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you are not factoring in time. Let’s set the base line for the chicken processor for 1 hour as our unit of measure (it should probably be 15-20 minutes since that seems to be the time period over which masks break down and viral loads get sufficiently high, but let’s keep it simple). So at work the chicken processor over the course of a week is taking 8 risks per day in a high risk setting over the course of 5-6 days. So 40 rolls of the dice (and really you have to then factor in the number of people he is also interacting with over the course of that time). But if he goes to visit his buddy he is only taking 1 roll of the dice. Given the chances of exposure his work over time is significantly (by multiple factors) more risky than an indoor one off meeting with his buddy.

The n though is still blowing my mind. If you were a high data guy the n shouldn’t be possible. It would tend to indicate you think you are data guy but are really an intuitive guy and that’s affecting therefore how you are interpreting the data...it would explain a lot (when coupled with the j) of why you lean so heavily into data (and so often get it so smack right) but then the interpretation tends to skew. The theory is also elegant because it explains the politics (and that you think you are center right but very clearly arent)
1- Your 40 rolls of the dice are not independent events. A better analogy would be, you grab a new set of loaded dice each month, then roll them 160 times.

2- the guy can still have the beer with his buddy. He just should do so outside, and put his mask back on when he’s done drinking it.

3- You’re still having trouble understanding compound growth. You want to understand this as “how do I protect myself in a world where the risk is fixed.”. The society is protected, or not, based on “how do we limit covid risk over the next N viral host generations.”

Out of your league.

As am I. I have the DEQ modelling but my stats are too weak. But at least I’m not standing on pre-calc and making declarations about differential equations modeling systems.
 
I’ll adult when magats adult. So probably never. Or maybe on inauguration day I will turn a new leaf and wait for the first trumpanzee to start making up s**t about Newsom, or making derogatory comments about race or sexual orientation. Or do you think we can safely dispense with formalities given the inevitability of their behavior?

Who needs to make anything up about dirtbag Newsom? He and his drunken, babbling aunt write everything for us.
 
Gen X and older might have a problem with bathroom sharing. Younger generations are more open to these changes going on. My neighbors have 3 kids in their 20’s. Husband and wife are pro trump. Kids are completely against that. Bottom line who cares what she/he looks like. I just want someone that can communicate without insulting the reporters all the time. I couldn’t stand watching the young lady with an attitude.

That's fine for your opinion. I dont want a grown man dresses as a woman in the bathroom with my 11 year old, sorry, call me old fashioned but no way. How you choose to live your life is your business and I'm fine with that but dont impact your lifestyle on me or my family. That will lead to a problem for sure.
 
That's fine for your opinion. I dont want a grown man dresses as a woman in the bathroom with my 11 year old, sorry, call me old fashioned but no way. How you choose to live your life is your business and I'm fine with that but dont impact your lifestyle on me or my family. That will lead to a problem for sure.
How would you feel if your 11 year old girl wants to be a man and dress like a man when she grows up but is scared to tell you because you’re “old fashioned?”
 
How would you feel if your 11 year old girl wants to be a man and dress like a man when she grows up but is scared to tell you because you’re “old fashioned?”

Ignore this asshat. This is the same dude that on another thread wanted to meet someone else on the board to presumably go fisticuffs. He has a brain the size of a walnut. The definition of meathead.
 
I have the DEQ modelling but my stats are too weak. But at least I’m not standing on pre-calc and making declarations about differential equations modeling systems.
I like the loaded dice analogy

You questioned why it’s important. Here’s why it is. For me, the math is almost an irrelevancy. I’m not making declarations about modeling systems. I’m saying they are practically worthless and pointing out why the models are broken and why they are incongruous to what’s actually happening in the world. It’s why you and others here from time to time may accuse me of cherry picking sources or data.

the n is important because you are doing something similar (except you think you aren’t). You aren’t a “trust the data” or “trust the science” guy. You are bending the data to suit your own narrative. You are hunting for explanations to suit your narrative (which has always been there has to be a way we can control this thing because you seem to have a need to believe it can be controlled). The funny mechanism at work here is the j...when pushed into a corner you have a tendency to want to fall back on the operating mechanism for reassurance: “I’m a math guy...I can do DEQ modeling...look at me”. it would indicate at various times in your career you have made what was ultimately proven to be a wrong decision, but you justified based on following the data when in truth you were following your intuition, but have for whatever reason become sensitive to that effect.

here’s why else it matters and why I’ve just blown my own mind. I’d speculate many people who enter public health are n’s as well but would psychologically want to classify themselves as being data driven. Why? Because they were attracted to the feature of being presented a problem that can be analyzed but not necessarily solved (as opposed to a rocket ship that if the fuel equations aren’t perfect it go boom). Add to that a healthy j (fauci is all about the j) and we get why they’ve behaved as they’ve behaved to the bafflement of many of the rest of us...whether true data people or true intuitives. In any case it explains a lot so much thanks for that insight....useful.
 
That's fine for your opinion. I dont want a grown man dresses as a woman in the bathroom with my 11 year old, sorry, call me old fashioned but no way. How you choose to live your life is your business and I'm fine with that but dont impact your lifestyle on me or my family. That will lead to a problem for sure.

