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timbuck said:
As long as you don't wear a club jersey you can do whatever you want (according to pretty much everyone)
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Bunch of my sons friends wear club clothing, favorite team, random stuff, they don't match or look like a team or anything and there a
timbuck said:
Ask yourself this- Why are coaches sneaking around having practices? Or having a parent run a practice with kids in RVCA t-shirts?
Is it for the kids?
Is it to prepare for the season?
Is it to justify the club dues that are being paid?
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My son gets back from the beach the other day and tells two former pro players where down there "training" "tiny" kids in his words..

There where 5 chp type police people on quads with hemets roaming the sand. They approached the former pros, he was thinking they would tell them to move along. Nope they stopped for pictures and a talk instead no masks from them or the pros, went on there way kids continued, he says everyone is doing there thing at the beach just like they always have. Some beach cities have fines for non mask compliance but yet to see or hear about any enforcement going on and few kids seems to concerned with them.
 
watfly said:
Good question, and I don't have an answer for you. Here are some possibilities.

1) SD County is just giving Newsom the middle finger (my preferred answer, but unlikely)
2) SD County has not been notified directly by Sacto that there is no youth sports allowed under the Day Camp allowance, and SD is just playing dumb
3) The fact that youth sports is practicing in SD County hasn't come to the attention of Newsom (we are at the bottom of the state you know).

What I really think is happening is that SD has been very proactive regarding youth sports. The SD County supervisors approved youth sports under the Day Camp allowance, including approval from the counties Public Health Officer. And so far Newsom hasn't messed with SD's youth sports. I don't know that other counties went through that internal approval process and clubs and teams just assumed they could play under the Day Camp allowance. I also think Newsom has it out for the OC.

At the end of the day, none of this makes sense, and my post certainly has not made anything any clearer.
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I think you are right. The San Diego health director is also probably between a rock and a hard place. Technically, no practices are authorized ANYWHERE in California right now. State law trumps local law, though because it's a directive it's on weird ground.

The way it played out in Ventura County was a clarification issued by the county health director. Unlike San Diego, there wasn't in VC an explicit buy in by the Supervisors. Since San Diego health has 2 reports (to the state and to the Supervisors), it puts them in a horrible place.

But if what is rumored to happen with California schools happens tomorrow from the governor, it's only a matter of time before San Diego gets shut down as well. With San Fran now shuttering schools, I can't imagine any practices there go on much further. In VC we got another week than did the lower 3 counties, but it's just a matter of the shoe dropping now (if the Governor does make the announcement). No way the governor can tell people youth sports are "safe", but the schools (including the private ones and home school cooperatives) must remain shuttered. Not only politically not feasible but it could subject him to a law suit. I wouldn't be surprised if even the remaining real day camps go bye bye for August.
 
dean said:
Seems like we're still in the clear to continue training in NorCal. Girls still spread really far apart, lots of rules, coaches in masks, no contact, etc. Updated rules sent out this week emphasizing masks to be worn to/from car to field. Also, something about the players have to be 10 yards apart at all times. But other than that, our trainings continue. I hope, at the very least, this kind of training remains. It's safer than the classroom. Exercise, plus seeing their friends, etc. So important for their physical and mental health.
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Camps are kind of sacred and nobody really wants to take those away from the kids which they shouldn't. Our college daughter has been a virtual and in-person counselor, she and the kids have been loving it.

Summer camps are just about over in couple weeks so soccer under camps is going to find another way. Those counties that have asked for clarification have gotten them from the state, the don't ask dont tell tactic that some other are still using has been somewhat ignored but additional variances have been denied and some backlash or denials have happen for those going there own way it's seems. Youth sports guidance from SD was sent to governor a month ago and he didn't act on that request and he brought up cousins saying a soccer ball saying that is not a good idea.
 
Grace T. said:
I think you are right. The San Diego health director is also probably between a rock and a hard place. Technically, no practices are authorized ANYWHERE in California right now. State law trumps local law, though because it's a directive it's on weird ground.

The way it played out in Ventura County was a clarification issued by the county health director. Unlike San Diego, there wasn't in VC an explicit buy in by the Supervisors. Since San Diego health has 2 reports (to the state and to the Supervisors), it puts them in a horrible place.

