New Youth Sports Guidance

[Ellejustus]

Throw Back Thursday​

I played all sports really good, but I was best of the best at baseball. My adopted mom also wanted me to be well rounded so she made sure I knew how to eat with a folk and dance with girls. 1978 getting ready for Cotillion, oh joy!!! I was forced to wear this suit for 10 weeks and I did to make my mom happy.

 

[Grace T.]

CA covid tracking system has been dropping reports since mid July. You can see it in the grey lines of your graph. It is the cliff at July 25. All case count data since then are suspect. They are scrambling to fix it.

Deaths and hospitalizations are still accurate.

Hospitalizations though are falling in La, OC, and Ventura too. Problem is they are rising in the Central Valley and San Francisco. Further, the youth guidance isn't structured to key to how badly a county is doing. Otherwise, counties in the far north of the state should be allowed to play. The fact that they haven't put in a sliding scale means we would have to wait for the entire state to get better. That's going to be a long wait as the middle of the state is just beginning the acceleration of its curve...even if our numbers go down we'll be waiting for the rest of the state to settle down. No guys.....CA is so big that somewhere in the state is going to be bad in the foreseeable future....this is a long term shut down.

 

[MR.D]

Throwback Thursday is upon us all ......................I found this old photo of my Dad playing soccer with his village friends, He's the one in the center.......They won the Village Cup that year and mysteriously the Trophy was stolen and their statue was beheaded and sent to the chancellor...................Throwback Thursday, anybody else want to post old soccer photos this Thursday while we wait for the restrictions to ease up?View attachment 8508

If playing shorts were that long in 1951, whose idea was it to shorten them?

 

[Paul Spacey]

Nah games, scrimmages, tournaments are not permitted the guidance is clear, distant training 6' for contact risk sports like soccer at all times, 8' if you're in LA + masks.

Nothing has changed much perhaps when or if the levels change things will be different but to promise parents that sanctioned scrimmages, games, tournaments will all of sudden be played is a pipe dream at this point.

CIF did the right thing and moved soccer to Spring. Train all you want until then and make the most of of but let's not pretend it's anything more than distance training and drills until the guidance is changed.

Parents at some point will not be willing to continually pay the regular club fees for distance training only, will need some reductions.

Very well summarized.

Let’s be real, based on the time it has taken to get to this point (back and forth really, we’ve not exactly had any true ‘progress’ with youth sport) coupled with the absolute fear within many communities, added to the unfortunate politics of this issue...we are not getting anywhere near sanctioned games/scrimmages in the near future and nobody in authority is going to make a sudden about-turn, certainly not here in CA anyway. We all want a return to games (Jesus, I want it as much as anyone) but it’s just not happening. Being pessimistic and realistic are different things.

Do the best you can (as a coach/parent) to help the kids under your guidance. That’s all we can do for now.

 

[Keepermom2]

Leagues, Surf Cup, etc, will delay as much as they can delay with hopes of happening since it's a source of revenue for them.
Nothing wrong with remaining hopeful. But any reasonable individual can see it will not happen.
Besides leagues having issue working on schedules without fields permits, nobody thinks about referees yet. How will it work with them?
Too may holes to make it happen in a short amount of time.

HS and club happening at the same time will be another clustefuck for Olders.
Youngers will be fine playing in Spring.
State Cup? What State Cup?

Right?! Logistics alone from all involved: the State (Youth sports were last on the list to address at all and it took a month for them to issue guidance that essentially changed nothing from what was already implemented), OC Health, District permits, CIF, and Club will prevent it.

As far as Surf Cup goes....do you really think California officials are going to be good with teams coming from hotbed states like Arizona and Texas?

 

[Messi>CR7]

Very well summarized.

Let’s be real, based on the time it has taken to get to this point (back and forth really, we’ve not exactly had any true ‘progress’ with youth sport) coupled with the absolute fear within many communities, added to the unfortunate politics of this issue...we are not getting anywhere near sanctioned games/scrimmages in the near future and nobody in authority is going to make a sudden about-turn, certainly not here in CA anyway. We all want a return to games (Jesus, I want it as much as anyone) but it’s just not happening. Being pessimistic and realistic are different things.

Do the best you can (as a coach/parent) to help the kids under your guidance. That’s all we can do for now.

More baby steps:
Today Orange County finally fell below State's threshold (100 case rate and 8% positivity rate) needed to allow in-person schools. OC will need to stay under this threshold for 14 days to re-open school. While there is no such clear guideline for youth sports, if in-person school is allowed, it's much easier to make a case for contact practice/scrimmage.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

Throw Back Thursday​

I played all sports really good, but I was best of the best at baseball. My adopted mom also wanted me to be well rounded so she made sure I knew how to eat with a folk and dance with girls. 1978 getting ready for Cotillion, oh joy!!! I was forced to wear this suit for 10 weeks and I did to make my mom happy.
View attachment 8527

Well, Spicoli, too bad your haircut wasn't as well rounded. Nice suit, though.

 

[Keepermom2]

More baby steps:
Today Orange County finally fell below State's threshold (100 case rate and 8% positivity rate) needed to allow in-person schools. OC will need to stay under this threshold for 14 days to re-open school. While there is no such clear guideline for youth sports, if in-person school is allowed, it's much easier to make a case for contact practice/scrimmage.

The case rate per 100,000 needs to be less than 25 and less than 8% positivity rate. OC Health calculates that at 97.5 per 100k and 8% positivity rate as of today.

 

[Grace T.]

