ODP in California

I agree with a lot of this, but I think it might be a little harsh. OTOH, I have had met61 on my ignore list for a long time so you could be entirely justified -- I just wouldn't know.

It is only harsh if you think that failing at something is bad. It is strange that people think kiddie soccer is so important that they're offended whenever someone suggests that maybe their kid may not be as good at it as they want them to be, whether it's ODP reps, or US Soccer picking YNT players, or club coaches deciding on playing time, or DOCs engaging in nefarious behavior that crush claims exists but can never quite put his finger on. They're perfectly fine making constant excuses that trash everyone around them instead of accepting the truth, yet they get offended when someone trashes them right back for their marginally brain addled conspiracy theories.

There is no shame in not making an ODP team. There is no shame in not making the YNT. There is no shame in not getting recruited by colleges. There is no shame in being a terrible soccer player. The mere fact that some people here define themselves by how good their child is at soccer is nuts. Kiddie soccer should be fun, yet people like met61 and crush can't do anything but complain how everything is so terrible whether it's ODP, or HS, or ECNL, or Surf, or college or whatever it is that isn't going as they had hoped. Instead of accepting what each of these things are for what they are, it's always some conspiracy of "elites" to ruin their lives. In fact, have you ever noticed that the bitter kiddie soccer conspiracy theorists who are constantly blaming "elites" for ruining their kids' lives also happen to be the same folks spouting conspiracy theories about "elites" conspiring about everything, including kiddie soccer, mask mandates, vaccines, and civil rights? I mean, met61 recently claimed that people pointing out Joe Rogan repeatedly dropping the N bomb - which even the douche himself admits was wrong and for which he apologized - constitutes elitists playing the "race card". People like met61 and crush are all about failing to take responsibility for anything. It's always a conspiracy of "elites" who are out to get them.
 
It is only harsh if you think that failing at something is bad. It is strange that people think kiddie soccer is so important that they're offended whenever someone suggests that maybe their kid may not be as good at it as they want them to be, whether it's ODP reps, or US Soccer picking YNT players, or club coaches deciding on playing time, or DOCs engaging in nefarious behavior that crush claims exists but can never quite put his finger on. They're perfectly fine making constant excuses that trash everyone around them instead of accepting the truth, yet they get offended when someone trashes them right back for their marginally brain addled conspiracy theories.

There is no shame in not making an ODP team. There is no shame in not making the YNT. There is no shame in not getting recruited by colleges. There is no shame in being a terrible soccer player. The mere fact that some people here define themselves by how good their child is at soccer is nuts. Kiddie soccer should be fun, yet people like met61 and crush can't do anything but complain how everything is so terrible whether it's ODP, or HS, or ECNL, or Surf, or college or whatever it is that isn't going as they had hoped. Instead of accepting what each of these things are for what they are, it's always some conspiracy of "elites" to ruin their lives. In fact, have you ever noticed that the bitter kiddie soccer conspiracy theorists who are constantly blaming "elites" for ruining their kids' lives also happen to be the same folks spouting conspiracy theories about "elites" conspiring about everything, including kiddie soccer, mask mandates, vaccines, and civil rights? I mean, met61 recently claimed that people pointing out Joe Rogan repeatedly dropping the N bomb - which even the douche himself admits was wrong and for which he apologized - constitutes elitists playing the "race card". People like met61 and crush are all about failing to take responsibility for anything. It's always a conspiracy of "elites" who are out to get them.
...imagine an adult life spent writing hundreds of words of psychotic ramblings on a kid's soccer forum - living rent free in someone's empty head.
 
Imagine an adult who harbors such anger and bitterness about his child not getting selected for a kiddie all star team that he rants about it here five years after the fact. Am I right?
That's it? weak sauce...at least you scored a couple reach-a-rounds from the other drama queens. Checkmate!
 
What chaperones?
I know the older age groups 06 and above traveled in 2 vans per team and there were no chaperones. Can’t speak for the youngers, though, since I wouldn’t know.
We were told of the hotel and its location and advised not to stay there or visit our children as they were there for business. In fact, 4 girls didn’t play because they did not turn their phones in at curfew.
LOL "they were there for business." Riiiight, because we all know developing future Olympians is serious "business" *wink wink*

Seriously dude, I'm embarrassed for you. Might want to delete and start over. Hope this helps, be well.
 
LOL "they were there for business." Riiiight, because we all know developing future Olympians is serious "business" *wink wink*

Seriously dude, I'm embarrassed for you. Might want to delete and start over. Hope this helps, be well.
Bro..you're drinking the same HATERADE juice as met61...It's obvious you guys are part of the SNUB CLUB...It's okay your kid was never invited to the party..I'm sure your kid has gotten over it, why can't you Big Papa? NAMASTE....