But if what is rumored to happen with California schools happens tomorrow from the governor, it's only a matter of time before San Diego gets shut down as well. With San Fran now shuttering schools, I can't imagine any practices there go on much further. In VC we got another week than did the lower 3 counties, but it's just a matter of the shoe dropping now (if the Governor does make the announcement). No way the governor can tell people youth sports are "safe", but the schools (including the private ones and home school cooperatives) must remain shuttered. Not only politically not feasible but it could subject him to a law suit. I wouldn't be surprised if even the remaining real day camps go bye bye for August.
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I guess it would be too sensible to say soccer practice is ok since it is outside. Probably no hope for any games once the other shoe drops tomorrow. Obviously he is getting pressure from the Teacher's union since he said a few weeks ago that he was going to leave each county decide whether to reopen schools.
 
Fact said:
I am out of state so have not been following the latest. I thought SD, OC and LA are on the same naughty list and practices could not continue under the day camp loophole. What am I missing? I thought the OC with their Board, they would be ahead of the liberal leaning SD.
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The San Diego County Board of Supervisors has been notoriously non-liberal for as long as I can remember.
 
watfly said:
Good question, and I don't have an answer for you. Here are some possibilities.

1) SD County is just giving Newsom the middle finger (my preferred answer, but unlikely)
2) SD County has not been notified directly by Sacto that there is no youth sports allowed under the Day Camp allowance, and SD is just playing dumb
3) The fact that youth sports is practicing in SD County hasn't come to the attention of Newsom (we are at the bottom of the state you know).

What I really think is happening is that SD has been very proactive regarding youth sports. The SD County supervisors approved youth sports under the Day Camp allowance, including approval from the counties Public Health Officer. And so far Newsom hasn't messed with SD's youth sports. I don't know that other counties went through that internal approval process and clubs and teams just assumed they could play under the Day Camp allowance. I also think Newsom has it out for the OC.

At the end of the day, none of this makes sense, and my post certainly has not made anything any clearer.
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My guess is #2
 
espola said:
The San Diego County Board of Supervisors has been notoriously non-liberal for as long as I can remember.
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Since when? You might want to tell Jim and Kristin who have been the only voices of reason during this whole mess.
 
Fact said:
I would guess it is #3, being at the bottom of the state. Unfortunately i have a feeling tho it is political and the children in the OC are pawns.
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I mean, break up those idiotic MAGA Huntington Beach protests and you get soccer training back, that's a pretty good deal, I'd sure take it. Fewer dummy cultists ranting about their oxygen levels, and my kid gets to be out on the field? Where do I sign up?
 
Fact said:
I guess it would be too sensible to say soccer practice is ok since it is outside. Probably no hope for any games once the other shoe drops tomorrow. Obviously he is getting pressure from the Teacher's union since he said a few weeks ago that he was going to leave each county decide whether to reopen schools.
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This is the same governor who just a couple months ago talked about opening schools early due to the loss of learning. Now since Trump has said he wants schools open he does a 180. I understand most of this state leans democratic but this is so transparently political you can’t deny it.
 
Mic Nificent said:
I’m in SD. Kids play for different clubs and both practice 2x per week in full club gear with social distancing measures in place along with mask and temp check before practice. Neither club seems to be hiding anything....
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Just curious, do they practice at parks or schools? If the City is giving permits for parks that could be a good sign.
 
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Fact said:
Just curious, do they practice at parks or schools? If the City is giving permits for parks that could be a good sign.
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Also are all kiddos on the team practicing or are some parents holding them out for their safety or the safety of a family member at home?
 
Fact said:
Just curious, do they practice at parks or schools? If the City is giving permits for parks that could be a good sign.
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We practice in full club practice gear at a public park (with city approval), a city school field and a city owned property that the club leases and has exclusive use (although the club is reseeding the field). Nothing on the DL.

Fact said:
Also are all kiddos on the team practicing or are some parents holding them out for their safety or the safety of a family member at home?
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All kids are participating with the exception of one kid who lost an aunt to Covid; however, there is some debate as to why the kid isn't at practice.
 
One kid at a park and the other at a high school. Ive seen all teammates at practice at one time or another. Some kids miss practice here and there
 
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