Right?! Logistics alone from all involved: the State (Youth sports were last on the list to address at all and it took a month for them to issue guidance that essentially changed nothing from what was already implemented), OC Health, District permits, CIF, and Club will prevent it.

As far as Surf Cup goes....do you really think California officials are going to be good with teams coming from hotbed states like Arizona and Texas?

Agree but if the trends continue Arizona's numbers at least will look better than ours as the outbreak moves northward to higher latitutes. Texas also has most of its population towards the south. Nevada's probably going to be more of a concern in the coming weeks.

 

[Desert Hound]

Agree but if the trends continue Arizona's numbers at least will look better than ours as the outbreak moves northward to higher latitutes. Texas also has most of its population towards the south. Nevada's probably going to be more of a concern in the coming weeks.

AZ isn't a hotbed.

Interesting site. Scroll down. You can see the states where covid is spreading faster vs others.

Rt COVID-19

Up-to-date values for Rt — the number to watch to measure COVID spread.

rt.live

 

[Keepermom2]

AZ isn't a hotbed.

Interesting site. Scroll down. You can see the states where covid is spreading faster vs others.

Rt COVID-19

Up-to-date values for Rt — the number to watch to measure COVID spread.

rt.live

I don't know how many of these States would be accepted to a tournament right now. The red states are considered hot beds.

 

[Grace T.]

AZ isn't a hotbed.

Interesting site. Scroll down. You can see the states where covid is spreading faster vs others.

Rt COVID-19

Up-to-date values for Rt — the number to watch to measure COVID spread.

rt.live

Wow look at Nevada. Had no idea til you pulled out the chart. If that course continues unaltered, looks like just do tournaments in Nevada isn't going to be a viable option either,

 

[Footy30]

Well, Spicoli, too bad your haircut wasn't as well rounded. Nice suit, though.

@The Outlaw hahaha I was waiting for a response from you, when I saw this I thought well I'll be damned it's baby spicoli!!
@Ellejustus I like your hair cut

 

[Keepermom2]

AZ isn't a hotbed.

Interesting site. Scroll down. You can see the states where covid is spreading faster vs others.

Rt COVID-19

Up-to-date values for Rt — the number to watch to measure COVID spread.

rt.live

I posted in the following forum since the info wasn't related to this soccer chat.

CA County by County Covid-19 Key Metrics: Rate of CV-19 Spread over Time and Hospitalizations as % of Total Care Capacity

Don't you mean President West? I don’t get it.

www.socalsoccer.com

 

[Ellejustus]

@The Outlaw hahaha I was waiting for a response from you, when I saw this I thought well I'll be damned it's baby spicoli!!
@Ellejustus I like your hair cut

I'm the real deal brah.....My soccer pics are in storage and I will go fetch them. Great classics with writes ups from the Daily Pilot. I was baby Spicoli for sures. I put cannabis seeds in my 6th grade teachers planter. I got suspended for it too, for two days. Made the class laugh and that's all that matter to me back then. A true class clown I was. I have one of me with grandpa and my soccer mates down in TJ. One of the best games I ever played in my life. The field was packed with all the local towns people and the food and peeps were amazing. I was the talk of town and everyone thought I was pro, I kid you not. We won 2-0. I saved many shots that day. Mainly because grandpa had a rough day and my other right back sprained his ankle and he was only about 75%. The field had pebbles but super fun little local stadium. Truly one of the great times of soccer in my life. I'm a big show off type person and when i saw all the fans in the stands and people staring at me because, it was on and i was out to prove myself to be a baller and I did.

 

[BIGD]

OC will need to stay under this threshold for 14 days to re-open school.

According to San Diego news, California counties must be off the watchlist for 28 days before they can open schools for in person learning.

"The letter said “the new metrics announced to San Diego County Superintendents [on Tuesday] require our county to be off the monitoring list for two 14-day cycles (a total of 28 consecutive days). Additionally, if at any point during the aforementioned 28-day period, the county exceeds established thresholds for three days, it will be placed back on the state monitoring watchlist. Then, the county would need to remain off the monitoring list for another 28 days to resume in-person instruction.”

 

[Chalklines]

I don't know how many of these States would be accepted to a tournament right now. The red states are considered hot beds.

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Utah

 

[Messi>CR7]

According to San Diego news, California counties must be off the watchlist for 28 days before they can open schools for in person learning.

"The letter said “the new metrics announced to San Diego County Superintendents [on Tuesday] require our county to be off the monitoring list for two 14-day cycles (a total of 28 consecutive days). Additionally, if at any point during the aforementioned 28-day period, the county exceeds established thresholds for three days, it will be placed back on the state monitoring watchlist. Then, the county would need to remain off the monitoring list for another 28 days to resume in-person instruction.”

That might be a county specific decision. It's 14 days in LA/OC.

 

[Grace T.]

Utah

The driver is a killer...it's the outer edge of driveability and brutal for just a weekend...would everyone on a Socal team want to fly right now?

And it starts to get cold here in October. Kids here play the end of the season in the snow.

p.s. just had the thought there's likely not going to be Halloween...that's so sad.

 

[Glitterhater]

The driver is a killer...it's the outer edge of driveability and brutal for just a weekend...would everyone on a Socal team want to fly right now?

And it starts to get cold here in October. Kids here play the end of the season in the snow.

p.s. just had the thought there's likely not going to be Halloween...that's so sad.

I was wondering about the Halloween thing. Can they enforce no Halloween? I'm in a pretty "open minded" area and I could see several neighborhoods still participating. That would be so sad if it couldn't go on!