Yessir, in the "business" of winning of almost all of the age groups they were entered in.
 
Bro..you're drinking the same HATERADE juice as met61...It's obvious you guys are part of the SNUB CLUB...It's okay your kid was never invited to the party..I'm sure your kid has gotten over it, why can't you Big Papa? NAMASTE....

Yessir, in the "business" of winning of almost all of the age groups they were entered in.
I talked with the Founder bro on why was ODP put together in the first place. The Original Founder was in charge of finding the first U15 YNT, way way back in the day. How does one pick 18 girls across the country? He and others thought it would be good to do ODP and then pick IV Regions of top players and then pick the YNT from those four teams after they battle in big time games. Politics took over quickly and he was gone. It's not like it was and for sure politics of who you know, how you know them and what your willing to pay, is the norm. It's not about how good your kid can ball anymore. I still think it's a great accomplishment for any kid who makes it. The adults have messed this whole list thing up. The adults who lie are the real losers in all this.
 
That's it? weak sauce...at least you scored a couple reach-a-rounds from the other drama queens. Checkmate!

Of course you revert to homophobic comments. "Checkmate" is knowing that every day your desperation grows as your kid continues to slip further behind his peers. While other parents enjoy their kids' games, you're hiding your anxiety with fake bravado about how ODP sucks, the refs suck, the coach sucks, and other kids are over-rated. Every game you hope maybe today will be the day your kid shows what has been lacking, but it never happens because they just aren't as good as you want them to be and they probably never were. Instead of not giving a s**t because soccer is a game played by children, you get in the car after games angry and frustrated, and your kid knows it even on those rare car rides that you keep your mouth shut about how it didn't go well. Kiddie soccer is important to you, and it is all slipping slowly away. I've seen a hundred dads like you, and you're all the same. Get used to disappointment, because I'm guessing you are raising your kid to provide you with a lifetime of it, which you will blame on everyone but yourself.
 
Can someone explain how ODP works in so cal. I see cal south made an ODP team but you can only play in cal south to make the team. For girls what clubs are even left in cal south? I’m super confused.
80% of the 05 girls were ECNL players. 90% of the players were from US Soccer. You must be registered for USYS for ODP, thus every player that was invited paid an additional $20 to get a USYS card if they already didn't have one, most didn't. This allowed them to tryout. Invite only. 18 girls chosen to travel to Arizona.
 
ODP is a program run at the national level by USYSA. The USYSA franchisee in southern California is Cal South. Other affiliation programs exist, such as US Club Soccer, AYSO, and USL Super-Y. Players not registered through a subsidiary of USYSA may not be invited to try out (politics, insurance, money, etc).
My point is the whole pathway was just cutoff as you have to be on a Cal South league last season. All the top clubs moved to SoCal this last season. If that is truly the pathway to the Olympic team your not getting the best girls in it that's for sure. ODP should be for the very best players regardless of what league your play in. You could be off the street and make the team if your good enough. Seems super stupid to me to do it the way its being done right now because I thought the goal was have the best players make the Olympic team? I guess the Eagles can market themselves as an ODP club because if you are a girl and make their team you will be on the ODP team as well. Sorry I just don't get it.

From their website - "The requirements to recommend a player is that the club is currently playing in CSL and registered with Cal South."
 
My point is the whole pathway was just cutoff as you have to be on a Cal South league last season. All the top clubs moved to SoCal this last season. If that is truly the pathway to the Olympic team your not getting the best girls in it that's for sure. ODP should be for the very best players regardless of what league your play in. You could be off the street and make the team if your good enough. Seems super stupid to me to do it the way its being done right now because I thought the goal was have the best players make the Olympic team? I guess the Eagles can market themselves as an ODP club because if you are a girl and make their team you will be on the ODP team as well. Sorry I just don't get it.

From their website - "The requirements to recommend a player is that the club is currently playing in CSL and registered with Cal South."

FFS. A lot of things have changed with youth soccer in the US since ODP was created for boys in 1979 and girls in 1982 as a way to identify the best youth players for the new concept of creating youth national teams. When the program was created, the name made more sense. They kept the same name for the same reason that 20th Century Fox makes movies in the 21st century and although Coca-Cola hasn't had cocaine in it for a few years.

Grow up. No one believes ODP in 2022 is a pathway to playing in the Olympics just as no one goes to MTV to watch music videos. You're making up fake reasons to be annoyed. But if you insist, why don't you go down to your local AT&T store where you can surely send an angry telegraph to U.S. Soccer demanding they change the name.
 
