So let me get this straight. If DD has already had first recruiting interaction with College Coach prior to rule change, she can still be offered a verbal? My DD is a freshman in high school. Also, what would be the definition of "recruiting interaction"? That could mean alot of different lines of communication.
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So let me get this straight. If DD has already had first recruiting interaction with College Coach prior to rule change, she can still be offered a verbal? My DD is a freshman in high school. Also, what would be the definition of "recruiting interaction"? That could mean alot of different lines of communication.
dk_b
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No idea how it’s being interpreted but I doubt the ncaa is going to “grandfather” people who started before the rule change. But if my kid were impacted I’d definitely figure out a way to ask the question - through the club coach, by calling the ncaa, some other way.
No, she cannot get an offer because that would require contact between the staff and your kid. Your kid cannot talk to anyone until after her sophomore year. It's that simple. Enjoy the time.
Well to me if I am reading the new rules correctly, DD can still be offered a verbal if it is not the first recruitment communication between DD and College Coach. Hence the new rules would not apply in reference to communication between DD and College Coach since the process has already been initiated between both parties. You can't be offered a verbal if the two parties don't continue to communicate. Why else would the verbal exception be included in the new rules? If it stated "no verbals until 6/15 after Sophomore year", that would be pretty clear with that part of rule change.
dk_b
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I would not take the risk without being very, VERY clear statement from the NCAA or the school. The way I read the new rules, everything was erased - any contacts that happened with frosh or sophs (or middle schoolers) are as though they did not happen. So kids who had had extensive conversations with coaches could not continue them and anyone who had not been given an offer had to wait until 6/15 after Soph year. I see how you'd form your interpretation but, on this one, I would not want there to be any grey area if it were my kid.
I agree with you on that. Would need to get further clarification from the NCAA regarding the specific language of the new rules in this particular area. Just curious on other people's interpretation more than anything. My DD now has a couple more years to focus on development rather than worrying what school she is going to attend.
You are not reading the rules correctly. There is no verbal exception in the new rules. You cannot speak to a coaching staff until after your kid's sophomore year. Period. It doesn't need to state "no verbals until 6/15 after Sophomore year" if you cannot speak with them AT ALL.
I completely agree with MarkM’s interpretation. Curious about what does this mean for the 2022 kids whose verbal commitments were already public before the change, like on TopDrawerSoccer? unverified, of course, but still out there. Seems like they’re left hanging for more than a year and a lot can change during that time.
shales1002
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For 2022’s they are no longer allowed to communicate with coaches until June 15,2020. All conversations were had prior to the new rule change.
Right, agreed. I was curious about whether those pre-rule-change conversations and verbals are actually worth anything now, when there’s a year of absolute silence mandated between the coach and the player.
dk_b
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Pre-rule change verbals are worth the same as before. Not sure what that was though since they were non-binding.
"...not worth the paper they weren't written on..."