It’s not just 7v7 the fields are usually 9v9 fields. Is ridiculous.
Learning all positions when younger?
- Thread starter Lou789
- Start date
Why can I ask? And futsal like indoor futsal on the basketball courts?
Yes he has been vocal about it himself thankfully. I don’t want to say anything to the coach anymore. One conversation was enough lol.
No he isn’t playing 4v4. I wish he was. So they did this clock principle drill during practice?
whatithink
GOLD
The clock principle was during games - every game. Practice was all technical drills with the last 20 minutes being a "game".
I would argue the majority of development is done through unsupervised playing and having a ball at their feet. The club coach can only do so much. A 6 year old needs to be allowed to dribble, dribble and dribble and take on players. You can learn to pass and play positions later. Too much structure too early is not good.
First of all its small sided in a small area which encourages (actually requires) ball control, quick decision making and movement off the ball. (although its not that small for 5 year olds). I'm a firm believer in the "game as a teacher" as the best way to learn soccer, and futsal does it quicker than outdoor. You get far more touches in futsal, and its harder for a coach to joystick futsal since play is quicker. Doesn't matter whether its indoor our outdoor futsal.
Just FYI that's what I would do, I think you need to go with your gut and what your son enjoys. You already seem to understand that your not in the best situation. It sounds like your coach/club represents everything that is wrong with youth soccer.
One of the other nice things about futsal is EVERYONE touches the ball. Even the goalies are expected to dribble out and play offense sometimes. There's general positions but they're defined by ability not the coach. Even with general positions defenders switch with forwards all the time during play.
Kind of a Total Football concept.
rainbow_unicorn
PREMIER
TBH, a 5-year old should not be playing club soccer. Six-year olds playing club is questionable. There are plenty of junior programs or AYSO for 5 and 6 year olds where they'll get to play multiple positions and get touches on the ball. Or, as other posters have pointed out, futsal is good at the younger ages as well.
Maybe, maybe not. There are some kids that are different. The OP said his son was bored of AYSO.
I really agree with this but my son was very bored with AYSO. He was scoring all the goals. It was way too easy and really unfair sometimes gor the other kids. He was just playing but he was much better then the others. I saw no other choice.
But futsal is a great idea.
At this level there should be plenty of times during the season to move kids around . The majority of the games are either you are getting blown out or you are blowing out the other team
In 7v7 I’ve never seen a team be successful with hiding weak players on defense , you can really only hide them on the wings , whether you play a 3-3 or a 2-1-3 . You can maybe get away with it , but you have to have a dominant central midfielder or one of your other defenders has to be a stud
Defender is not a bad thing , most coaches or at least the good ones in my experience never play weak players in those positions plus you said he has the freedom to push the ball up the field . I certainly think the coach should be moving players around in the many non competitive games you probably have
I’ve rarely seen it work out with the parent moving a kid to another club/team strictly because of positions
Do you like the coach ? Do you like the parents , does your kid enjoy it ? I think those are the biggest things you should be looking at this age
futsal , arena league , Friday night leagues , spring rec leagues, guest for the second and third teams at your club . All opportunities for your kid to play a bunch of different position
To be fair what we are usually talking about ayso at u7 is 4v4 with 4 five minute halves, no gks, tiny portable goals, and no refs or offside. Basically the ops son can dribble and shoot while most of the others can’t (swinging and missing). That’s all that’s really required to make him score all the goals, in a game where they aren’t even tracking the goals (just in the parents heads). If the kid is even half coordinated, anyone can build their kid into an ayso superstar just by teaching them those two things.
Btw I always stop to look at these games on the field because they are so cute and funny. 8 little ducks bunched around a ball trying to hack at it and the coaches yelling “spread out” but they don’t listen to him and when someone does boot the ball the ducks go running after it and all start hacking away again. It’s a very low threshold.
Yeah, I think all our kids dominated rec soccer. My point is that there are a few rare young kids that are ready for and capable of more intense training. However, the problem is not the age of the kid, its the quality of the coaching they receive, and the focus of the clubs on winning. I've said this before, most US soccer coaches have a good knowledge of the game, but don't know how to teach kids. Unfortunately, that seems to be at all ages from 5 to 15.
aong cangkol
SILVER
It's not the kid, parents are worried that their kids missed the boat if other kids already get professional coaching at the same age.
Rollonyoubears
BRONZE
Ahh, the joys of 5-7 year olds playing soccer. If ball chasing was a sport, they'd all be Olympians.
Rollonyoubears
BRONZE
This is where we need to wake up as parents. I don't care if Messi is coaching, 5 and 6 year olds are going to do the same thing, which is bee swarm, chase the ball, and not stay in channels. Defenders will either stand in one spot or they will be up near the opponent's goal if you look away for a second. My son (8 yo) played 2 years of AYSO and 1 year of rec under another local club, and he is doing just fine in his first year of club soccer. He's got a great coach, and they are at the age where things are starting to click. That is not because of his coaching (or lack of professional coaches) for the previous 3 years, but because of the age.
If your kid loves the game, and more importantly you as parents are willing to commit, then by all means join a club. If you are going to halfway commit, I'd say don't waste your time or money.