LAGSB - what’s going on??

I think they have had this planned since the beginning of the 2018 year, which is wrong for those who where looking to develop their kids. Our 2011 program was awful no development, very disappointing spring and fall season. Coaching excuse where “we’ll our director doesn’t want us to no do much” . They need to refund some moneys to the parents. One of the coaches won’t mention any names, took me off the team snap (since I didn’t bring my child to practice that started January , which in my defense hey you told be we would resume mid February early March) sent out an email telling the rest of the parents “I will no longer be coaching at SB and moving to Steel United or whatever they are calling the new club. And telling the parents if they wanted to join he’s new team there. To my believe they had this planned for a while already.
 
A few suggestions......Have no expectations of any coaches, clubs, or DOC's and don't rely on any parents or team administrators to have your back or be straight with you. Watch carefully and make sure you are asking questions and taking care of your own player's future. Change clubs when things are going sideways and don't waste your time being angry and resentful, you'll get nothing from that.
 
I can't slamm anybody because I have no opinion on the quality of LAGSB, but what I can slam is the concept of a publicly traded company in the gas and energy field acquiring a number of youth soccer teams, with the idea that they will have clubs in 4-5 states in the next year. That is just freaking weird.

As @espola points out, Cal South prohibits for profit youth clubs. US Club Soccer doesn't directly prohibit it in the bylaws and its likely SuperY and the NPSL also probably doesn't, but I don't see this working in SoCal given the other options available to families.
 
Soccer43 said:
A few suggestions......Have no expectations of any coaches, clubs, or DOC's and don't rely on any parents or team administrators to have your back or be straight with you. Watch carefully and make sure you are asking questions and taking care of your own player's future. Change clubs when things are going sideways and don't waste your time being angry and resentful, you'll get nothing from that.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. In my recent experience, when a club isn't paying coaches/keeper trainers it is a sign that there are cash flow problems which always leads to coaches leaving and taking their teams with them. The last thing I am going to do is sit around in the middle of drama and lack of ethical practices for a soccer club when soccer clubs are like buses...another one comes along every 10 minutes. Just a thought...even if the club has cash flow problems, the last thing they should do is not pay coaches. If they don't pay coaches, they will eventually lose revenue from those teams and the inevitable damage to the club reputation from word of mouth or worse, here on Socal soccer.
 
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What does this split mean for the remaining (only girl) teams? Does the club have enough revenue to keep the girl side afloat?

This is probably the craziest thing I have seen in the club soccer world. I've seen whole teams leave before but never a whole program---25-30 teams!! It really speaks volumes....the coaches must have been completely fed up. Best of luck to all of involved, most of all the kids!!
 
Calisoccer11 said:
What does this split mean for the remaining (only girl) teams? Does the club have enough revenue to keep the girl side afloat?

This is probably the craziest thing I have seen in the club soccer world. I've seen whole teams leave before but never a whole program---25-30 teams!! It really speaks volumes....the coaches must have been completely fed up. Best of luck to all of involved, most of all the kids!!
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Interested in the question on the girls side as well. Wow and Wow that its all happening. Feel really bad for the kids.
 
Calisoccer11 said:
What does this split mean for the remaining (only girl) teams? Does the club have enough revenue to keep the girl side afloat?

This is probably the craziest thing I have seen in the club soccer world. I've seen whole teams leave before but never a whole program---25-30 teams!! It really speaks volumes....the coaches must have been completely fed up. Best of luck to all of involved, most of all the kids!!
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The fixed costs associated with the quality fields, coaching directors, admin, etc needed for a premier youth soccer organization requires a minimum number of teams. The last time I was involved in youth club budgeting, that number was north of 3o teams.

As for this being crazy, a similar thing happened with the Exiles in PV in terms of a breakup and mass defection, though in that case they took a good overall organization destroyed it virtually overnight. The shell was kept alive for a year or two before it, ironically, merged with LAGSB.