FFS. A lot of things have changed with youth soccer in the US since ODP was created for boys in 1979 and girls in 1982 as a way to identify the best youth players for the new concept of creating youth national teams. When the program was created, the name made more sense. They kept the same name for the same reason that 20th Century Fox makes movies in the 21st century and although Coca-Cola hasn't had cocaine in it for a few years.

Grow up. No one believes ODP in 2022 is a pathway to playing in the Olympics just as no one goes to MTV to watch music videos. You're making up fake reasons to be annoyed. But if you insist, why don't you go down to your local AT&T store where you can surely send an angry telegraph to U.S. Soccer demanding they change the name.
ok will do, dont really understand why your so hostile but ok.
 
Bro..you're drinking the same HATERADE juice as met61...It's obvious you guys are part of the SNUB CLUB...It's okay your kid was never invited to the party..I'm sure your kid has gotten over it, why can't you Big Papa? NAMASTE....

Yessir, in the "business" of winning of almost all of the age groups they were entered in.
LOL! There it is, bragging rights! Unfortunately, you're late to the game, it's no longer worth bragging about. But hey, You're Still Da Man in your own mind - Well done!
 
Of course you revert to homophobic comments. "Checkmate" is knowing that every day your desperation grows as your kid continues to slip further behind his peers. While other parents enjoy their kids' games, you're hiding your anxiety with fake bravado about how ODP sucks, the refs suck, the coach sucks, and other kids are over-rated. Every game you hope maybe today will be the day your kid shows what has been lacking, but it never happens because they just aren't as good as you want them to be and they probably never were. Instead of not giving a s**t because soccer is a game played by children, you get in the car after games angry and frustrated, and your kid knows it even on those rare car rides that you keep your mouth shut about how it didn't go well. Kiddie soccer is important to you, and it is all slipping slowly away. I've seen a hundred dads like you, and you're all the same. Get used to disappointment, because I'm guessing you are raising your kid to provide you with a lifetime of it, which you will blame on everyone but yourself.
As is always the case with your reams of senseless drivel, I have lost track...have you dropped the race card yet? If not, I'm sure it's on its way from you or your cheer squad.
 
Many leagues or programs out there have a misleading name, but most have some elements of truth to them

ODP doesn't mean you are considered an Olympic prospect, but they do have US Soccer scouts at their tournaments

MLS Next doesn't mean you are going to make it in MLS, but they do have MLS scouts at their events

ECNL doesn't mean your club or child is elite, but it is exclusive in the sense that not everyone can join

Girls Academy League doesn't have any Pro club affiliations as the name "academy" might suggest, but it is definitely for girls

Discovery division of the SoCal League doesn't mean anyone is watching the games to discover players, but it is the highest division in the SoCal League

Premier division in Coast Soccer League doesn't mean the clubs, games, or players are premier, but it is the highest division in CSL

National or State Cup is neither a national nor a state-level competition, although National is a higher-level competition than State

There are some league or program names that are even less true than those above:

ECRL (or ECNL-R) is not for elite clubs or teams in a particular region. It's the teams (or clubs in some cases) that didn't get admitted to ECNL. It is exclusive in the sense that not everyone can join

Elite Academy League is not for elite academies, but in most cases it is for the second team in a MLS Next club or for a club that didn't get admitted to MLS Next or ECNL. It is exclusive in the sense that not everyone can join.
 
As is always the case with your reams of senseless drivel, I have lost track...have you dropped the race card yet? If not, I'm sure it's on its way from you or your cheer squad.

You already tried to change the subject with your homophobia, but this thread is about ODP. Let me get it back on track...

It's been, what, five years since your kiddie got cut from ODP, right? I don't know what's more embarrassing, getting cut from what you say is a "joke" or being bitter about it after so many years.
 
Hey @met61, here you are in 2018 trashing an ODP roster of 12 year old girls as pathetic. Was this the team your kiddie wasn't good enough to make? Is this what you will always blame for your kid's decline?

The bigger question is what the hell is wrong with a grown man who is confident that he's invested enough time watching little girls play soccer that he knows the best 11 and 12 year old girls in a region with 25 million people? Beyond creepy.
 

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OMG @met61, it gets even better. Here you are claiming that the ODP roster doesn't have the best players because "all the legit ballers" play DA. Can you remind me again what "DA" is? Isn't it the league that collapsed years ago because it didn't have any of the "legit ballers"?

Oh, and what kind of grown man refers to 12 year old girls as "legit ballers" anyway?
 

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