Ok....so why are non of the best players in the World built like running backs?
LA TIMES: Is youth soccer training to blame for American team failure to make WC?
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Ok....so why are non of the best players in the World built like running backs?
Why? Nothing produces more vanilla players than a uniform curriculum. If it was as simple as a curriculum every country would succeed. If anything that’s the problem with USSDA thousands of kids playing the same mundane way
If he grew up in the United States, Ronaldo would've been put on a weight training program starting in high school and would've been playing wide receiver and linebacker. He would've continued with that weight training program in college and played receiver or safety. He would be lot thicker than he is now with the training regimen.
Messi, if he grew up in the US, would've also been on a weight training program from high school onwards. He would've played tailback in high school, and would've been converted to slot receiver in college(think Cole Beasley from the Cowboys). He'd also be a lot thicker.
Our youth program is the same for both the girls and boys right? Our women's national team is considered the best in the world. Our men's national team is not competing at the highest level because men's soccer does not attract the most talented athletes like most other countries. Isn't that the difference? Imagine LeBron James, Amari Cooper, Russell Westbrook, Stephan Curry, Russel Wilson on the pitch. I suspect there are basketball forums in other countries lamenting about how their national basketball teams don't compare to the US because their youth programs are lacking.
Not true.....he would have been dismissed as too small and not a good enough athlete....probably would have received the same critique for soccer too.
Well tell that France and Germany. They have a uniformed curriculum and it works.
Did Zidane follow that curriculum? Henry when he was playing in the streets? Ozil? Curriculum creates standards, which you can give value to. but if we were given the same “French” or “German” curriculum we would not win the World Cup that’s neither the issue or solution
Huh?
Cole Beasley is 5'7 -5'8, 175 lbs, and the best slot receiver in the NFL. Messi is 5'7, 155 lbs(while never being on a football weight program), fast, and quicker than shit, just like all slot receivers in the NFL.
Ronaldo is 6'2, 185 lbs without a football weight program, and faster than shit. The perfect size for an NFL receiver or safety. Outside linebacker if he bulked up enough.
Have you ever seen how small many high school football players are?
Messi was on growth hormones from the age of 11/12
No to Zidane and Henry. But they changed because they too failed like the US. And now how an entire team of the most talented players in the world who did learn under the curriculum. Ozil is a yes. I did not say use the French or German curriculum, just to have one. Hopefully one that fits.
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Iceland also won the World Championships in handball. 332K against 7.5 billion in the world. Lack of soccer culture is exactly what Mr. Mac is referring to. Identification is not even a subject in countries where soccer is a mainstream sport.
What's that got to do with anything? He is what he is, growth hormones or not. He would've been on growth hormones in the US, as well, to deal with his condition.
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Why would they?
INFAMEE
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It wouldn't matter if you had all those athletes playing soccer. They still wouldn't be able to compete against the little Iniestas, Xavis, Messis etc. from around the world. Size and athleticism is not a factor, the environment is. U.S. just doesn't have it in which to produce such talent.
Mr. Mac
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That's basically the same argument. Thanks. I agree there is no soccer culture here for our boys..hence the best athletes aren't playing because it doesn't interest/excite/motivate/whatever adjective fits. Yes it's over simplifying it, but I have zero interest in expanding on the who, what, when where or why when it's not going to change.
Mr. Mac
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That's basically the same argument. Thanks. I agree there is no soccer culture here for our boys..hence the best athletes aren't playing because it doesn't interest/excite/motivate/whatever adjective fits. Yes it's over simplifying it, but I have zero interest in expanding on the who, what, when where or why when it's not going to change.
Because football and basketball are much better investments from both a scholarship and professional pay scale. Soccer is one of the worst investments for boys. Let's look at the NCAA-I to see how this works:
NCAA-I / Men
Football: 254 teams at 85 scholarships = 21,590 scholarships for 1.08M HS football players or 2% chance. Average NFL pay = $1.9 million.
Basketball: 351 teams at 13 scholarships = 4,563 scholarships for 550k HS basketball players or .08% chance (almost 1%). Average NBA pay = $5.15 million.
Soccer: 205 teams at 9.9 scholarships = 2,029.5 scholarships for 450k HS soccer players or .04% chance (less than 1/2 percent) Average MLS pay = $226k
Realistically, scholarships are only available for the top 5% of athletes, so normalizing the data for just the top 5%, it looks like this:
NFL: 54k players chasing 21k scholarships (40%)
NBA: 27.5k players chasing 4.5k scholarships (16%)
Soccer: 22.5k players chasing 2k scholarships (8%).
Soccer in the US = superbad investment for young athletes that can choose their sport and then once you get to the pinnacle of the profession, expect to be one of the lowest paid professional athletes.