Having been an observer and participant in the South Bay soccer scene for the past 15 years, LAGSB was always a club without a unifying or discernible culture. In 15 years it has been South Bay Soccer Club, The Force, South Bay Force, LAGSB, then finally LAGSB post-Exiles merger. They have/had some great teams and coaches along the way, but the organization had a tendency to be ever changing and somewhat transitory for both staff and players.

I have no insight into the specific reasons this happened, but expect it is the product of many bad decisions. However, I would be reluctant to paint all clubs unreliable due to this specific event. In the South Bay, both Beach and FRAM are organizations with pretty clear cultures and decent stability. If I were a family impacted by this, I would take a long hard look at those two clubs before I followed a coach to an unknown for-profit enterprise, regardless how good that coach was. In this case, an uncertain or bad club may trump (no pun intended) a good coach.
 
rainbow_unicorn said:
No.
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Yes he is, this has been in the make for about 2 years, trying to get a foothold in SoCal soccer either by investment in clubs or peeling away teams to form their own club. Investment in training facilities will be their selling point.
javiecua03 said:
I think they have had this planned since the beginning of the 2018 year, which is wrong for those who where looking to develop their kids. Our 2011 program was awful no development, very disappointing spring and fall season. Coaching excuse where “we’ll our director doesn’t want us to no do much” . They need to refund some moneys to the parents. One of the coaches won’t mention any names, took me off the team snap (since I didn’t bring my child to practice that started January , which in my defense hey you told be we would resume mid February early March) sent out an email telling the rest of the parents “I will no longer be coaching at SB and moving to Steel United or whatever they are calling the new club. And telling the parents if they wanted to join he’s new team there. To my believe they had this planned for a while already.
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Not sure about taking LAGSB teams but this group has been trying for about 2 years to get into SoCal soccer either investing in a club as a major partner or buying one.
The Hedge fund executive behind this believes in privatization of youth sports.
He started this back in 2015 with youth baseball.
 
LASTMAN14 said:
That would be me. ELC may be referring to me because I don't hide what club my kids play for. And, I am one of those parents that has paid, which he knows and many of the parents on here know, with the exception of you.
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So you've been misrepresent who you really are, pitching all kinds of this about things the girls programs, tryouts, etc yet you just happen to know all these details about the boys program & yet have never posted anything in the boys thread before.

Really now tell us who you really are? Paying parent of a girl in the SB program,. Coach, board member which is it now?

Guess it's no mistake that the SB mailing address is right near the bullpen and your hiding some more BS

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lafalafa said:
So you've been misrepresent who you really are, pitching all kinds of this about things the girls programs, tryouts, etc yet you just happen to know all these details about the boys program & yet have never posted anything in the boys thread before.

Really now tell us who you really are? Paying parent of a girl in the SB program,. Coach, board member which is it now?

Guess it's no mistake that the SB mailing address is right near the bullpen and your hiding some more BS

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Dude, I don't even know where to begin and tell you your a complete fool and don't have an idea at all about anything. First of all I have been on this forum since my kids were U8. So 7 years. Which means the old forum. I answer roll call. Please look at the G06 and G05 Roll Call posted by Tech. Who by the way is friend of mine. Please see my National Cup break downs over the years. Please find my part in exposing the Anaheim Surf debacle at 06 State Cup two years ago. I typically do not post on the boys forum because I have girls and my interests lie there. Therefore I am a paying parent. I know both the boys admin and the girls. I have been asked to help by both sides because I am a parent of the club and a poster on the forum. Enough said.
And, what the hell has the Bull Pen have to do with the club office location. Both are in the same city in the South Bay. In fact I live in the same city.
 
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Runuts said:
Yes he is, this has been in the make for about 2 years, trying to get a foothold in SoCal soccer either by investment in clubs or peeling away teams to form their own club. Investment in training facilities will be their selling point.


