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Glen said:
Jill Ellis is a foreigner coaching our national team. We obviously have the same thing on the men's side - and half the pool was born in other countries. If US Soccer was about about nationalism, that objective was lost a long time ago. Although it was pretty rich listening to Ellis talking about US nationalism.

Did you see those little girls kneeling while holding the flag at the game? Shame on them! They should be politically correct and stand while holding the flag. Oh, the irony Bernie . . .
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The players on the mens national team are all Americans. Just because they weren't born on US soil doesn't mean they aren't. Are you saying a baby born on a US military base in Germany is NOT a US citizen or individuals who are naturalized US citizens are also NOT American?

What about my father who wasn't born in the US, but was in the US Navy and fought in Vietnam...would you consider him a foreigner and not an American?
 
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NoGoal said:
The players on the mens national team are all Americans. Just because they weren't born on US soil doesn't mean they aren't. Are you saying a baby born on a US military base in Germany is NOT a US citizen or individuals who are naturalized US citizens are also NOT American?

What about my father who wasn't born in the US, but was in the US Navy and fought in Vietnam...would you consider him a foreigner and not an American?
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I was being sarcastic. Neither Klinsmann nor Eillis are actually "foreigners." I believe they are both US citizens. Obviously, a bad xenophobic joke on my part if it was misunderstood.

But let's get real. Half the guys on the US team would be playing for Germany/Iceland or elsewhere if they thought that was a better soccer opportunity (i.e., they could make the team). It's part of Klinnsman strategy to lock them early under FIFA rules by giving these "dual citizens" early opportunities. Bottom line, I personally don't consider someone an American if he or she would consider saluting a foreign flag because that gave them a better chance to make a national soccer team. I think that is BS. We even see it in these blogs where foreign soccer associations are recruiting US players based on some lose connection to a foreign country. Where's the allegiance?

As for your father, I would consider him an American (i.e., non-foreigner) if he is a citizen. But a lot of foreigners participate in foreign wars. I believe they are called mercenaries. Though, the new slang seems to be "private contractor."
 
Glen said:
I was being sarcastic. Neither Klinsmann nor Eillis are actually "foreigners." I believe they are both US citizens. Obviously, a bad xenophobic joke on my part if it was misunderstood.

But let's get real. Half the guys on the US team would be playing for Germany/Iceland or elsewhere if they thought that was a better soccer opportunity (i.e., they could make the team). It's part of Klinnsman strategy to lock them early under FIFA rules by giving these "dual citizens" early opportunities. Bottom line, I personally don't consider someone an American if he or she would consider saluting a foreign flag because that gave them a better chance to make a national soccer team. I think that is BS. We even see it in these blogs where foreign soccer associations are recruiting US players based on some lose connection to a foreign country. Where's the allegiance?

As for your father, I would consider him an American (i.e., non-foreigner) if he is a citizen. But a lot of foreigners participate in foreign wars. I believe they are called mercenaries. Though, the new slang seems to be "private contractor."
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Is "Let's get real" also meant to be sarcastic?
 
From the inception of our great country to this current moment - kudos to all Americans that have stood up (or in this case kneeled) to injustice and said, "No More. We will not tolerate this. We can, and will, do better." That is American Patriotism at its finest.
 
The only injustice is the false narrative of injustice in the U.S. Keep deflecting from the real issue of who is committing crimes and what political party is responsible. 8 years of Democrat rule and this country is more divided than ever before, of course that is the goal, less patriotism and more division.
 
As tragic as this shooting is, I could only guess the officer did not wake up that morning and had the premeditated idea of shooting a black man and face the scrutiny she is about to go through. We cannot villanize a whole organization because of incidents like this, like Rapinoe and Kapernick are trying to do. That is why police officers are being attacked and killed. Because of these athletes success, like politicians and outspoken entertainers, they have the luxury to live in their insulated shelter enviroment and can afford to be those armchair activist. Put yourself in the shoes of this female officer, clearly her fear overwhelmed her during this incident and impacted her judgement. Some folks just shouldn't do that type of work. I am only speculating when I say that there are inherent risks and dangers when it comes to being in the military and law enforcement. Unfortunately, they have to be always perfect in their decision making, at the most critical stressful moment. I still admire those that are willing to risk everything, in order to provide the security and freedom so many take for granted.
 
reno114 said:
As tragic as this shooting is, I could only guess the officer did not wake up that morning and had the premeditated idea of shooting a black man and face the scrutiny she is about to go through. We cannot villanize a whole organization because of incidents like this, like Rapinoe and Kapernick are trying to do. That is why police officers are being attacked and killed. Because of these athletes success, like politicians and outspoken entertainers, they have the luxury to live in their insulated shelter enviroment and can afford to be those armchair activist. Put yourself in the shoes of this female officer, clearly her fear overwhelmed her during this incident and impacted her judgement. Some folks just shouldn't do that type of work. I am only speculating when I say that there are inherent risks and dangers when it comes to being in the military and law enforcement. Unfortunately, they have to be always perfect in their decision making, at the most critical stressful moment. I still admire those that are willing to risk everything, in order to provide the security and freedom so many take for granted.
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The victim in this case was unarmed, and not threatening anyone.

