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Yet another email snafu. Wasserman Shultz is a goner. Part of the vast right wing conspiracy, I'm sure.

"The publication of 20,000 DNC emails by Wikileaks over the weekend made it immediately clear that Schultz's five-year tenure was in peril. The Wikileaks publication exposed what many Sanders supporters had feared all along: That the party apparatus was working to tilt the primary scales in favor of Clinton."

"Eager to move past the unseemly storyline, the Clinton campaign first charged that Russian hackers were attempting to assist Republican nominee Donald Trump's election through the leaks."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...il-convention/ar-BBuMdz6?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp
 
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Lion Eyes said:
Yet another email snafu. Wasserman Shultz is a goner. Part of the vast right wing conspiracy, I'm sure.

"The publication of 20,000 DNC emails by Wikileaks over the weekend made it immediately clear that Schultz's five-year tenure was in peril. The Wikileaks publication exposed what many Sanders supporters had feared all along: That the party apparatus was working to tilt the primary scales in favor of Clinton."

"Eager to move past the unseemly storyline, the Clinton campaign first charged that Russian hackers were attempting to assist Republican nominee Donald Trump's election through the leaks."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...il-convention/ar-BBuMdz6?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp
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It's a mess for sure. I'm interested to see how it plays out.
 
Wez said:
Take a look at gun deaths in Japan and we'll continue the discussion.
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What do gun deaths in Japan have to do with this knife attack? I'll continue without you.

Dead is dead.

Doesn't matter if by gun, knife, bomb, truck or any other means.

If someone wants to do harm, they will find a way.
 
Lion Eyes said:
What do gun deaths in Japan have to do with this knife attack? I'll continue without you.

Dead is dead.

Doesn't matter if by gun, knife, bomb, truck or any other means.

If someone wants to do harm, they will find a way.
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No need to continue on without me, you're quoting me.

You imply, that no good can come from gun controls because people exist in this world that want to do harm to others. Despite the fact that, yes, there are people who will find a way, Japan has very low incidents of gun deaths and they have strict gun control laws. A lot of good has come from their stance on guns.
 
Wez said:
No need to continue on without me, you're quoting me.

You imply, that no good can come from gun controls because people exist in this world that want to do harm to others. Despite the fact that, yes, there are people who will find a way, Japan has very low incidents of gun deaths and they have strict gun control laws. A lot of good has come from their stance on guns.
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Bakatare gaijin
 
Wez said:
No need to continue on without me, you're quoting me.

You imply, that no good can come from gun controls because people exist in this world that want to do harm to others. Despite the fact that, yes, there are people who will find a way, Japan has very low incidents of gun deaths and they have strict gun control laws. A lot of good has come from their stance on guns.
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No implication.
Just fact. Gun control laws don't stop terrorists, lunatics or criminals.
You have the memory of a 6 week old kitten.
I've stated more than once, that I don't mind back ground checks.
I don't mind waiting for two weeks to pick up my new gun. But then again I'm not a criminal.
I'm all for gun safety and gun safety courses if you are going to keep a gun.
But all the gun legislation in Japan didn't stop this guy from finding away to kill.....
The creep in Nice didn't need a gun to kill all those folks...
What next for Japan? Registering or outlawing the silverware?
 
Lion Eyes said:
No implication.
Just fact. Gun control laws don't stop terrorists, lunatics or criminals.
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http://www.vox.com/2015/12/3/9845436/japan-gun-homicides

You're the one who chose to highlight the killings in Japan, as some sort of justification that gun controls don't matter. I'm simply counter pointing you.

Lion Eyes said:
But all the gun legislation in Japan didn't stop this guy from finding away to kill.....
The creep in Nice didn't need a gun to kill all those folks...
What next for Japan? Registering or outlawing the silverware?
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Again, if you are going to highlight events where people are killed without a gun being used, and extrapolate that back to a discussion about gun control laws "not mattering" because of this or that, I'm going to remind you that despite people being intent on finding ways to kill people, strict gun controls having a very high correlation with reduced gun deaths.
 
Wez said:
http://www.vox.com/2015/12/3/9845436/japan-gun-homicides

You're the one who chose to highlight the killings in Japan, as some sort of justification that gun controls don't matter. I'm simply counter pointing you.



Again, if you are going to highlight events where people are killed without a gun being used, and extrapolate that back to a discussion about gun control laws "not mattering" because of this or that, I'm going to remind you that despite people being intent on finding ways to kill people, strict gun controls having a very high correlation with reduced gun deaths.
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This is what I originally posted about the attack in Japan ..."If one wants to wreak havoc, one will find a way...." That's it.

You have a way of just jumping to conclusions.... I never said or inferred gun control laws don't matter.

Again if one is so inclined, one will find a way to kill.

Dead is dead.

Extrapolate this... gun control laws didn't save these folks.
 
Wez said:
Compared to the US, how many lives have gun controls laws in Japan saved?
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What do gun control laws in the US have to do with a knife attack in Japan?

By the way, I gotta believe any answer to your question above would have to be speculative.
 
Lion Eyes said:
What do gun control laws in the US have to do with a knife attack in Japan?
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What does a knife attack have to do with us needing more strict gun controls, or not? You were the one who linked the two.

Why bring it up in the context of "If one wants to wreak havoc, one will find a way", if you are not trying to make a case for stricter gun controls not being needed because a psycho will find another weapon.

The fact remains, Japan's stance on guns has saved their citizenry a lot of pain and sorrow, compared to the US.
 
Wez said:
What does a knife attack have to do with us needing more strict gun controls, or not? You were the one who linked the two.

Why bring it up in the context of "If one wants to wreak havoc, one will find a way", if you are not trying to make a case for stricter gun controls not being needed because a psycho will find another weapon.

The fact remains, Japan's stance on guns has saved their citizenry a lot of pain and sorrow, compared to the US.
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I would have said the same thing about Nice but I hadn't found the time to sign up for the new site....so.....
Regarding Nice, "IF ONE WANTS TO WRECK HAVOC, ONE WILL FIND A WAY!"

You go ahead and jump to conclusions, fly off the handle, jump the shark and tie that statement into gun control laws in France, Japan and America.
Muahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa........geezzzzuusss!
 
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