Not sure about taking LAGSB teams but this group has been trying for about 2 years to get into SoCal soccer either investing in a club as a major partner or buying one.
The Hedge fund executive behind this believes in privatization of youth sports.
He started this back in 2015 with youth baseball.
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Are you talking about JB Frost or Me? Either way wrong.
 
LASTMAN14 said:
Dude, I don't even know where to begin and tell you your a complete fool and don't have an idea at all about anything. First of all I have been on this forum since my kids were U8. So 7 years. Which means the old forum. I answer roll call. Please look at the G06 and G05 Roll Call posted by Tech. Who by the way is friend of mine. Please see my National Cup break downs over the years. Please find my part in exposing the Anaheim Surf debacle at 06 State Cup two years ago. I typically do not post on the boys forum because I have girls and my interests lie there. Therefore I am a paying parent. I know both the boys admin and the girls. I have been asked to help by both sides because I am a parent of the club and a poster on the forum. Enough said.
What the hell has the Bull Pen have to do with the club office location. Both are in the same city in the South Bay. In fact I live in the same city.
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Are we sure @lafalafa wasnt joking? I did sense a little sarcasm.
 
LASTMAN14 said:
Dude, I don't even know where to begin and tell you your a complete fool and don't have an idea at all about anything. First of all I have been on this forum since my kids were U8. So 7 years. Which means the old forum. I answer roll call. Please look at the G06 and G05 Roll Call posted by Tech. Who by the way is friend of mine. Please see my National Cup break downs over the years. Please find my part in exposing the Anaheim Surf debacle at 06 State Cup two years ago. I typically do not post on the boys forum because I have girls and my interests lie there. Therefore I am a paying parent. I know both the boys admin and the girls. I have been asked to help by both sides because I am a parent of the club and a poster on the forum. Enough said.
And, what the hell has the Bull Pen have to do with the club office location. Both are in the same city in the South Bay. In fact I live in the same city.
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And speaking of your National Cup break downs........ahem. Can we expect them soon?
 
LASTMAN14 said:
Are you talking about JB Frost or Me? Either way wrong.
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It is not surprising that a neutered LAGSB website and little public information would lead to speculation and rumors. Combine that with a lack of appreciation, and indeed outright suspicion, for individuals who take on the typically thankless job it is to be on the admin/board side of club soccer, and you get conspiracy theories and delusions of fat cat bankers and hedge fund managers who are turning a generally money losing activity into some wealth creation scheme. Just like most sports team ownership activities, these tend to be vanity projects, not profit centers.

Perhaps a link to whoever "Steel United" is might help stop some of the speculation.
 
lafalafa said:
So you've been misrepresent who you really are, pitching all kinds of this about things the girls programs, tryouts, etc yet you just happen to know all these details about the boys program & yet have never posted anything in the boys thread before.

Really now tell us who you really are? Paying parent of a girl in the SB program,. Coach, board member which is it now?

Guess it's no mistake that the SB mailing address is right near the bullpen and your hiding some more BS

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You are crazy and I disagree with your points 100%! So not true.
 
Dos Equis said:
It is not surprising that a neutered LAGSB website and little public information would lead to speculation and rumors. Combine that with a lack of appreciation, and indeed outright suspicion, for individuals who take on the typically thankless job it is to be on the admin/board side of club soccer, and you get conspiracy theories and delusions of fat cat bankers and hedge fund managers who are turning a generally money losing activity into some wealth creation scheme. Just like most sports team ownership activities, these tend to be vanity projects, not profit centers.

Perhaps a link to whoever "Steel United" is might help stop some of the speculation.
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The rumors started swirling before the website was changed. It appears the change to the website occurred when the announcement came out. Sure, being on the board is probably a thankless position, but I have never been on one. JB Frost became club president, well one could say process of elimination over the course of the last few years. And, yes conspiracy theories and delusion from others posting. I do not have a website for Steel United. What I did find are articles about them from the past.
 
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