Some people shouldn't be cops.
 
reno114 said:
Totally agree, it seems that being brave when faced with danger is not a criteria anymore.
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Danger? It was confirmed the individual's SUV broke down, his hands were in the air, lying on the ground after being tasered. He was unarmed, shot dead, and ambulance called in late, WTH! Why the delay, were they trying to figure out an excuse why they killed an unarmed black man?
 
reno114 said:
As tragic as this shooting is, I could only guess the officer did not wake up that morning and had the premeditated idea of shooting a black man and face the scrutiny she is about to go through. We cannot villanize a whole organization because of incidents like this, like Rapinoe and Kapernick are trying to do. That is why police officers are being attacked and killed. Because of these athletes success, like politicians and outspoken entertainers, they have the luxury to live in their insulated shelter enviroment and can afford to be those armchair activist. Put yourself in the shoes of this female officer, clearly her fear overwhelmed her during this incident and impacted her judgement. Some folks just shouldn't do that type of work. I am only speculating when I say that there are inherent risks and dangers when it comes to being in the military and law enforcement. Unfortunately, they have to be always perfect in their decision making, at the most critical stressful moment. I still admire those that are willing to risk everything, in order to provide the security and freedom so many take for granted.
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Even killing an unarmed individual and destroying that families lives?

Have some empathy on the innocent individual that was killed for no reason.
 
To set the record straight so you can unravel your bunched up panties, it is tragic this unarmed man was killed by a person who should never have been given that position. I do not believe it was premeditated, her fear during the situation overwhelmed her decision making. As stated some people shouldn't be cops.
 
reno114 said:
To set the record straight so you can unravel your bunched up panties, it is tragic this unarmed man was killed by a person who should never have been given that position. I do not believe it was premeditated, her fear during the situation overwhelmed her decision making. As stated some people shouldn't be cops.
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*Her fear (of Black people) during the situation "overwhelmed" (influenced) her decision making. As stated "some people" (racists) shouldn't be cops.
 
NoGoal said:
This is one of the reasons why sports athletes are protesting. I hope these cops rot in jail!

Watch the video!

http://www.aol.com/article/news/201...age-shows-tulsa-police-kill-unarmed/21475599/
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It's adorable how you think the athletes disrespecting the flag actually care about this social issue, and aren't just garnering attention for themselves. a second string quarterback and an almost has been women's soccer player are spokespeople for human rights? not hardly. and if they were, they would do so in a constructive way, not a derisive, caustic, and controversial way that separates people more. absolutely adorable.
 
baldref said:
It's adorable how you think the athletes disrespecting the flag actually care about this social issue, and aren't just garnering attention for themselves. a second string quarterback and an almost has been women's soccer player are spokespeople for human rights? not hardly. and if they were, they would do so in a constructive way, not a derisive, caustic, and controversial way that separates people more. absolutely adorable.
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It's adorable how you think you can read people's minds. Even more adorable is your apparent belief that you will convince anyone of your viewpoint.
 
TCD said:
*Her fear (of Black people) during the situation "overwhelmed" (influenced) her decision making. As stated "some people" (racists) shouldn't be cops.
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Women shouldn't be in that situation, as well as firemen or in the regular military. It puts peoples lives in danger. This situation has been brought to you by political correctness.
 
reno114 said:
To set the record straight so you can unravel your bunched up panties, it is tragic this unarmed man was killed by a person who should never have been given that position. I do not believe it was premeditated, her fear during the situation overwhelmed her decision making. As stated some people shouldn't be cops.
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No one posted it was premeditated!

The video shows, she already had back-up and the individual was lying on the ground, before she killed him cold blooded.
 
baldref said:
It's adorable how you think the athletes disrespecting the flag actually care about this social issue, and aren't just garnering attention for themselves. a second string quarterback and an almost has been women's soccer player are spokespeople for human rights? not hardly. and if they were, they would do so in a constructive way, not a derisive, caustic, and controversial way that separates people more. absolutely adorable.
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I never posted that I agreed with the athletes using the anthem and flag as their platform, but it's their freedom of speech/expression if they elect to do so.
 
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