Once the trailer was moved/obscured, the guns swung around and homed in on the reviewing grandstand - several people were injured jumping off, even though the gun never fired. DIVAD never shot down any helicopter-like targets in the demo, and the program was eventually cancelled.

Our marketing guys shifted their spiel to point out that we supplied the part of DIVAD that worked.
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. . . and we have spent a LOT of money on crap like that over the years.
 
Lion Eyes said:
Disrespecting those who have given way more than Kap ever will, ultimately, honestly and earnestly pisses some folks off.
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Wez said:
I realize that some people are put off by someone not showing what is deemed to be proper respect to our National Anthem.

Imao, taking a knee in peaceful protest is exactly what black people have been asked to do, instead of rioting, on the subject of Police and Black people. Now that they got what they asked for, fake outrage has been cooked up to keep us 99% focused on all the wrong stuff. I.e. - an increase in military spending passing with not a peep from anyone.
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Think bigger.
 
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