Don’t impact your homophobic lifestyle on others. Only use single stall bathrooms. Ha ha.

Like I said earlier, you are an embarrassment to your kid.
 
I like the loaded dice analogy

You questioned why it’s important. Here’s why it is. For me, the math is almost an irrelevancy. I’m not making declarations about modeling systems. I’m saying they are practically worthless and pointing out why the models are broken and why they are incongruous to what’s actually happening in the world. It’s why you and others here from time to time may accuse me of cherry picking sources or data.

the n is important because you are doing something similar (except you think you aren’t). You aren’t a “trust the data” or “trust the science” guy. You are bending the data to suit your own narrative. You are hunting for explanations to suit your narrative (which has always been there has to be a way we can control this thing because you seem to have a need to believe it can be controlled). The funny mechanism at work here is the j...when pushed into a corner you have a tendency to want to fall back on the operating mechanism for reassurance: “I’m a math guy...I can do DEQ modeling...look at me”. it would indicate at various times in your career you have made what was ultimately proven to be a wrong decision, but you justified based on following the data when in truth you were following your intuition, but have for whatever reason become sensitive to that effect.

here’s why else it matters and why I’ve just blown my own mind. I’d speculate many people who enter public health are n’s as well but would psychologically want to classify themselves as being data driven. Why? Because they were attracted to the feature of being presented a problem that can be analyzed but not necessarily solved (as opposed to a rocket ship that if the fuel equations aren’t perfect it go boom). Add to that a healthy j (fauci is all about the j) and we get why they’ve behaved as they’ve behaved to the bafflement of many of the rest of us...whether true data people or true intuitives. In any case it explains a lot so much thanks for that insight....useful.
Figuring out why rocket ships go boom is actually a classic data driven intuitive skill. Tons of statistics to analyze the failure rate of each part. And intuition to have a sense for which types of failure would cause which types of boom.

The intuitive part of math just doesn’t show up until mid college. (except for AHSME/AIME/AMO or proof based geometry, if you took those in HS)
 
Magat desperation is palpable. So much losing. Bigly.

Lost the election. Lost congress. Lost everything they want in CA. Lost more than 60 lawsuits. Lost their coup. Lost their claim the election was stolen. What a sorry bunch of sad sacks. Just like their sad loser leader who can’t even muster the “courage” to show up to the inauguration. So pathetic. And starting tomorrow they will be forced to endure complete sentences.
OMG....go away! We are trying to get our kids back to playing the sport they love and you constantly show your Trump Derangement Syndrome. What are you going to do tomorrow? You really need a hobby!
 
The intuitive part of math just doesn’t show up until mid college. (except for AHSME/AIME/AMO or proof based geometry, if you took those in HS)
Wow that explains why I loved geometry when I couldn’t stand the rest of math and why geometry was the sorting ground for a lot of kids being ejected from the honors track when we hit that (though they had hung along all through elementary school). Mind blown again

So if you don’t get to the intuitive part until mid college, how’d you survive until then? You’d have thought you’d be miserable with a math focus? Or is it that you are only borderline n (I for example am borderline e and struggle to comprehend my kid or the burden lockdowns place on him, who is an off the scale e...he’s had a children’s book published due out in February which was his attempt to explain it to me and teachers...I have to say as a low e I don’t fully get it still)?
 
Who said you have to be indoors in order to socialize? Most of us are healthy enough to survive a few minutes outside, despite the severe socal winters.

So go outside. Spend some time in the big room with the blue ceiling. Take a walk and talk with friends.

You don't have to be inside with a plate of food and a drink in your hand in order to be social.
Anecdotally from my experience, the vast majority of cases are coming from indoor socialization. From my observations I don't see anything that indicates that outdoor socialization is of any material risk.

IMO if you socialize outdoors, keep your distance at Vons and the Home Depot, and enjoy some outdoor dining you're at very little risk for Covid while maintaining your mental health. Only considering your Covid health is not healthy.
 
Good news. Social Distancing is no longer necessary!! But of course youth rallies about kids playing sports can be very dangerous, so don't do that!!
So does this mean if we wear mask groups of people together don't matter? Wonder if it will be alright to watch a sports event in California now? Of course we'll all be wearing mask so it should be okay? Finally!! Thanks Joe
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Good news. Social Distancing is no longer necessary!! But of course youth rallies about kids playing sports can be very dangerous, so don't do that!!
So does this mean if we wear mask groups of people together don't matter? Wonder if it will be alright to watch a sports event in California now? Of course we'll all be wearing mask so it should be okay? Finally!! Thanks Joe
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You don't think they had a level above of NBA-style testing?

Optics aren't great....but doesn't mean logic goes out the window.
 
sigh....

You don't think they had a level above of NBA-style testing?

Optics aren't great....but doesn't mean logic goes out the window.
I agree, logic still should prevail...in my opinion it just doesn't look good, especially for those saying how bad it was to have a youth rally...but how hard would it have been to try and keep the distance...it just makes it look like "we can do what we want, but you have to do this" kind of mentality
 
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